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US Trustee Objects to Boies Schiller Conducting SCO's Bankruptcy Case; Wants Role Narrowed; Looking at Fees - Updated 2Xs
Friday, November 02 2007 @ 01:10 PM EDT

Here's a development nothing short of breathtaking to me: the US Trustee in the SCO bankruptcy, Kelly Beaudin Stapleton, by the US Trustee Trial Attorney assigned to this case, Joseph J. McMahon, Jr., has filed an Objection [PDF] to Boies Schiller being used by SCO to conduct its bankruptcy case. He says the firm's role must be limited:
6. Section 327(e) prohibits special counsel from representing the Debtors in conducting their case....Accordingly, BSF's proposed scope of employment ... should be narrowed to refect that the firm will not be addressing bankruptcy issues before this Court or be otherwise involved in conducting these cases."

Here's Bankruptcy Code Section 327. He quotes a statute that says a debtor can, with court approval, retain "for a specified special purpose, other than to represent the trustee in conducting the case, an attorney that has represented the debtor". I'm not 100% clear on this. I gather, from the footnote, that SCO as debtor-in-possession is the equivalent of the trustee for itself at the moment, for at least as long as they don't get one assigned, as they would in Chapter 7. That's a trustee for the estate; the US Trustee is a different role. That role is described as, in part, that of a watchdog, looking out for the public interest. So, as I understand the situation so far, SCO asked for BSF to be "special litigation counsel", and I think the US Trustee is saying that any order needs to specifically narrow and set forth the scope of what BSF is allowed to do. In the bankruptcy, I gather it can't do much.

If BSF's role is narrowed, then their fees logically will be too. No? Am I missing something? Unless BSF planned only a very narrow role, I think that is the logical conclusion. That's fees going forward. How about going backward? Mr. McMahon wants to know if the funds paid to Boies Schiller back in 2004 onward are in the nature of a retainer and hence now part of the SCO bankruptcy estate. That question informs us that it is possible that BSF might have to disgorge some of the money it got from SCO. He wants the amount of money paid to Boies disclosed, and he's looking into the fee-sharing element as to how it "intersects" with Bankruptcy Code provisions. He says Stuart Singer, in his Declaration in support of the motion regarding Boies Schiller's retention, did not disclose Boies Schiller's "connection" as required by the Federal Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure 2014(a) and so the court shouldn't rule on the application until those disclosures are made. He reserves his right to object further after that.

I don't want to be presumptuous in any way, or get the hopes up unduly of those who have been longing for what you feel would be justice, but this feels like the cavalry has finally arrived. Note paragraphs 8 and 9:

8. The Application suggests that BSF is holding monies previously paid to the firm by the Debtors pursuant to paragraphs a, b, and/or c (pages 1-2) of the October 31, 2004 engagement letter (appended as Exhibit A to the Application). The amount of those monies needs to be disclosed, as well as the Debtors'/BSF's position as to whether those funds are retainer funds which are property of the Debtors' estate.

Fees Need to Be Subject to Review Under Standard Employed in 11 U.S.C. § 330(a)

9. The fees payable to BSF (including fees payable to a Litigation Recovery or a Transaction Recovery) need to be subject to review by this Court under the standard set forth in 11 U.S.C. § 330. More specifically, the compensation terms of the October 31, 2004 engagement letter should not be "pre-approved" under the standard identified in 11 U.S.C.§ 328(a).

As I say, don't leap to conclusions. For one thing, the judge is not obligated to agree with the US Trustee, if he thinks he's gotten a point wrong. The US Trustee is reviewing and asking the court to limit BSF participation and not to rule on the motion until he can present the court with the office's position on a number of issues he identifies. I get the feeling this may be in part an outgrowth of the US Trustee's questions at the 341 Hearing about Kevin McBride. So, at the moment, that's where it stands. Nothing beyond that. But doesn't it feel good to know that somebody is finally asking the questions you've been asking?

For those of you planning on attending the November 6, 2007 hearing, please note there is a change of time. It will begin at 10 AM. It will not include the motion regarding the sale of assets. That will have its own special hearing on November 16, beginning at 4 PM.

Update: Now the folks who've been suing Caldera, now SCO forever and a day over the IPO have filed a request for notices. I'm telling you, I'm starting to hear the sound of flapping wings... all the chickens are coming home to roost.

Update 2: A lot of you were asking about the IPO litigation. Here's an article I did back in November of 2003, which will at least provide you with the context and how it all began.

Here are the filings:

181 - Filed & Entered: 11/02/2007
Objection
Docket Text: Objection to the Debtors' Application, Pursuant to 11 U.S.C. secs. 327(e), 328 and 330, for Approval of the Employment of Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP as Special Litigation Counsel to the Debtors Nunc Pro Tunc to the Petition Date (related document(s)[115] ) Filed by United States Trustee (Attachments: # (1) Certificate of Service) (McMahon Jr., Joseph)

182 - Filed & Entered: 11/02/2007
Certificate of No Objection
Docket Text: Certificate of No Objection Regarding Docket No. [143] - Motion to File Under Seal Exhibits to Affidavit of Felix Imendoerffer Pursuant to Bankruptcy Code Section 107(b) and Fed.R.Bankr.P. 9018 (related document(s)[143] ) Filed by SUSE Linux GmbH. (Greecher, Sean)

183 - Filed & Entered: 11/02/2007
Notice of Matters Scheduled for Hearing (B)
Docket Text: Notice of Agenda of Matters Scheduled for Hearing Please Note: Hearing Time Has Been Changed to 10:00 a.m. Filed by The SCO Group, Inc.. Hearing scheduled for 11/6/2007 at 10:00 AM at US Bankruptcy Court, 824 Market St., 6th Fl., Courtroom #3, Wilmington, Delaware. (Attachments: # (1) Certificate of Service and Service List) (O'Neill, James)

184 - Filed & Entered: 11/02/2007
Affidavit/Declaration of Service
Docket Text: Affidavit/Declaration of Service of Kimberly A. Beck re: Docket Nos. [177], [178] and [179] - Novell, Inc.'s Reply to Debtors' Response to Motion for Relief From Automatic Stay to Proceed with District Court Action to (I) Apportion Revenue from SCOscource Licenses and (II) Determine SCO's Authority to Enter into SCOsource Licenses, Etc. [177]; Novell, Inc.'s Reply in Support of Motion for Order Directing the Debtors to Remit Undisputed Future SVRX Royalties to Novell Upon Receipt [178]; and Novell's Objection to Emergency Motion of the Debtors for An Order (A) Approving Asset Purchase Agreement, (B) Establishing Sale and Bidding Procedures, and (C) Approving the Form and Manner of Notice of Sale [179] (related document(s)[177], [178], [179] ) Filed by Novell, Inc.. (Nestor, Michael)

185 - Filed & Entered: 11/02/2007
Notice of Appearance(B)
Docket Text: Notice of Appearance and Request for Service of Papers Filed by Plaintiffs' Executive Committee. (Crow, John)

Here's is the US Trustee's Objection, as text:

*******************************************

UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF DELAWARE

In re:

The SCO Group, Inc., et al.,

Debtors.

Chapter 11

Case No. 07-11337 (KG)
(Jointly Administered)

Hearing Date: November 6, 2007 at 2:00 p.m. (ET)

OBJECTION OF THE UNITED STATES TRUSTEE TO THE DEBTORS’
APPLICATION, PURSUANT TO 11 U.S.C. §§ 327(e), 328 AND 330, FOR APPROVAL
OF EMPLOYMENT OF BOIES, SCHILLER & FLEXNER LLP AS SPECIAL
LITIGATION COUNSEL TO THE DEBTORS
NUNC PRO TUNC TO THE PETITION DATE
(DOCKET ENTRY # 115)

In support of her objection to the Debtors' application, pursuant to 11 U.S.C. § 327(e), 328 and 330, for approval of the employment of Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP ("BSF") as special litigation counsel to the Debtors nunc pro tunc to the Petition Date (the "Application"), Kelly Beaudin Stapleton, United States Trustee for Region 3 ("U.S. Trustee"), by and through her counsel, avers:

INTRODUCTION

1. Under (i) 28 U.S.C. § 1334, (ii) (an) applicable order(s) of the United States District Court for the District of Delaware issued pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 157(a), and (iii) 28 U.S.C. § 157(b)(2), this Court has jurisdiction to hear and determine the Application and this objection.

2. Under 28 U.S.C. § 586(a)(3)(I), the UST is charged with monitoring applications filed under 11 U.S.C. § 327 "and, whenever the United States trustee deems it to be appropriate, filing with the court comments with respect to the approval of such applications." This duty is part

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of the U.S. Trustee's responsibility to enforce the laws as written by Congress and interpreted by the courts. See United States Trustee v. Columbia Gas Sys., Inc. (In re Columbia Gas Sys., Inc.), 33 F.3d 294, 295-96 (3d Cir. 1994) (noting that UST has "public interest standing" under 11 U.S.C. § 307 which goes beyond mere pecuniary interest); Morgenstern v. Revco D.S., Inc. (In re Revco D.S., Inc.), 898 F.2d 498, 500 (6th Cir. 1990) (describing the UST as a "watchdog").

3. Under 11 U.S.C. § 307, the U.S. Trustee has standing to be heard on the Application and the issues raised in this objection.

GROUNDS/BASES FOR RELIEF

4. The U.S. Trustee objects to the Application on the grounds identified below. Scope of Employment Needs to Be Limited

5. 11 U.S.C. § 327(e) ("Section 327(e)") of the Bankruptcy Code states that a chapter 11 debtor in possession1 may employ,

with the court's approval, for a specified special purpose, other than to represent the trustee in conducting the case, an attorney that has represented the debtor, if in the best interest of the estate, and if such attorney does not represent or hold any interest adverse to the debtor or to the estate with respect to the matter on which such attorney is to be employed. (Emphasis added).

6. Section 327(e) prohibits special counsel from representing the Debtors in conducting their cases. See In re Neuman, 138 B.R. 683, 686 (S.D.N.Y. 1992) ("[I]t is clear both from the language of § 327(e) and from the framework of § 327 more generally that, even if there is a special purpose, it is crucial that the appointment not be part of the trustee's general duty of conducting the

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case.") Accordingly, BSF's proposed scope of employment (described in paragraph 9 of the Application) should be narrowed to reflect that the firm will not be addressing bankruptcy issues before this Court or be otherwise involved in conducting these cases.

Rule 2014(a) Disclosures Need to Be Made

7. In paragraph 10 of his declaration in support of the Application, Stuart H. Singer, Esquire did not disclose BSF's "connections" as required by Federal Rule of Bankruptcy Procedure 2014(a). This Court should not rule on the Application until those disclosures are made. The U.S. Trustee reserves the right to amend or supplement this objection at or prior to the hearing in light of subsequent disclosures by BSF under Rule 2014(a).

Amount of Monies Held by BSF and Status Thereof Needs to Be Clarified

8. The Application suggests that BSF is holding monies previously paid to the firm by the Debtors pursuant to paragraphs a, b, and/or c (pages 1-2) of the October 31, 2004 engagement letter (appended as Exhibit A to the Application). The amount of those monies needs to be disclosed, as well as the Debtors'/BSF's position as to whether those funds are retainer funds which are property of the Debtors' estates.

Fees Need to Be Subject to Review Under Standard Employed in 11 U.S.C. § 330(a)

9. The fees payable to BSF (including fees payable pursuant to a Litigation Recovery or a Transaction Recovery) need to be subject to review by this Court under the standard set forth in 11 U.S.C. § 330. More specifically, the compensation terms of the October 31, 2004 engagement letter should not be "pre-approved" under the standard identified in 11 U.S.C. § 328(a).

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Retention, Compensation Sharing Provisions of Engagement Letter

10. The engagement letter provides for BSF's employment of counsel to assist it with the litigation matters and the sharing of monies received from the Debtors with other firms, including certain professionals that have been (or are proposed to be) retained by the Debtors' estates. The U.S. Trustee is reviewing how those provisions intersect with the Bankruptcy Code's provisions governing employment of professionals and prohibiting fee sharing (see 11 U.S.C. §§ 327, 504) and will report to the Court regarding her position on these provisions at or before the hearing.

Disputes Related to Employment Subject to Bankruptcy Court Jurisdiction

11. On page 5 of the engagement letter, there is a provision for submission of disputes between the parties to arbitration. Consistent with this Court's prior guidance, in the event that the Application is approved, disputes relating to BSF's employment by the Debtors must be submitted to the jurisdiction of this Court in the first instance. See In re United Cos. Fin. Corp., 241 B.R. 521 (Bankr. D. Del. 1999).

[Continued on next page space intentionally left blank]

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CONCLUSION

WHEREFORE the U.S. Trustee requests that this Court issue an order denying the Application or granting other relief consistent with this objection.

Respectfully submitted,

KELLY BEAUDIN STAPLETON
UNITED STATES TRUSTEE

BY: /s/ Joseph J. McMahon, Jr.
Joseph J. McMahon, Jr., Esquire (# 4819)
Trial Attorney
United States Department of Justice
Office of the United States Trustee
J. Caleb Boggs Federal Building
[address, phone, Fax]

Date: November 2, 2007


1 Although Section 327(e) refers to the "trustee," pursuant to 11 U.S.C. § 1107 most of the rights, powers, and duties of a trustee in a chapter 11 case are conferred upon the debtor in possession. This includes the trustee's power to employ professional persons under 11 U.S.C. § 327. See United States Trustee v. Price Waterhouse, 19 F.3d 138, 141 (3d Cir. 1994); see also Fed. R. Bankr. P. 9001(10) ("`Trustee' includes a debtor in possession in a Chapter 11 case.").

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Off-topic here, please
Authored by: overshoot on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 01:14 PM EDT
Nice instructions in red at the bottom of the entry page will help you
prettyprint with clicky links.

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Volitile Schedule
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 01:21 PM EDT
Is it my imagination, or do the times for these BK hearings seem subject to alot
of last minute changes (or even cancelations)? One almost get's the impression
that one of the parties doesn't love all the scrutiny.

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Sale Motion Deferred
Authored by: RFD on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 01:21 PM EDT
SCO's motion for and emergency motion for an order authorizing the sale of it's
UNIX business will not be heard on 6 Nov.,but has been deferred until 16 Nov. at
4:00 PM.

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Eschew obfuscation assiduously.

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Corrections here, please
Authored by: ggiedke on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 01:26 PM EDT
refect -> reflect in first grey box

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News Picks commentary here
Authored by: SpaceLifeForm on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 01:28 PM EDT
Please note which article you are referencing.

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You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.

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US Trustee - More like US Marshall!
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 01:39 PM EDT
"There's money on the loose here people. I want a hard target search of
every warehouse, farmhouse, henhouse, outhouse and doghouse in the area. You're
target's name is Darl McBride."

Hee!

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Disagreeing with the US Trustee
Authored by: cricketjeff on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 01:40 PM EDT
I am clearly anything but an expert here, but surely the trustee is much more
likely to get his way than any of the private parties. He is after all to all
intents and purposes on the same "side" as the court.

This is a question rather than a statement.

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There is nothing in life that doesn't look better after a good cup of tea.

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Have they jumped?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 01:44 PM EDT
It appears that The SCO Group has jumped from the frying pan into the fire.

My guess is any day now they will claim, "Never mind. We're not really
bankrupt after all."

Can they do that?

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The trustee is awake
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 01:47 PM EDT
... and doing his job diligently.

The creditors are wide awake, watching very carefully, and complaining about
things that look fishy.

Looks like the judge is going to have all the input he needs to see the funny
business for what it is (if he needed any in the first place).

The fireworks are about to start. I can't wait...

MSS2

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Ouch!
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 01:56 PM EDT
Hey, everybody!

Whoa. Didn't see THAT coming.

I'm wondering if BSF are in more trouble than we realize. First, they were just
looking at sanctions in Utah, and other complaints later. Was part of this not
only to protect SCO from having to fess up, but also them?

It occurs to me that this case is being conducted the way everyone jokes the law
works -- get a fast lawyer, throw around enough money, and you can get any
judgement you want. But there's a bug in the program.

What do you think? Is there more to this than we know, and they are trying
desperately to keep it that way? I mean, both of them. We know SCO is shifty.
But what if BSF is mixed up deeper than we realized?

Dobre utka,
The Blue Sky Ranger

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Certificate of No Objection (182)
Authored by: SpaceLifeForm on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 02:08 PM EDT
I find this interesting that Novell wants to
clearly document that SCO made no objection
to the motion for an order authorizing SuSE to
file exhibits to affidavit of Felix Imendoerffer
under seal.

They are saying that SCO had 12 days to object,
and they did not.

Now, my question: Is this normal (to note the
lack of objection), or is this a nudge to the judge
to issue the order, pronto?

Or, are they just documenting the lack of objection
to prevent SCO from objecting to it later?

I'm thinking the sealed exhibits will turn out to
very interesting in the future.



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You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.

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Trustee - Debtor in Possession
Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 02:57 PM EDT
I think you're right the trustee in bankruptcy is the person responsible for
managing the estate for the benefit of the creditors. In the case of Debtor in
Possession that the companies management.

Its hard to imaging Darl, Ralph and company operating the company for the
benefit of the estate and the creditors.

Sometimes the management can be replaced with a caretaker management for the
purpose of salvaging the company. That happened in Adelphia Cable, and the
management team had a plan for giving equity to the creditors and coming out of
bankruptcy. Eventually the company was sold in parts to other cable operators.

I think its also possible to have a trustee appointed to actually run the
company, that happened in another case I was tangentially involved in.

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Rsteinmetz - IANAL therefore my opinions are illegal.

"I could be wrong now, but I don't think so."
Randy Newman - The Title Theme from Monk

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Engagement letter not "preapproved"?
Authored by: rfrazier on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 03:04 PM EDT
This, if I understand it correctly, is a woozy. They have the authority to
revisit this? Is it because it may be the case that although BSF is holding the
swag, it isn't really all theirs, BSF's, until they complete their duties with
respect to SCO's litigation? So, the bit that they are holding, but which is
not really theirs yet, is still, really, part of SCO's estate? Why shouldn't it
just be considered payment up front, one that was made years ago?

Best wishes,
Bob

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Piercing the corporate veil
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 03:09 PM EDT
This is probably going to be the best shot IBM, Novell, Red Hat, etc. have of
recovering any of the money SCO's charred corpse is going to owe them. Go after
the deep pockets, in this case BS&F.

That the trustee is already starting down this road is a good sign that he's got
an idea where this is eventually going.

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Delaying Tactic??
Authored by: mobrien_12 on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 03:32 PM EDT
This article has made me start to wonder if the Ch11 was just another SCO delaying tactic in the courtroom cases. Basically, after all their bluster, they had nothing after all these years of litigation and discovery. The cases come due, and it looks like it's very probable that not only will they lose their "lottery ticket" claims, but may have to face some serious losses in countersuits (i.e. Novell).

So, could it be that they decided to declare bankruptcy, get BSF to represent them in bankruptcy, then keep searching for something to use in a trial? Then when the stay is lifted, will Judge Wells and Kimball have to face a battery of motions saying things like "we didn't put this forward before but you should allow it because ...."?

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US Trustee Objects to Boies Schiller ...
Authored by: tangomike on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 03:37 PM EDT
If Darl and his rustlers still thought they were getting away with all the money
they've been payed, this should make their weekend a lot less fun. With BS&F
sidelined and ordered to pay fees back (I'm just speculating) the non-lawyers
should be shaking in their shoes.

Yes, I'm grinning.


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  • payed = paid - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 10:44 PM EDT
US Trustee Objects to Boies Schiller Conducting SCO's Bankruptcy Case; Wants Role Narrowed; Look
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 04:09 PM EDT
If the trustee wants to inspect the 2004 pre-payments to BSF, she'll need to
require BSF to provide an accounting as to hours spent against the pre-payment
(to determine whether their are still SCO $$s being held by BSF). It follows
that, as part of the accounting,

-> BSF will have to disclose the hourly rates that are being utilized for the
calculations of their 'draw' against the pre-payment. I don't think we've seen
these rates before.

-> we'll get to see whether, and when, David Boies himself has been charging
for his own hours. Since he's made no in-court appearance since he filed his
official 'appearance' in the Utah court, I wonder how busy he claims to have
been in the background?

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Kelly Beaudin Stapleton
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 04:26 PM EDT
Kelly Beaudin Stapleton seems to be tough. At least she is smart enough to have brought in the FBI into a case if something really is bad:



An employee of the Tersigni firm, Bradley Rapp, discovered discrepancies in Tersigni's billing records in the spring of 2006. He found time records pumped up by 5 percent to 15 percent before being submitted to the court for payment. Within 48 hours, he reported his suspicions to the Office of the U.S. Trustee, his attorney said Thursday.

U.S. Trustee Kelly Beaudin Stapleton, who monitors the bankruptcy court, referred the matter to Christopher Christie, the U.S. Attorney in Newark, N.J. Rapp's attorney said Christie's office called in the FBI and began an investigation.

"Everyone was told to stand down, including the U.S. Trustee," said the attorney, Robert K. Malone.

Malone said Rapp was instructed to stay on the job at the Tersigni firm and supply documents to the U.S. Attorney and FBI, which he did.



Sounds like one better be nice to her.

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No your honour the BSF money is not ours, its Novells
Authored by: thorpie on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 04:32 PM EDT
And BSF knew it was from the start

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Floyd, Pink

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PJ, the US Trustee is a she not a he.
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 04:44 PM EDT
"Kelly Beaudin Stapleton, United States Trustee for Region 3 ("U.S.
Trustee"), by and through her counsel, avers:"

You have referred to her as a he an number of times. That isn't very polite.
:-)

Dan

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Kelly Beaudin Stapleton
Authored by: Yossarian on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 05:14 PM EDT
www.usdoj.gov/ust/eo/public_affairs/press/docs/stapleton_release2_12-04.htm

"'I am honored to be appointed U.S. Trustee for a region with
such a challenging and complex case load,' Ms. Stapleton
stated. 'As a former prosecutor, the elimination of fraud and
abuse from the bankruptcy system is of compelling interest to
me.'"

I am sure that SCO will be generous enough to give Ms.
Stapleton some opportunities to practice her compelling interest.

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Watchdog
Authored by: Yossarian on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 05:45 PM EDT
>That role is described as, in part, that of a watchdog

The job of a watchdog is not to bite but to sound the alarm
when things go wrong. Or as
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Trustee
puts it: "When a government attorney working at the EUOST or
any of its regional or field offices observes or suspects any
criminal activity, it must be referred to a District Attorney
for investigation." Assuming the Trustee will do her job, and
will read some of the IBM/Novell filing, I expect her to refer
some of SCO's activities to the DA.

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US Trustee at the first hearing
Authored by: rsi on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 06:28 PM EDT
was a man. Maybe there are two, the first one was temporary, or he has been
replaced.

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Did BSF write the motion to stay and punish Novell?
Authored by: gvc on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 06:31 PM EDT
I thought the indignant self-righteous black-is-white and white-is-black style
looked familiar. I even wondered if BSF wrote it and said to myself, "nah,
this is a different case and they have different lawyers."

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The situation here
Authored by: dmarker on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 07:09 PM EDT

I believe the following opinion is well understood here but is worth the
comment.

tSCOg's actions invoking ch11 protection and their 'fire sale' and many other
highly unusual maneuvering, appear to be an attempt to hide/obscure/confuse a
situation that could well lead to criminal charges against some tSCOg executives
and also open up the potential of investigations of anti-trust activities by a
large US software company.

It may be both or just one.

It now seems that the tSCOg management need to be stood down to prevent any
further criminal or illegal activities, for what ever purpose, that they may try
to perform.

The tSCOg story is surely going to go down on record as one of the most bizarre
episodes in US IT litigation.

DSM

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US Trustee: " Public interest standing
Authored by: arch_dude on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 09:28 PM EDT
Look at para 2 of this filing:
2. Under 28 U.S.C. § 586(a)(3)(I), the UST is charged with monitoring applications filed under 11 U.S.C. § 327 "and, whenever the United States trustee deems it to be appropriate, filing with the court comments with respect to the approval of such applications." This duty is part of the U.S. Trustee's responsibility to enforce the laws as written by Congress and interpreted by the courts. See United States Trustee v. Columbia Gas Sys., Inc. (In re Columbia Gas Sys., Inc.), 33 F.3d 294, 295-96 (3d Cir. 1994) (noting that UST has "public interest standing" under 11 U.S.C. § 307 which goes beyond mere pecuniary interest); Morgenstern v. Revco D.S., Inc. (In re Revco D.S., Inc.), 898 F.2d 498, 500 (6th Cir. 1990) (describing the UST as a "watchdog").

The US Trustee can actually represent the public as a whole. That's us, people! For the very first time, there is a way for the community as a whole to be represented in a SCOG case. For years, we have asked PJ if this was feasible, e.g. via amicus curae filings, and for years, PJ has explained why this is a bad idea. But now, there is apparently an official who asserts that she has the responsibility to represent the intrests of the general public. So, PJ, should we send respectful individual letters to the US Trustee, or would it be more effective to work out a Groklaw "open letter", as we did in response to McB's original rant in 2003? The bulk of the aggragate harm caused by SCOG's lawsuits fall on "the public interest" far more than they do on any of the litigants. We need to make sure that the UST understands this. The judges should probably not read Groklaw since their primary role is to judge between the litigants in civil cases, but the UST has now officially reminded everyone that one of her specific responsibilities is to be an advocate for the people. This is a much more explicit and active responsibility than the vague secondary responsibilities laid on the litigants and the judges in civil cases.

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Docket 185
Authored by: lannet on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 09:52 PM EDT
Do we have any background on the IPO case?
It strikes me that there could be serious SEC interest in any wrongdoings over
the IPO, let alone everything since.

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Court postponed the asset sale past York's deadline
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 10:00 PM EDT

No one else seems to have noticed this. The bankruptcy judge has postponed the hearing on SCO's "emergency motion" to sell assets to November 16th. See [183] That's after York's supposed deadline. SCO's motion claims that "The offer requires that an order approving the bid procedures proposed herein be approved on or before November 9, 2007, and that the transactions contemplated by the APA be approved by no later than December 7, 2007."

SCO's plans for a quick asset sale were just derailed. Either York withdraws the offer, in which case the issue is moot, or they adjust the deadline, in which case it's clear there's no real urgency.

It's significant that the judge simply announced this without consulting SCO's attorneys. It's a clear signal that SCO isn't going to get their way through frantic motion practice.

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Plaintiffs' Executive Committee - IPO Securities Litigation
Authored by: SpaceLifeForm on Friday, November 02 2007 @ 10:21 PM EDT
Link

Scroll down the list, note that Caldera Systems, Inc. is there.

The case is huge, to put it mildly. It is about IPO underwriters manipulating the market pre Y2k rollover through 2000-12-06.

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Why did the US Trustee make the 'public interest' point?
Authored by: Ian Al on Saturday, November 03 2007 @ 05:10 AM EDT
The motion starts by noting the US Trustee's duty to interpret, observe and uphold the law. It then goes on to make the following point,

See United States Trustee v. Columbia Gas Sys., Inc. (In re Columbia Gas Sys., Inc.), 33 F.3d 294, 295-96 (3d Cir. 1994) (noting that UST has “public interest standing” under 11 U.S.C. § 307 which goes beyond mere pecuniary interest); Morgenstern v. Revco D.S., Inc. (In re Revco D.S., Inc.), 898 F.2d 498, 500 (6th Cir. 1990) (describing the UST as a “watchdog”).
As you know, I think it would be in the public interest to have BS&F tarred and feathered on the steps of the court, but I have been watching too long to think that this is part of the US Trustees duty. (OK, so I've just been here too long.) So, what is the public interest (beyond any financial interest) that the US Trustee has gone out of her way to mention at the top of this motion? Perhaps it is the need for the public to see the law being upheld. As an institution, the court defends the public interest by making as much of the proceedings available to us as is possible. What is the US Trustees particular role?

The reference in question is as follows,

TITLE 11. BANKRUPTCY · UNITED STATES CODE

Chapter 3. Case Administration

Subchapter I. Commencement of a Case

11 USC § 307. United States trustee

The United States trustee may raise and may appear and be heard on any issue in any case or proceeding under this title but may not file a plan pursuant to section 1121(c) of this title.

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More like vultures . . .
Authored by: billwww on Saturday, November 03 2007 @ 02:54 PM EDT
. . . gathering around dying COwS.

billwww--forever addicted to Groklaw

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Bring the case home to Delaware
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 03 2007 @ 04:29 PM EDT
Just had a chuckle following some links back into the history
of this case:

Anonymous(not me) on Saturday, November 15 2003 @ 01:08 PM
At the end of the rainbow is a JURY TRIAL.
Where, a jury will rule one way or the other!
...
In a JURY TRIAL...anything can happen!
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Fact: SCO has the money in hand to take the whole thing to a jury
to decide (that far)! It would be best if IBM could move the trial to
Delaware, out of SCO's home turf of Utah.

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Boies Schiller may have to give money back!
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 03 2007 @ 04:36 PM EDT
There may be justice after all.
The law firm that played the dirtiest - BSF - may be forced to give money
back. Obviously, the finds are a retainer. This is why BSF wanted to take part
in the bankruptcy - to keep spending the funds it got from SCO to avoid
giving it back. BSF must be livid with SCO because the bankruptcy will screw
over BSF. Well as tge saying goes: What goes around comes around!

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US Trustee Objects to Boies Schiller Conducting SCO's Bankruptcy Case; Wants Role Narrowed; Look
Authored by: JamesK on Saturday, November 03 2007 @ 04:46 PM EDT
Isn't this what SCO tried to do to PJ?

'"I view this as an attempt to bully and intimidate analysts--to try to cow
them into silence," says Christopher Sontag, executive vice president at
SCO, in Lindon, Utah'

The above from the Dan Lyons article.


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Another interesting tidbit from that Lyons article
Authored by: JamesK on Saturday, November 03 2007 @ 04:55 PM EDT
"Another theory is that IBM hopes to uncover secret connections between SCO
and Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people ). This theory holds that Microsoft
is funneling money into SCO via "fronts" like Baystar to keep SCO's
litigation alive and cast a shadow over Linux. Baystar has said Microsoft has
nothing to do with its SCO investment. Sontag says Microsoft has nothing to do
with SCO's lawsuit."

<sarcasm>

Who'd be crazy enough to think Microsoft had anything to do with this?

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OT: question about bankruptcy
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 03 2007 @ 06:03 PM EDT
OK, let's suppose SCO go into chapter 7 bankruptcy. Now recall that in the IBM
case, they received all that discovery from IBM (boxloads and boxloads of AIX
code, IIRC). Now all of this is supposed to be kept confidential.

So my question is, in this case, if SCO were bankrupt, who would pay for all of
the document storage, etc ?

More to the point, suppose the cases against IBM and Novell continue on after
SCO are bankrupt (i.e. the counter-claims still need resolving). If SCO have no
money left, who pays for the remaining court cases of a bankrupt company ? The
taxpayer ?

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Overstating a Coast
Authored by: Zarkov on Sunday, November 04 2007 @ 01:23 AM EST
Probably, but overstating the actual coast could get very dicy for BSF.

rsteinmetz70112 -:- 'Overstating a Coast' - is that something like falling off a cliff?? If so then I think you should be in line for a Qoute of the Month award. ;-)

I believe that BS&F have very definitely 'Overstated' the SCO 'Coast' and are rapidly approaching the very sudden stop at the bottom...

Stand well back - wouldn't want to get splashed...

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The Rule Makes Sense to Me.
Authored by: darkonc on Monday, November 05 2007 @ 03:07 AM EST
Since BSF (in this case) counseled SCO during their pre-petition life, it's possible that they may have been part of the reason why SCO is now in bankruptcy. That being the case, they could end up participating in this bankruptcy as parties, which would force them to withdraw as SCO's council.

Such an eventuality could result in a massive waste of time and money -- both of which can be critical in a bankruptcy case.

Now, I'm not saying that BSF is contributorially responsible for SCO's bankruptcy (cough, cough), but the courts have to take the possibility into consideration.

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