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SCO's MIT Mathematicians Go Poof
Monday, August 25 2003 @ 01:38 PM EDT

Wouldn't you know it? When it rains, it pours. Utah is experiencing flooding rains now too, it seems. What next? A plague of frogs? Seems the MIT mathematicians who allegedly verified the "stolen" lines of code aren't at MIT after all, and SCO is backpedalling, which is causing great puzzlement among some analysts and reporters, according to this story in The Tech:

"The company has so far declined to disclose most of these examples publicly. But it has said that three teams of experts have confirmed its assertions -- including one team of mathematicians from MIT.

" 'They said they hired three separate independent teams of experts to analyze their code, including one from MIT, and that the findings appear to corroborate the fact that the code had been taken from Unix and put into Linux,' said Laura DiDio, a senior analyst at The Yankee Group in Boston.

"'It was kind of weird, because they told me they had hired a team at MIT,' said Robert McMillan, a correspondent for the IDG News Service. 'And then they kind of backpedaled.'

". . . 'Chris Sontag told me that [they] had a group of mathemeticians "who were at MIT" working on this,' McMillan wrote in an e-mail after checking his notes. 'In subsequent interviews SCO said that these guys had been at MIT and were no longer there.'

"Paul Hatch, a SCO spokesman, wrote in a statement to The Tech , 'To clarify, the individuals reviewing the code had been involved with MIT labs in the past, but are not currently at MIT. Unfortunately, due to contractual obligations, we cannot specifically name the individuals.' "


Man, those pesky contracts SCO keeps signing that force them not to disclose anything. Maybe they need a new lawyer, who can explain to them that a contract means both sides get to set the terms.

Looks like Ms. DiDio may have cut her vacation off early and is finding this difficult to parse. How about analysts and reporters learn a big lesson from all this: that their job isn't to simply repeat what they are told without investigating and evaluating and asking the other side to comment on a story, so as to get some meat on the story's bones? A lot of them got snookered big time, and their excuse is, "they said"? Clippy tip to Ms. DiDio: It looks like you are trying to decide where to file this. Shall I put it in the "But He Promised He'd Love Me Forever" folder for you?


  


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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 11:12 AM EDT
SCO confirms that they have been indeed DDoS'ed and -- surprise, surprise -- they say suspect the Open Source community to be behind this attack.

http://biz.yahoo.com/d jus/030825/1353000763_1.html


AG

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 11:13 AM EDT
Does anyone can post an image link of Ms Didio? I am getting curious now about her
Pete Dawson

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 11:15 AM EDT
Just in:

http://biz.yahoo.com/d jus/030825/1353000763_1.html

SCO Group's Web Site Target Of Hacker Attack, Again>SCOX Monday August 25, 1:53 pm ET By Marcelo Prince, Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES


Rand

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 11:16 AM EDT
Also, SCO ftp is back up
Rand

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 11:24 AM EDT
www.sco.com is backup .. link
andre

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 11:24 AM EDT
Pete, beware what you ask for, you just might get it.
Supa

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 11:28 AM EDT
huuuiii.. what am i reading on sco.com...

have a look at this page, it's a _product_ of SCO: http://www.sco.com/products/lkp/ ehm, how new/old is this page??

what i wanna quote: "SCO understands that customers are looking for alternatives to Linux. But making changes always introduces risk. LKP is an easy and low risk tool to help the migration from Linux to UnixWare." and "Since UnixWare is much more powerful, scalable and secure than Linux, customers may replace multiple Linux servers with a single, more powerful UnixWare server."

are they crazy? or is it just too hot in utah? =)


andre

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 11:28 AM EDT
She's 'senior' alright :)
Pete Dawson

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 11:38 AM EDT
MMM...there is a photo of Ms. DiDio here- http ://windowsdecisions.techtarget.com/html/schedule_at_a_glance.htm. Look at her bio.
wild bill

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 12:09 PM EDT
Remember there were three teams ?
Remember the rocket scientist remark ?
After discovering NASA was running Linux, Darl McBride declared "we own NASA
and all it's intellectual property including all NASA scientists".
That's REALLY where the analysis originated.
gumout

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 12:12 PM EDT
wild bill,
It appears Ms.Didio is not only supremely intelligent and a superb analyst, but
also a world class beauty ...
gumout

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 12:13 PM EDT
She has no experience covering either UNIX or Linux, and I wouldn't refer to her
exercise in self-mutilation over the last few months as "getting experience".
She is apparently trying to get in CYA mode these days.
blacklight

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 12:20 PM EDT
gumout wrote:

"wild bill, It appears Ms.Didio is not only supremely intelligent and a superb analyst, but also a world class beauty ... "

That's what I thought (the beauty part- not the intelligence part) until I saw the photo that Supa posted. Who is the REAL Ms. DiDio?


wild bill

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 12:36 PM EDT
To be perfectly fair, the photo Supa linked to was lit atrociously. It's obvious that the photographer was incompetent, using lighting from below her face (the kind of lighting classic photographic texts refer to as "horror lighting"). Yes, indeed, this photograph is hideous; I think, though, that a large part of it is just the lighting. The photo that wild bill links to is somewhat more flattering. Like gumout, I wonder "who is the REAL Ms. DiDio?"

Now, as to being a "superb analyst", I'd certainly question that!


Steve Martin

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 12:41 PM EDT
John, I just heard from another reader who also called SCO and was also told
the same thing you were told. The Dow Jones report is based on email Raymond
sent to the press. Maybe it created an opportunity for more FUD, maybe it
actually happened, who knows yet? But what you reported is confirmed by a
second witness.
pj

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 12:45 PM EDT
Looks like we're entering the "smoke and mirrors zone" in regards to both SCO
and the appearance of Ms. DiDio. Cameras can lie, and I for one want to know
who the real Laura DiDio is- the one I would ask out for a drink (and neglect to
discuss Linux with), or "franken-DiDio?" Anyone have any photos of her where
the camera isn't lying?
wild bill

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 01:00 PM EDT
Perhaps it's more "Portrait of DiDio-an Grey"
Go ahead Laura - recommend buying Scumware licenses, gain another chin. style="height: 2px; width: 20%; margin-left: 0px; margin-right:
auto;">Lightening

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 01:01 PM EDT
I also just spoke with Qwest. InterNap had said yesterday they thought the
packets were going through InterNap fine, but blocking on Qwest. But Qwest says
definitely not them. They had absolutely no anomolies/attacks/shutdowns or
anything over the weekend.
pj

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 01:14 PM EDT
> Anyone have any photos of her where the camera isn't lying?

I can't swear for the accuracy of this one, but it's the best I could find.


Bob

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 01:19 PM EDT
Heheh...Ms. Didio is a real hottie!
PhilTR

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 02:05 PM EDT
"I can't swear for the accuracy of this one, but it's the best I could find."

AAAAUUUGGGHHHHHH!!!


Steve Martin

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 02:07 PM EDT
It;s getting so you cannot believe anything you read on the inernet. ESR and Marcelo Prince say it was a DDOS attack. SCO people say that the servers were taken down for upgrades. Blake Stowell says it was a DDOS attack. Who was it that said that you should believe fifty percent of what you see and nothing of what you just hear.

Glenn


Glenn Thigpen

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 02:37 PM EDT
Let me say that the ugliness or prettiness of the following people is totally irrelevant to the accuracy of their statements and as far as I can tell to the entire SCO/Linux (what word? fiasco? drama? racket?)

Laura DiDio,
Darl McBride,
Linus Torvalds,
ESR,
Bruce Perens,
That Stowell guy and the Sontag guy,
The people who run Heise magazine in Germany,
The Heise guy who thinks he can make up copyright law in favor of SCO as he goes along,
Our incredible tireless host here at Groklaw,
and all of the posters in the Groklaw comments


r.a.

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 03:25 PM EDT
Here is one of the original quotes about MIT

http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government /legalissues/story/0,10801,81973,00.html

SCO was able to uncover the alleged violations by hiring three teams of experts, including a group from the MIT math department, to analyze the Linux and Unix source code for similarities. "All three found several instances where our Unix source code had been found in Linux," said a SCO spokesman.


quatermass - SCO delenda est

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 04:14 PM EDT
Here is a larger color version of the other Laura DiDio pic

Supa

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 04:32 PM EDT
Supa:

Definite improvement in lighting. (Now, if we could just shed the light of intelligence into the rest of these issues...)

BTW, one has to wonder how a BA in communications and twelve years as a reporter covering Windows qualifies one to serve as an IT industry "analyst" commenting on Unix issues...


Steve Martin

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 04:33 PM EDT
Yes, let us not stoop to the level of picking on people based on their looks.
Around here we should focus on words and actions in the tech and legal fields,
not genetic results. Ms. DiDio's looks are irrelevant, and it's kinda unfair to
pick on her based on them. Her words, however, are fair game and very, very
pick-worthy.
Nick

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 04:49 PM EDT
I'm with Nick.

Another old article, just found: http://cgi.ci tizen-times.com/cgi-bin/story/technology/38764


quatermass - SCO delenda est

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 05:22 PM EDT
It is a much better picture. Just figured I should post it to help mitigate the damage her photographer did to her in the other image I linked to.

As for her words... her windows background shows. Most business pundits never stray far from the proprietary software camps so don't get what OSS is all about. It is really not a surprise to me she didn't either. If you want a good outside commentary on OSS you are probably better off talking to a charities pundit as they grope what pulling together for the good of the community is all about rather then seeing it as "destroying value".

Milking contract licensing of "IP" for the personal pocket vs altruistic sharing of knowledge and tools for the public good

Fundamentally different ways of looking at the world.


Supa

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 25 2003 @ 07:30 PM EDT
I stay away from women whose shampoo bills are out of this world, and whose
credit card balances are the equivalent of a 100-car freeway pileup. style="height: 2px; width: 20%; margin-left: 0px; margin-right:
auto;">blacklight

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 26 2003 @ 01:50 AM EDT
Children, children.

This is an important case. The role of "industry analysts" is particularly interesting, because apparently they can be quite easily bought, and apparently the mainstream press tends to accept their statements without even a modicum of fact-checking. The commentary to be making is how vulnerable the press, the stock market, and, potentially, the courts are to manipulation by SCO. NOT hairstyle.

PJ and a few others: thanks for doing such in-depth research, and for great analysis.


Raph Levien

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 26 2003 @ 03:41 AM EDT
PhilTR: You did mean "Hot water bottle" when you said "Hottie", did you? ;)

Sorry, it was irresistable. And yes, that is what "hottie" means in Australasian English.


Wesley Parish

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 26 2003 @ 06:06 AM EDT
Looks like the SCO site is down again. On my traceroute, it looks the same as it did over the weekend. Perhaps this time, we'll find out what is really going on.
Bob

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radiocomment
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, August 28 2003 @ 09:01 AM EDT
The better comedy of the world. A SOF "MIT Team" who by contract...nobody can know a single name. A Yankee Group leadered by miss Laura DiDio who everybody know that she is a Operating System Kernel Specialist with a lot of Knowledge about C. Curriculum: http://www.gigaweb.com/brows emktg/0,2973,strComp%25253Dtopics%252526strCategory%25253D%252526strContent%2525 3D238450,00.html Who is the third? http://www.t hesimpsons.com/bios/bios_townspeople_barney.html
Botafumeiro

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