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BusyBox and the GPL Prevail Again - Updated 4Xs |
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Tuesday, August 03 2010 @ 01:58 PM EDT
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I thought you'd want to hear about what's just happened in the Software Freedom Conservancy v. Best Buy, et al case. It's another BusyBox case regarding infringement of the GPL, mostly about high definition televisions with BusyBox in them, and while the case is not finished regarding other defendants, it's certainly set another precedent. One of the defendants was Westinghouse Digital Technologies, LLC, which refused to participate in discovery. It had applied for a kind of bankruptcy equivalent in California. Judge Shira Scheindlin of the Southern District of New York has now granted Software Freedom Conservancy triple damages ($90,000) for willful copyright infringement, lawyer's fees and costs ($47,685), an injunction against Westinghouse, and an order requiring Westinghouse to turn over all infringing equipment in its possession to the plaintiffs, to be donated to charity. So, presumably a lot of high-def TVs are on their way to charities. Of course, to collect the money, the plaintiffs must apply to bankruptcy court as a creditor, and you know from watching the SCO case what can happen to creditors in a bankruptcy case, but if you are one of the other defendants, one thing you know for sure now: the GPL has teeth, it is enforceable in a court of law, and if you violate it, it can cost you. Remember when you are choosing a license, you want one that you know is enforceable in court.
Here's the order on attorneys' fees and the memorandum and opinion from the docket:
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Filed & Entered: 07/27/2010
Memorandum & Opinion
Docket Text: OPINION AND ORDER granting # 99231 re: [112] MOTION for Default Judgment as to Westinghouse Digital Electronics, LLC. MOTION for Summary Judgment against Westinghouse Digital Electronics, LLC, filed by Erik Andersen, Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc., [127] MOTION for Kyle Bradford Fleming; Sarah Bawany Yousuf to Withdraw as Attorney, filed by Westinghouse Digital Electronics, LLC. Plaintiffs' motion for a default judgment against Westinghouse is granted. Accordingly, the Court need not address Plaintiffs' motion for summary judgment. Plaintiffs are directed to submit a fee application by 8/6/10. The Clerk of Court is directed to close the motion to withdraw Renner, Otto, Boisselle & Sklar and Kane Kessler as counsel for Westinghouse (Docket no. 127). (Signed by Judge Shira A. Scheindlin on 7/27/10) (cd) Modified on 7/29/2010 (ajc).
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Filed & Entered: 08/02/2010
Order
Docket Text: ORDER: On July 27, 2010, attorneys for Plaintiffs wrote a letter to the Court requesting $47,010 in attorneys' fees and $675 in other costs*. Because I find that these fees and costs are reasonable in light of the attorneys' technical expertise in the field, Westinghouse is ordered to pay Plaintiffs a total of$47,685. * - (Plaintiffs calculated their costs and attorneys' fees as follows. Lead counsel Daniel Ravicher worked 54.2 hours in connection with Plaintiffs' motion for a default judgment at a rate of $550 per hour. Associate counsels Aaron Williamson and Michael Spiegel worked one hour and forty-two hours, respectively, at a rate of four hundred dollars per hour. All three attorneys have legal and technical expertise in the area of software-related copyright law. The additional $675 was for experts' fees.) (Signed by Judge Shira A. Scheindlin on 8/2/10) (db)
Lawyers have already taken notice of this development. Fish and Richardson have an article up about the case, which they title "Free software comes at a price: violation of open source license leads to enhanced monetary damages and forfeiture of products in Software Freedom Conservancy v. Best Buy et al".. You have to register to read it, but a lot of lawyers will do that. [Update: A reader found it here, and here's the most relevant part:Of particular note is the remedy the judge imposed. First, Judge Scheindlin found Westinghouse’s infringement to be willful and therefore awarded treble statutory damages of $90,000. The court also entered a permanent injunction prohibiting distribution of HDTV products with the BusyBox software and further ordered all infringing HDTVs to be forfeited to the plaintiff. Finally, the court invited the plaintiff to submit an application for reimbursement of its attorneys’ fees.
This case is significant in view of the enhanced monetary damages award, injunctive relief, and potential attorneys’ fees award imposed against the defendant for software that is otherwise available at no cost, and the case demonstrates the significant consequences that can result when terms of open source software licenses are ignored, whether intentionally or not. So Eben Moglen and Dan Ravicher strike again. The GPL is enforceable. We've known that for a long time. I've been writing that since Groklaw began in 2003. But think of all the mainstream lawyers, not to mention all the trolls and anti-GPL netkooks, who opined endlessly about the GPL and how they thought it might not be upheld if it ever was challenged in court. Remember SCO's hilarious attempt to claim the GPL was unConstitutional? Well, they were, once again, wrong on the facts and the law.
Here's a recent interview with Moglen, Who You Gonna Call? Q&A With Software Freedom Law Center's Eben Moglen, in which he explains how the Software Freedom Law Center works and talks a bit about the Best Buy case. And remember, if you are a FOSS project, you can get advice or legal help: LIN: Can you offer an example from a recent enforcement effort?
Moglen: Sometimes our clients need us to help them enforce their licenses. And sometimes the process of enforcing licenses requires lawsuits. One client of ours is BusyBox, which is a small suite of code that creates a positive environment on top of an operating system kernel which is very useful when embedded inside the stack or inside appliance devices.
The BusyBox project asked us to provide license enforcement for them. Their license is the GPL, so we do attempt to contact companies around the world that manufacture devices using BusyBox to honor the GPL. Sometimes companies are unresponsive to our inquiries. They don't answer our letters or phone calls. And only under those circumstances we sometimes sue people.
LIN: Can you gives us some of the particulars involving the GPL license case?
Moglen: Back in December we sued Samsung, Panasonic, Best Buy (NYSE: BBY) and a number of other manufactures and distributors of electronics because those manufacturers were embedding BusyBox and not obeying the GPL. Most of that involved televisions. Most cases were consolidated and presented in the U.S. District Court for the southern district of New York and are working their way through pretrial motions. I expect all of those cases to settle on various standards over the next few months.
They mostly are not litigating, though. Enforcement usually isn't required. It's much better to avoid litigation if you can, and one way is to set up your project appropriately in the first place, and they do a lot of that, helping projects to become non-profits. Sometimes what you need is just advice, for example if you feel threatened by a situation, and they do that too. And that's all confidential, unlike litigation, so if you need help, you can email help@softwarefreedom.org and see if they can take you on as a client. It's generally free: LIN: Is your organization's case load strictly pro bono, or is there a fee structure used depending on the case and company involved?
Moglen: We are essentially a pro bono entity. With almost no exceptions, we do not charge the people for whom we provide the services. We do have a small subsidiary which is a commercial law firm of Moglen and Ravicher that performs services to for-profit clients. And 100 percent of that profit is donated back to our non-profit organization. So we have a very small commercial profit, almost insignificant. The majority of our work is paid for by our donors. (Daniel B. Ravicher is the Law Center's legal director.) They have lawyers on staff in the US and India, and the hope is that they'll expand to other countries in the future.
Update: Here's another law firm, Hawley, Troxell Ennis & Hawley, an Idaho firm, informing its clients and the world in this 2009 paper published in the Idaho Law Review and authored by the head of the firm's Intellectual Property Practice Group, Brad Frazier, that GPL'd and other FOSS-licensed software is not public domain, in an article titled Open Source is Not Public Domain: Evolving License Philosophies [PDF]: Such suits evidence that "open" source does not mean "in the public domain" and support the premise that open source is a licensing philosophy as opposed to an abandonment of any rights.... Gartner Group recently reported that eighty-five percent of companies are now using open source in some fashion. If the trend continues, businesses will be well advised to be familiar with the license terms that accompany proffered open source software, abide scrupulously by those terms, and not be lulled into accepting the conventional wisdom that open source software falls outside the realm of copyright law, which, as explained above, is certainly not the case Words to live by. Words to live by. Keep in mind that Linux is embedded in a lot of products too. And Linux is also under the GPL. Here's Sony's page where you can download the code used in their televisions, for example. If you pick the top one on the list, Bravia Internet Video, Sony tells you clearly that you are entitled to the code from their Open Source Code Depository: "In compliance with the GNU General Public License and GNU Lesser General Public License Agreements the following source code is made available below." Isn't that better than getting sued?
Why is Linux in TVs you ask? A Groklaw member explains in
a comment, with a long list of all the products that also embed Linux, but here's the why of it with regard to televisions: Why Linux in a television set?
Remember: if it has a screen, if it has an on screen menu, if it has an ethernet jack, WiFi, SD card support for multiple filesystems, if it has a web based interface or control panel, if it has USB, etc., then it probably already has Linux inside, and has had for years.
Also, one refinement. In the alternative to bankruptcy that California allows, things work differently than in bankruptcy court. The assets are turned over to creditors, for one thing, directly, and footnote 25 in the Opinion and Order states that unlike in federal bankruptcy law, which mandates an automatic stay of all litigation, there is no such provision in California state law. So a default judgment can be entered against Westinghouse and the plaintiffs here can file a claim for a share of the assets as creditors. The plaintiffs therefore have a better chance of getting something from Westinghouse than in traditional bankruptcy.
Update 2: Here's a letter [PDF] from Westinghouse's lawyers to the judge, explaining the bankruptcy equivalent issues, what happened to the company, and why the lawyers were no longer representing the company.
Update 3: I originally wrote that the Software Freedom Conservancy was a wing of the Software Freedom Law Center, but when I checked the organizational forms submitted to the government, federal and state, that nonprofits have to file annually, I see that instead it's an independent non-profit organization.
Update 4: SFC has now filed a motion for joinder, to bring in Credit Manager Association and Westinghouse Digital as successors in interest:
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Filed & Entered: 08/09/2010
Motion for Joinder
Docket Text: MOTION for Joinder. Document filed by Erik Andersen, Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc..(Ravicher, Daniel)
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Filed & Entered: 08/09/2010
Memorandum of Law in Support of Motion
Docket Text: MEMORANDUM OF LAW in Support re: [133] MOTION for Joinder.. Document filed by Erik Andersen, Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc.. (Ravicher, Daniel)
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Filed & Entered: 08/09/2010
Declaration in Support of Motion
Docket Text: DECLARATION of Daniel B. Ravicher in Support re: [133] MOTION for Joinder.. Document filed by Erik Andersen, Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc.. (Attachments: # (1) Exhibit 1, # (2)Exhibit 2, # (3) Exhibit 3)(Ravicher, Daniel)
I gather SFC thinks this "bankruptcy" was rather fishy and that the new entity, after moving through CMA, is actually the same as the original entity and remaining in business, just under a new name. From the Memorandum of Law in Support:The precise final disposition of the assets of Predecessor Westinghouse Digital Electronics as between itself, CMA, and Successor Westinghouse Digital is not entirely evident from the notice of General Assignment given by CMA. D. Ravicher ¶ 2, Exhibit 1. However, it seems clear that the business of Predecessor Westinghouse Digital Electronics passed through CMA and is now being continued by Successor Westinghouse Digital.
One fact supporting the conclusion that Successor Westinghouse Digital is continuing the business of Predecessor Westinghouse Digital Electronics is that the successor company, which is named “Golden Star Electronics, LLC”, is now known as “Westinghouse Digital, LLC”, which is almost exactly the same as the name of the previous entity, “Westinghouse Digital Electronics, LLC.” D. Ravicher¶ 2,, Exhibit 1. The only difference between the name used by the predecessor corporation and the name used by the successor corporation is that the latter is no longer using the word “Electronics” at the end. Using the same name manifests a desire to maintain the goodwill and reputation associated therewith. This is only beneficial if the successor wishes to continue the same or similar business as the predecessor, else there would be no reason to want to continue to use the same name.
A second fact supporting the conclusion that Successor Westinghouse Digital is continuing the business of Predecessor Westinghouse Digital Electronics is that Successor Westinghouse Digital is using the same exact business address that was used by Predecessor Westinghouse Digital Electronics. The address registered by Successor Westinghouse Digital with the California Secretary of State on March 23, 2010, is 500 N. State College Blvd, Ste 1300,
Orange, CA 92868. D. Ravicher ¶ 3, Exhibit 2. This is precisely the same address used by Predecessor Westinghouse Digital Electronics. D. Ravicher ¶ 4, Exhibit 3 (American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) IP Address WHOIS Information showing Predecessor Westinghouse Digital Electronics registered its address on January 22, 2010, with ARIN as 500 N. State College Blvd, Ste 1300, Orange, CA 92868).
A third fact supporting the conclusion that Successor Westinghouse Digital is continuing the business of Predecessor Westinghouse Digital Electronics is that on August 6, 2010, counsel for Plaintiffs received a telephone call from an attorney named Arthur Moore, who represented himself as being an inhouse attorney for Successor Westinghouse Digital. D. Ravicher ¶ 5. Previously, in September and October 200, the same Arthur Moore had corresponded with plaintiffs' counsel in his capacity as inhouse counsel for Predecessor Westinghouse Digital Electronics. Id. Thus, Successor Westinghouse Digital appears to be employing at least some of the same employees as Predecessor Westinghouse Digital Electronics.
Thus, it seems undeniable that the new Successor Westinghouse Digital intends to, and in fact is, continuing the business previously conducted by Predecessor Westinghouse Digital Electronics, because it is using virtually the same name, the exact same address, and at least some of the same employees. As such, the court may join Successor Westinghouse Digital as a successor in interest because it is “simply a continuation of the seller.” LiButti, 178 F.3d at 124. Further, since the “business” of Predecessor Westinghouse Digital Electronics flowed through CMA for at least some period of time during April 2010 (it did not flow directly from Predecessor Westinghouse Digital Electronics to Successor Westinghouse Digital), then CMA
may also be joined as a successor in interest in this action. What some folks won't do, if this is accurate, to avoid obligations under the GPL.
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That's great news! [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 03 2010 @ 02:21 PM EDT |
Giving their article the title "Free software comes at a price" is a
deliberate attempt to portray FOSS developers and supporters as liars. Do these
people work for MicroSCOft?
It's Microsoft and their ilk who give away "free" software at a huge
price. Remember the "free" trials of Office that saved documents in
the most recent formats, which then couldn't be opened once the "free"
trial period ended? Even pre-existing documents, in older formats, got
converted, and then made inaccessible once the Office expiration date hit. The
only way to get those files back, was to shell out big $$$ for a registered
version of Office. The "free" trial carried a huge cost.
So now, who's the liar?
As has been said time and time again, all over the web, and even in these
comments, "Free Software" is about freedom, not price. That is clearly
documented in the GPL, and ignorance of its terms is no excuse. But the paid
anti-FOSS shills will do everything they can to conflate the two meanings of
"free".[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: mexaly on Tuesday, August 03 2010 @ 02:56 PM EDT |
Sounds like a market for copyleft licenses. Maybe it's time for a GPL Jingle?
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 03 2010 @ 03:21 PM EDT |
for those people who claim that GPLv2 is flawed and must be replaced by GPLv3,
note that Busybox is GPLv2 only and is doing quite well in enforcing the
license.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: DannyB on Tuesday, August 03 2010 @ 04:05 PM EDT |
Try this experiment. Indulge me.
- Follow
this link to Sony's Open
Source Code Distribution Service.
- Click on Television.
<
li>Stop and catch breath. Wow, that's a lot of television models that have
Linux since 2003. And that's just Sony brand televisions.
- Pick a television
model. For instance, let's pick the model KDL-37M400
0. Click it.
That takes you to where you can download the Linux source code
for that model of television set.
Why Linux in a television set?
Remember: if it has a screen, if it has an on screen menu, if it has an
ethernet jack, WiFi, SD card support for multiple filesystems, if it has a web
based interface or control panel, if it has USB, etc., then it probably already
has Linux inside, and has had for years.
But now, Sony TV's will soon
be running Android.
Maybe Samsung TV's also.
Maybe others too (1,
2,
3,
4
).
But Linux is in everything else.
- Set top boxes
- TiVo
- Moxy (used by many local cable company DVR's)
- Roku
- Commercial devices running open source Boxee
- Phones
- Android (currently 65 phones
made by 18 manufacturers)
- Palm's WebOS
- LiMo
- Moto MAGX
- MeeGo
- Maemo (Nokia)
- Moblin
- Personal Media Players (some of them even
run Android, not just "linux")
- eBook readers
- Amazon
Kindle runs Linux
- Barnes & Noble's Nook runs Android (which is
Linux)
- GPS Navigation Units (eg, Tom Tom, Garmin, etc
all run Linux)
- Television Sets
- DVD players (can you say "on
screen menu")
- VCR's (can you say "on screen menu")
- Digital
cameras (can you say "on screen menu")
- Digital Photo Frames (can you
say SD card support, Internet, WiFi, BlueTooth, etc)
- Almost all of the
top-500 list of biggest supercomputers
- Linux has breathed new life into
the Mainframe market (just ask IBM) to consolidate modern
workloads
- Internet tablets (A whole bunch of Android powered tablets
coming in 2nd half 2010 to threaten the
iPad)
- Netbooks
- Smartbooks (eg, non x86
processors)
- Home office routers and WiFi routers
- Linksys (Cisco) a list of models so long it would make your head spin
- D-Link
- Netgear
- Asus
- dozens (yes
dozens) of other brands (check the DD-WRT website)
- Almost anything with an "embedded" web server
- example: printers with a web-based setup interface. (Just what do you think
is running that web server inside that printer or fax machine?)
Long story short: Linux is quickly appearing in
everything all around us.--- The price of freedom is eternal litigation. [ Reply to This | # ]
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- A contrast -- look at Sony - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 03 2010 @ 04:09 PM EDT
- A contrast -- look at Sony - Authored by: PJ on Tuesday, August 03 2010 @ 04:46 PM EDT
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- VCRs? - Authored by: odysseus on Tuesday, August 03 2010 @ 07:50 PM EDT
- VCRs? - Authored by: tiger99 on Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 02:20 PM EDT
- Netbooks - Authored by: DaveJakeman on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 05:48 AM EDT
- My dad's Panasonic TV has the GPL in the setup menu - Authored by: TAZ6416 on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 02:57 PM EDT
- A contrast -- look at Sony - Authored by: hairbear on Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 09:03 AM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 03 2010 @ 04:49 PM EDT |
The Westinghouse Digital Electronics, LLC decision was a DEFAULT JUDGMENT for
non-compliance with discovery orders.
The defendant was dissolved as a corporation and no longer existed. The court
never reviewed a single sentence of the GPL license. The plaintiff's pleadings
in a default judgment are simply ASSUMED to be true for the purpose of rendering
a default judgment.
This decision carries no legal precedent whatsoever other than the message that
you're a loser if you choose to ignore a lawsuit.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 03 2010 @ 07:56 PM EDT |
Ouch. $90k statutory damages for an infringement that cost $0 actual
damages.
Maybe Westinghouse needs to hire Charles Nesson and see if he's fixed
the bugs
in his Constitutional argument against statutory damages. ;-) [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: qubit on Tuesday, August 03 2010 @ 08:43 PM EDT |
Fish and Richardson have an article up about the case...You have to
register to read it...
I took the 30 seconds to register (and
it turns out I didn't even need Mailinator), and I believe that the exact same
content is available without registration on the Fish/Richardson website here:
http://www.fr.com/free-software/
(It's possible that that's just a short blurb -- it does seem a little short
for an analysis to me -- but that's all I can find behind the registration wall) [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 03 2010 @ 09:34 PM EDT |
So how many forfeited HDTVs did BusyBox end up with?
And will the surplus sale cover their costs?[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 02:36 AM EDT |
And that's all confidential, unlike litigation, so if you need help, you
can email help@softwarefreedom.org and see if they can take you on as a client.
It's generally free
My first thought was that it was thoughtless of
PJ to publish that email address on a website. We all know (or we ought to know)
that spammers use bots that crawl the web looking for the text pattern
xxx@xxx.xxx, which they then harvest for their mailing lists.
But the
Software Freedom Law Center itself publishes that address, as harvestable text,
on their own website. That will get them hundreds of spam emails every day, and
the rate will increase with time.
If you really need to contact them ...
good luck on your message not getting lost in the flood of spam. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Ian Al on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 03:15 AM EDT |
I have been smugly aware of several Linux devices in my home. I just did a
little recap, and I realise I have missed quite a few.
I have two hi-fi receivers which take a little while to boot up. Then there is
the DVD player, the DAB receiver, the flat screen TV and perhaps the two
glass-bottle screens as well. I wonder how those old glass bottle computer
monitors get their OSD.
My universal remote control has a USB port and a touch screen and downloads its
configuration from the internet. The PVR is definitely Linux. My Squeezebox
players must be Linux. There are a clutch of routers. I even wonder about the
4-Port KVM switch with its USB ports and intelligent emulation of keyboards,
mice and screens.
What about my expensive, networked, colour laser printer? Oh goodness, then
there is my guitar amp that connects to the computer for configuration and
emulates other amps, cabinets and effect pedals. Then there are my Firewire
connected microphone and line interfaces. I bet some of that outboard sound rack
stuff has penguins inside.
I don't think the refrigerator has one. The cooker and the microwave definitely
don't have one. I would be a much better cook if they did. Don't penguins eat
only raw fish?
Oh, almost forgot the theatre sound system. Come to think of it, I suspect the
cordless phone system. Oh, and the mp3 players as well.
Tux has brought features, flexibility and control to my toys... essential
life-experience equipment. I still have problems recording TV programs, though.
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Regards
Ian Al
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 05:04 AM EDT |
"Of course, to collect the money, the plaintiffs must apply to bankruptcy
court as a creditor, ..."
Well, according to
http://www.articlealley.com/article_1045510_19.html
"The ABC Option. In many states, another option that may be available to
companies in financial trouble is an assignment for the benefit of creditors (or
"general assignment for the benefit of creditors" as it is sometimes
called). The ABC is an insolvency proceeding governed by state law rather than
federal bankruptcy law."
http://wineindustryinsight.com/?p=7735
"In California, an assignment agreement does not require a court
filing."
http://bankruptcy.cooley.com/2008/03/articles/the-financially-troubled-compa/ass
ignments-for-the-benefit-of-creditors-simple-as-abc/
"In California, making an ABC does not require a public court filing. Some
other states, however, do require a court filing to initiate or complete an
ABC."
http://www.yourbankruptcylawyer.com/Bankruptcy-Alternatives/Assignment-for-the-B
enefit-of-Creditors.shtml
"Assignment for the Benefit of Creditors in Southern California
...
What is Assignment for the Benefit of Creditors?
Assignment for the benefit of creditors is basically a quick, efficient out of
court proceeding ... no court involvement"
Hmmm.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 08:25 AM EDT |
Client Alert: Free Software Comes at a Price
July 29, 2010
This
case is significant in view of the enhanced monetary
damages award, injunctive
relief, and potential attorneys’
fees award imposed against the defendant for
software that
is otherwise available at no cost, and the case demonstrates
the
significant consequences that can result when terms of
open source software
licenses are ignored, whether
intentionally or not.
lexology.com
link, registration required ..[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 09:00 AM EDT |
Has any one read Judge Scheindlin's default ruling?
This is a default ruling for violation of FRCP 37 discovery orders. It has
*nothing* to do with the merits of the case. Here's Judge Scheindlin:
"Because Defendant Westinghouse has defaulted, this court, 'is required to
accept all of the [Plaintiff's] factual allegations as true and draw all
reasonable inferences in its favor,' except those related to damages." Au
Bon Pain Corp. v. Artect, Inc., 653 F.2d 61, 65 (2d Cir.1981).
How does this demonstrate the "the GPL has teeth, it is enforceable in a
court of law, and if you violate it, it can cost you".
The plaintiff's could have pleaded that the moon was made of green cheese and
the court for purposes of default judgment would have been *required to accept
it as true.
So why spin this as proof the GPL is enforceable?
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- The omens - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 09:41 AM EDT
- Why the spin? - Authored by: Alan(UK) on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 10:01 AM EDT
- I mostly agree, but it's not quite as you say - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 10:05 AM EDT
- Let's Think This Through - Authored by: sproggit on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 01:08 PM EDT
- Let's Think This Through - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 02:23 PM EDT
- I think - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 03:53 PM EDT
- "draw all reasonable inferences in its favor" - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 02:16 PM EDT
- Defendant Westinghouse turned and ran... - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 06:04 PM EDT
- What the lawyers told the court. - Authored by: Ian Al on Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 03:44 AM EDT
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Authored by: OmniGeek on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 11:46 AM EDT |
The surprising thing here is that the company in question didn't just do the
simple, low-cost thing, and release the code that the GPL required them to
release, thus bring them into compliance, end of problem, go on making TVs and
earning money.
Instead, they've been well and truly hammered. It makes no sense.
If they feared a competitive disadvantage relative to other vendors of HD TVs
with similar features, they might have considered that anyone else who used the
code would ALSO be required to release it (or suffer a similar fate). No
disadvantage from GPL compliance there, just a level playing field.
As far as I can see, the rational conclusion to draw from this case is not that
using GPL'ed software will cost you big, but rather that using GPL'ed software
can be convenient and cost-effective IF you pay attention and follow the simple
instructions printed right there on the label. If you can't follow the license,
just don't use the code.
One would think their corporate counsel would have been able to help them reach
that rather simple conclusion. An experienced, diligent corporate counsel would
doubtless read up on the litigation history of the GPL and conclude that it is
to be taken as seriously as any other software license. One would definitely
assume that any responsible attorney would advise against stonewalling discovery
as a lawsuit defendant.
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My strength is as the strength of ten men, for I am wired to the eyeballs on
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Authored by: philc on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 11:57 AM EDT |
Busybox is now viewed as a liability at two companies that I am familiar with.
These companies are going to drop busybox in all their products. This is simple
risk management.
busybox is a useful part of the root file system but it is not critical. Busybox
packages up a collection of common utilities into a single executable which
saves space. The technique has been used before (actually I used the technique
for different utilities on AT&T 5.3 Unix back in the late 80's). It is
rather simple and easy to do. The desired utilities are available with BSD
licenses.
It is a lot less expensive and much lower risk to build a replacement than it is
to deal with the the busybox lawyers. You can develop a lot of software for what
this is costing Westinghouse.
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- On the other side - Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 12:20 PM EDT
- On the other side - flipped - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 12:27 PM EDT
- Wrong risk - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 12:51 PM EDT
- Get back under your bridge, troll - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 12:52 PM EDT
- On the other side - Authored by: proceng on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 12:57 PM EDT
- Correction - Authored by: proceng on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 01:02 PM EDT
- Agreed - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 03:21 PM EDT
- On the other side - Authored by: PJ on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 01:25 PM EDT
- On the other side - Authored by: jjs on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 02:28 PM EDT
- On the other side - Authored by: jonathon on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 03:59 PM EDT
- On the other side - Authored by: cybervegan on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 06:51 PM EDT
- Busybox IS a liability, to people who ignore license documents - Authored by: Jim Olsen on Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 02:14 PM EDT
- On the other side - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 09 2010 @ 08:36 AM EDT
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Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 12:59 PM EDT |
I was wondering why the only retailer named in the suit was Best Buy. I read the
complaint and saw that one of the products named was Best Buy's Insignia brand.
However Best Buy does not manufacture the product, they contract with a
manufacturer to put their brand name on it. Similar to what Westinghouse Digital
does. No doubt both of their contracts with the manufacturer includes language
that the products must be legal.
This leads me to ask whether any retailer can be held responsible for merely
passing through infringing products. They did not make an infringing copy, they
may not have had knowledge of the infringement.
What standard is used to determine if a someone in the middle of the
distribution chain is in violation of copyright?
Who is responsible for providing source code or is everyone in the distribution
chain have that responsibility.
---
Rsteinmetz - IANAL therefore my opinions are illegal.
"I could be wrong now, but I don't think so."
Randy Newman - The Title Theme from Monk
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 04:49 PM EDT |
For what it's worth, I bought a Hisense MP800H media player that's doing the
same thing, if anybody knows how to get in touch with the BusyBox and SFLC
people. The MP800H has a mips-el build of busybox on it, with the copyright
notice removed; i.e., if you run busybox, it doesn't show the authors' copyright
notice, and none of the included documentation showed any GPL notices.
Likewise, it's running Linux without any accompanying GPL notices.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 04:59 PM EDT |
The Best Buy et. al lawsuit is captioned with "SOFTWARE FREEDOM
CONSERVANCY, INC. and ERIK ANDERSEN, Plaintiffs,".
How did "SOFTWARE FREEDOM CONSERVANCY, INC." qualify as a plaintiff in
the Best Buy litigation? They don't own any copyrights. Here is the law of the
Second Circuit:
"The Copyright Act authorizes only two types of claimants to sue
forcopyright infringement: (1) owners of copyrights, and (2) persons who have
been granted exclusive licenses by owners of copyrights.[Note 3]
[Note 3] ... We do not believe that the Copyright Act permits holders of rights
under copyrights to choose third parties to bring suits on their behalf. While
F.R.Civ.P. 17(a) ordinarily permits the real party in interest to ratify a suit
brought by another party, see Urrutia Aviation Enterprises v. B.B. Burson &
Associates, Inc., 406 F.2d 769, 770 (5th Cir.1969); Clarkson Co. Ltd. v.
Rockwell Int'l Corp., 441 F.Supp. 792 (N.D.Calif.1977), the Copyright Law is
quite specific in stating that only the "owner of an exclusive right under
a copyright" may bring suit. 17 U.S.C. Sec. 501(b) (Supp. IV 1980).";
Eden Toys Inc v. Florelee Undergarment Co Inc, 697 F.2d 27 (2nd Cir 1983).
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 05:09 PM EDT |
"Such suits evidence that "open" source does not mean "in
the public domain" and support the premise that open source is a licensing
philosophy as opposed to an abandonment of any rights....".
No no one in their right mind would claim that open source code is legally in
the public domain absent affirmative abandonment.
"It is well settled that rights gained under the Copyright Act may be
abandoned. But abandonment of a right must be manifested by some overt act
indicating an intention to abandon that right. See Hampton v. Paramount Pictures
Corp., 279 F.2d 100, 104 (9th Cir. 1960)."; Micro-Star v. Formgen Inc., 154
F.3d 1107 (9th Cir. 1998).
The quoted law firm has discovered that water is wet!
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 04 2010 @ 09:00 PM EDT |
There was once a day when Westinghouse was an honored name in the electronics
industry.
Now they are in bankruptcy because they failed to post code on a web site.
Someone really messed things up!![ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 06:41 AM EDT |
Westinghouse's ex-law firm is Renner, Otto, Boiselle & Sklar. The acronym
for which is ROBS. Coincidence? I think not!
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This morning they are easy to find using a search engine.
Here's a quick gist:
Did not. Neener, neener.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: cassini2006 on Thursday, August 05 2010 @ 12:15 PM EDT |
I'm confused on something.
If CMA took over the assets of Westinghouse,
they still have to follow the GPL? Don't they?
Can they sell the TVs without
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Authored by: ChicagoIPLawyer on Monday, August 09 2010 @ 11:43 PM EDT |
First, as the so-called "trolls" have noted, the decision
was a default
judgment of no precedential value. I am not
sure why this is such a
controversial position here, but any
litigator will confirm that a default
judgment granted as a
remedy for discovery non-compliance means nothing as a
matter of precedent in an unrelated case. I
really do not think it does any
good to the OSS community to
hype this as a court
enforcing the GPL. Lost
credibility cannot be easily
replaced.
Second, why does SFLC continue to
go after such
piddling amounts of money? Does anyone here really think
that
$150K is going make the
difference to a major corporation? If a company
like
Westinghouse was going to
ignore the GPL and use the code, the risk of a
$150K
judgment is certainly not going to deter them. Think of it
this
way. If you are a V.P. in charge of getting a new
product out of the door, you
might face
the following choice:
Door #1: Buy a commercial
embedded
real time OS (cost: $50K for development licenses plus $10
per unit
royalty). The commercial OS has limited hardware
and developer support, much
less third party code available.
So, although your in-house engineers could
develop drivers
for your custom ASICs, you still have to contract with a
third
party development firm to customize the proprietary OS
for certain components
used in your device(cost: $500K plus
6-9 months
development time). On top
of all that, outside counsel is
predicting at least 3-4 weeks to negotiate all
of the
agreements at a (minimum estimated) cost of $150K. Product
ready
in 9-12 months.
Door #2: Use Linux (free, available now, fully supports
basic hardware). In house developers are able to modify
driver code to
support custom ASICs (internal cost: $75K and
1-2 months). No contracts
to negotiate. Product ready in
2 months. Risk of a $150K judgment, but
only if caught.
Which would you choose? Of course, they also get all
those
TVs and there is the injunction. In real life, the
forfeiture and
injunction would have been the major issue
(no one would fight much over
$90K). However, it is really
hard
to know what a court would do if the
injunction/forfeiture
issue had actually been argued. There was not even a
sentence dealing with the issue of whether the Supreme
Court's eBay
decision makes granting of injunctive
relief (as well as forfeiture, since it
ostensibly also
requires inadequacy of the legal remedy)
inappropriate.
Instead, the court relief on the presumption
of irreparable harm (see p. 8 of
the slip opinion), which is
the very same presumption that the Supreme Court in
the
eBay patent decision eviscerated. While you could
distinguish
eBay (e.g., it was a patent case; it
involved patent trolls not
legitimate open source
developers, etc.), no attempt was made here to even
deal with the issue - and I would argue that distinguishing
eBay will
prove much harder than it might appear when
the issue is actually litigated. I
would have much
preferred if
Westinghouse
has at least put up a little fight
on the remedy issue so
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- Disappointed - Authored by: PJ on Tuesday, August 10 2010 @ 12:19 AM EDT
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http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/media/2010/06/07/08-55998.wma
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/media/2010/06/07/09-15932.wma
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/media/2010/06/07/09-35969.wma
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