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Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 01:54 AM EDT
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Guess who owns the domain unXis.de? If you check betterwhois, you find that Eric le Blan owns the domain unXis.com, but if you go to Germany's equivalent, denic.de, a familiar SCO name appears.
Hans Bayer, the former CEO for The SCO Group GmbH (still listed on SCO's website as a SCO executive, as Vice President Worldwide Sales).
So, is unXis a separate entity, or just SCOfolk, or what's the real deal?
Update: If you read through the comments, you'll find that readers have been checking at various countries' whois records. And folks began buying up this name in at least one case on the same day as the June 15 hearing. At the hearing, SCOfolk testified that the deal had only just been inked, literally a last-minute surprise. Yet the unxis.co.uk domain, according to Nominet, was purchased by Eric le Blan that same day, but when? Remember that the June 15 hearing was scheduled to hear motions to convert SCO to Chapter 7. It was not scheduled to hear arguments about a hearing on a sales plan. Yet the domain name was already being bought that day. And it began at 2 PM Eastern time, Delaware time. Eric Le Blan registered unxis.biz on Tucows, according to BetterWhoIs, on June 15 at 22:27:14 GMT; unxis.org at "15-Jun-2009 22:27:07 UTC" and unxis.info at "15-Jun-2009 22:27:22 UTC".
In Italy, the unxis.it domain was purchased by a SCO regional manager on July 9. And unxis.ch was purchased by a SCO distributor, Jutz Josef, too. Why are SCO partners and employees buying up this domain name?
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| Authored by: kjb on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 02:16 AM EDT |
| And PJ said "Let no stone be unturned."
And SCO buckled under the weight of the
stones PJ overturned.
And God saw it was good.
Awesome, PJ. Just, truly
awesome. ---
keithdotburt at gmail dot com
Copyright info in bio
"No! Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try."
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| Authored by: garbage on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 02:18 AM EDT |
Aha! Nice catch PJ!
I imagined IBM had a reason to want to go digging into this entity.
I cant wait to see the fireworks in court when their lawyers reveal all to the
court[s].
To a person outside the US system its both appalling & incomprehensible to
see how a cashed up litigant can vexatiously prolong court procedures
endlessly as these criminals have in the USA.
Salivating at the chance to read the June 15 stuff now..[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Kelledin on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 02:30 AM EDT |
Ooooops!
My guess is, the bankruptcy judge is going to have someone's butt in a
sling before the unXis sideshow is through playing out. Though I have to
wonder if SCO even expected this latest sham sale agreement to survive
scrutiny? In any event this little detail should spice up IBM's unXis
deposition.
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| Authored by: whoever57 on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 02:34 AM EDT |
| Just opportunism (domain squatting) by Mr Bayer? [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 03:01 AM EDT |
| Or, could it be that Hans Bayer is almost the equivalent of John Smith? [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 03:48 AM EDT |
So SCO are trying to sell bits off to themselves, or at least people faithful to
the cause. If that IS the case, where is the cash injection coming from. The
same folks as last time?[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: tiger99 on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 03:53 AM EDT |
| If any are needed to this short article. [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: tiger99 on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 03:55 AM EDT |
This is the off topic thread. So posts about the ownership of unXis go
elsewhere. Please remember the posting guidelines, make clickies where possible,
and have fun![ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: tiger99 on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 03:57 AM EDT |
Please mention which Groklaw newspick item you are referring to in the title of
your post.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 03:57 AM EDT |
in Harmony, they might think it's a movement (Alice's Restaurant)
unxis.at Hans Bayer 20090624 15:19:17
unxis.it Orlando Zanni 2009-07-09 14:49:55
unxis.co.uk Eric le Blan 15-Jun-2009
sorry that's only three, but you get the picture[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: dio gratia on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 04:57 AM EDT |
If you open the website www.unxis.co.uk you get a copy of an SCO web page. A
check with traceroute shows it's hosted in the UK.
It's a copy of http://www.sco.com/company/legal/overview.html
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| Authored by: Peter Baker on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 08:15 AM EDT |
Apologies, but I don't have a Unix prompt handy right now to
do a "dig" - it may be worth checking NS (nameserver) and MX
(mail exchange) records of such domains as well.
Often the owner hides behind a privacy screen, but tracing
where the domain is hosted, managed and receives email gives
extra data. In addition, geo-locating IP addresses can also
offer extra information.
Regards (sorry, in haste), Peter
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 08:24 AM EDT |
Russia is also interesting:
domain: UNXIS.RU
type: CORPORATE
state: REGISTERED, NOT DELEGATED
org: "Business Console" Ltd.
created: 2009.06.24
Business Console is a SCO premier partner.
See http://b-k.ru/products/sco/
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- Brilliant! - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 09:47 AM EDT
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 09:32 AM EDT |
This one is strange, because the renewal date for the registration is
2010/02/01, so the timing doesn't seem to coincide with SCO's proposed sale. The
site is registered to a Sanjay Pattni in Toronto.
Administrative contact
Name: Sanjay Pattni
Email: sanjay.pattni@rogers.com
Address: UNXIS Inc
198 Tavistock Road
Toronto ON M3M 2P6 Canada
The company has a website that looks hastily put together. On its "about
us" page, http://www.unxis.ca/UNXIS-AboutUS.htm , the company claims to be
an IT consultancy with expertise in UNiX, among other things.
Does anybody see a smoking gun connection between this UnXis.ca and SCO, or is
it a fluke that there is a preexisting Canadian company with this name?
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| Authored by: sk43 on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 01:30 PM EDT |
| He's still with SCO. Started in 1992. Ran Caldera's Erlangen Linux development
center for a bit unless Caldera shut it down and all the developers moved over
to SuSE.
Hans Bayer – Vice President Worldwide Sales
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 02:02 PM EDT |
That is going to make for one interesting IBM deposition. I wondered why they
wanted it ;)
Tufty
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 02:04 PM EDT |
<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sanjay-pattni/1/64/603">
LinkedIn Profile </a> <p>
<blockquote>Sanjay is also the founder of UNXIS, a consulting firm
specialized and focused on helping companies through effective use of people,
processes and technology. UNXIS provides consulting services to Royal Bank of
Canada, Endless communications, Cosette communications, and
Telecompute.<blockquote>[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 03:13 PM EDT |
| I guess I don't see a big conspiracy here.
If the profitable bits of SCO get
sold to unXis (yeah, I know, fat chance), then the overseas bits (most of whom
seem at least moderately profitable) are going to have to change their names to
unXis. So it makes sense that the overseas bits are buying up new domain names
before some cybersquatter takes them. It's not like it's a major
investment.
Of all the conspiracy theories around here, this one seems
pretty weak. [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 04:54 PM EDT |
If I were selling a pile of well worn assets, a bit shabby,
still legal doubts over some previous contracts, I might
like to polish the sale a bit by throwing in a website
registration for the countries the business operates in.
Who better to register those domains than my servants
in the territories.
What the buyer does with the goods is no concern of mine,
but it's amazing what an astute business person can do
with a catchily named website and a wisp of IP.
I don't like giving the other side ideas, but when I last looked
ten hours ago, es, pt, fr, be, nl, dk, se, no, hu were still free.
I was offered some of them for $6.95/month, but in my
day job domain squatter, like SEO, is a wash-your-mouth-out
word.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 05:31 PM EDT |
The GPL give users the freedom to do what they want. It just doesn't give
corporations to do what they want and restrict their users to do what they want
with the code.
I am paying taxes so I need to be able to do what I want with the government
funded coding. Independently if I get it from Microsoft or anybody else.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 11 2009 @ 07:29 PM EDT |
Nada!
Anyone interested in buying a bit of future history?
Tufty
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, July 12 2009 @ 05:52 AM EDT |
June 9th would be, but July 9th was last Thursday. I am not seeing anyone
registering things prior to the announcement. It is fairly clearly a sham
company, but I am unconvinced that the domain registrations by SCO employees
proves much.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, July 12 2009 @ 10:41 AM EDT |
... get any more (insert favorite term here). The only way this could be worse
for SCO would be to find Darl McBride's name on a WHOIS record for unXis.
I'm expecting a jury foreman to stand up any second and say, "We find the
defendant incredibly guilty!", followed by a sentence of "Five years
in Sing-Sing!" and a bunch of singers in black-and-white stripes singing
"Prisoners of Love." Honestly, I sometimes wonder if I'm watching a
Mel Brooks movie in slow-motion, instead of a court case.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, July 12 2009 @ 06:22 PM EDT |
I'll let you decide who Charlie Brown is.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, July 13 2009 @ 07:54 AM EDT |
Perhaps not along the same lines, but "publishing" of photographs you
take of the Eiffel Tower (at night) is subject to French copyright law. Casual
reading suggests that other buildings and structures (Madison Square Garden, the
St. Louis Arch, the TransAmerica building, etc.) also subject photographers to
copyright, with (maybe?) exception for fair use. Another interesting use of
"IP" protection is almost anything dealing with the word
"lympic" with an "o" prefixed to it (and, I believe, many
images that look like five interlocked circles).[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: seanlynch on Tuesday, July 14 2009 @ 11:43 AM EDT |
| Why are SCO partners and employees buying up this domain name?
So they can
sue unXis for infringement in the future! [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: darkonc on Thursday, July 16 2009 @ 01:22 AM EDT |
me@me-laptop:~$ whois unxis.de
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[Admin-C]
Type:
PERSON
Name: Hans Bayer
Address: ((redacted))
Pcode:
((redacted))
City: Bad Homburg v.d.H.
Country:
DE
Changed: 2007-11-22T14:33:28+01:00
So, it looks like
he was the admin contact a year and a half ago for the domain. It would be
interesting to see if SCO owned it before June.
(Emphasis
mine.)
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