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SCO Loses More Money - Darl: "It's not a real pretty picture." |
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Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 04:27 PM EST
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SCO has filed with the SEC a press release as an exhibit, and it's another sad story about more money lost, despite legal expenses going down: "The decrease in revenue was primarily attributable to continued competitive pressures on the Company’s UNIX products and services."
Update: Layoffs confirmed, sort of. More specific information is promised when SCO files with the SEC in a few weeks. But SCO has now 45-50 employees working in Utah, 142 total. As to whether SCO is going bankrupt, as asserted by Novell in court filings, SCO CEO refused to officially confirm or deny. As an *individual*, CEO Darl McBride said that isn't what keeps him up at night worrying. He stays awake thinking about all the great technology they are developing. Novell's assertions "border on the ridiculous", he stated. But SCO's current assets are less than Novell says it is owed, down 19% from the previous Q4. From the horse's mouth:
"With respect to the negativity, some of it is warranted. Let's face it, it's not are a real pretty picture," McBride said in reference to SCO dismal financial performance.
Update2: Dan Goodin of The Register got a remarkably clear picture from the conference call, and he presents it in his article, "SCO punts on Novell bankruptcy claim": Novell last week said in a legal filing that SCO is on the verge of bankruptcy, not just in the event that SCO is ordered to pay $26m in contested licensing fees, but "because of its own financial missteps."
SCO last week responded by calling the claim FUD and a spokesman promised to report "all aspects of our business" during today's conference call.
Proving there are different interpretations of "all aspects," SCO never addressed the bankruptcy issue head on. Asked today whether insolvency was in fact imminent, SCO CEO Darl McBride would say only, "We're comfortable with our cash position." He then referred us to a court document SCO filed last week that he promised would more thoroughly respond to Novell's contention.
We checked but couldn't find a single sentence that addressed the claim that SCO's own missteps made bankruptcy imminent....What remains clear is that SCO's losses have snowballed in recent quarters. He links to SCO's site, but for those that would rather not visit there, we have the document here, along with all the other SCO v. Novell and SCO v. IBM filings. It's all here.
Bob Mims has more.
Here is how SCO sum it up: The SCO Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: SCOX), a leading provider of UNIX® software technology and mobile services, today reported results for its fourth quarter and fiscal year ended October 31, 2006.
Revenue for the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2006 was $7,349,000as compared to $8,528,000for the comparable quarter of the prior year. The net loss for the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2006 was $(3,743,000), or $(0.18) per diluted common share, as compared to a net loss of $(3,431,000), or $(0.19) per diluted common share, for the comparable quarter of the prior year. The decrease in revenue was primarily attributable to continued competitive pressures on the Company’s UNIX products and services.
“Even though competition is strong and continues to impact our revenue and operating results, we are continuing to develop and promote our UNIX solutions and mobile services strategy, as we believe that the market, as well as the benefits to our customers and partners, are significant,” said Darl McBride, president and CEO of The SCO Group. “During the fourth quarter we made adjustments to our operating model and eliminated certain costs. We believe these cost adjustments will allow the UNIX business to return to generating positive cash flow for the 2007 fiscal year. The Company continues to make progress in the development of its Me Inc. mobile services platform and applications. We remain committed to our UNIX business, introducing new mobile services to the marketplace and defending our intellectual property through the legal system.”
Revenue for the year ended October 31, 2006 was $29,239,000 as compared to $36,004,000 for the year ended October 31, 2005. The net loss for the year ended October 31, 2006 was $(16,598,000), or $(0.80) per diluted common share, as compared to a net loss of $(10,726,000), or $(0.60) per diluted common share, for the year ended October 31, 2005.
Legal and other expenses incurred in connection with the Company’s litigation were $2,220,000 for the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2006, which was down from costs of $3,380,000 for the comparable quarter of the prior year and down from costs of $2,315,000 for the third quarter of fiscal year 2006. Because of the unique and unpredictable nature of this litigation, the occurrence and timing of litigation-related expenses is difficult to predict, and will be difficult to predict in the future. While we expect to continue to incur legal costs and expenses related to our ongoing litigation during the 2007 fiscal year, our expectation is that those costs and expenses will be less than they were for the 2006 fiscal year.
Cash and cash equivalents, available-for-sale marketable securities and restricted cash to be used for certain legal expenses totaled $12,664,000 as of October 31, 2006, compared to $13,312,000 as of October 31, 2005.
The Company’s Business
During the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2006, the Company introduced an upgraded version of SCOoffice Server designed for SCO OpenServer 6 and UnixWare 7.1.4. The Company also began shipping SCO HA Clusters, a high availability solution for SCO OpenServer 6 customers that assures the constant availability of applications and data to the customer in the event of a hardware or software failure.
During the past year, the Company has developed a number of Me Inc. mobile services for use on a variety of industry smart phones for business and personal use. These mobile services are made possible through the Me Inc. Mobility Server, which is the back-end server technology based on the Company’s UNIX technology, that does much of the heavy lifting to make mobile phones substantially more powerful and useful. Combining these mobile services with the Company’s Me Inc. Mobility Server gives users a richer mobile experience and greater mobile capabilities than they would otherwise have.
During the quarter, the Company announced that it had entered into a strategic business partnership to develop, market, merchandise, and support a suite of Day-Timers branded mobile solutions for business and personal productivity. The Company is continuing development on the Day-Timers solution, and expects to begin shipping the solution during the second calendar quarter of 2007.
Conference Call
As previously announced, The SCO Group will host a conference call at 5:00 p.m. EST today, January 17, 2007, to discuss the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2006 results. To participate in the teleconference, please call toll free 1-888-343-2169 or use the toll number 1-212-346-6594; confirmation code: 21322180, approximately ten minutes prior to the time stated above. A listen-only Webcast of the call will be broadcast live with a replay available the following day. The Webcast and replay may be accessed from http://ir.sco.com/events.cfm.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 04:47 PM EST |
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Authored by: SpaceLifeForm on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 04:48 PM EST |
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Authored by: tiger99 on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 04:56 PM EST |
If needed, to assist PJ [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Chris Lingard on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 05:04 PM EST |
They show cash reserves of $12,664,000, but they have bundled real cash
with reserved cash.
This letter is not audited; in previous audited
accounts there has been at least $6 million cash held in reserve, because it
is already owed to people.
So their real cash reserves are less that
half that shown, and only enough to barely survive next quarter.
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Authored by: SilverWave on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 05:10 PM EST |
Good Riddance of Bad Rubbish
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Authored by: tiger99 on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 05:22 PM EST |
All Petrovsky just asked about the head count which is down to 142 from 166. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 05:26 PM EST |
some quick calculations:
(current assets) - (current liabilities) = 7,144,000
burn rate = 3,960,000 per quater (up from 3,479,000 last year)
at this rate they have about 2 quaters left to live, unless they get another
cash infusion.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: tiger99 on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 05:39 PM EST |
Some new product coming from a partnership, but maybe not till mid-year, which
seems to be about the time they go bust..... :-) Even better, a lady
questioner got in one about Novell saying that they are going bankrput. Darl is
rather dodging the issue..... [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 05:42 PM EST |
I have just heard Maureen O'Gara ask a couple of questions, in my opinion she
didn't sound particularly vibrant, she misunderstood some info and must have had
a dry throat because I heard her clink a glass and take a sip.
Perhaps she has a sore throat but did anyone else get the impression that she
may have been calling from a timezone where it's late at night?
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 05:42 PM EST |
He has learned to keep his mouth shut.
He still has a bit to go..
but the old "MIT deep dive" Darl has been 'controlled'..
Still wouldn't trust him for a second... he still hasn't answered a straight
question with a straight answer...
but at least his tongue is better managed[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: tiger99 on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 05:45 PM EST |
Confirmed that they have been working without payment for 3 quarters now.
Couldn't happen to a nicer law firm.... But it sounds like the Novell
arbitration is costing a bit! [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: tiger99 on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 05:50 PM EST |
Someone slipped in a question about how many of the remaining 111 claims against
IBM that they need to win, in order to regard it as a win. Darl waffled a bit,
and of course dodged the issue...... But I don't think he is enjoying it at all.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: tiger99 on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 06:02 PM EST |
As usual, Darl is suggesting that the next year will be better, with all the new
products coming along. Yet Me, Inc is only bringing in tiny amounts of
revenue. Next quarter, I predict that cash will be down by about $3 or
$4M, maybe more, with only one quarter's funding left, and he will say
exactly the same...... The guy amazes me. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: roboteye on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 06:46 PM EST |
for the past few years the 4th quarter CC also marked a 10-K submission to the
SEC. No 10-K this time; last time it wasn't submitted was due to an auditor's
spat (changed over to another auditor).
I wonder if there's a tad resistance to signing off tSCOg as a "going
concern". [I'm concerned it's still going][ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: UglyGreenTroll on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 07:12 PM EST |
$3.4 million in marketing costs.
$2.3 million in R&D costs.
This is just for the quarter.
Who in their right mind would develop and market new products under the SCO
label? The name is toxic. One may as well try to sell food under the brand
"E Coli Industries."
Spending money on the above makes no business sense for SCO (although it may
make legal sense). It makes me wonder what McBride is thinking. Is he delusional
in addition to his other problems?
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Authored by: Peter Baker on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 07:38 PM EST |
Maybe I'm misunderstanding things, but I would have expected some reference to
the current license revenue debate with Novell. After all, that creates a
potential to basically nuke the company finances there and then so I would
imaging it's relevant data to an investor.
And, of course, you can't fail to spot the statement on the
"unpredicatable" nature of the lawsuits. Methinks there is a vastly
increasing predictability about both of them, and it's ain't looking pretty for
SCO as far as I can see (IMHO, IANAL etc). But I assume that would be
conveniently considered a forward looking statement..
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 08:04 PM EST |
or very delusional.
He stays awake thinking about all the great
technology they are developing.
Wishful thinking is more like
it.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 08:04 PM EST |
>>>
a leading provider of UNIX® software technology and mobile
services
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When did SCO stop claiming ownership of all software?[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 08:20 PM EST |
Hmm. SCO's equity as of Oct. 31 almost exactly equals their market cap today.
Getting pretty close to the point where the investors could recover more cash by
liquidating the company than by selling stock.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 08:22 PM EST |
They still claim $116,000 in SCOSource revenue in 2006. Who are the suckers who
are still paying??[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 08:24 PM EST |
They still claim $116,000 in SCOSource revenue in 2006. Who are the suckers who
are still paying??[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Yossarian on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 08:34 PM EST |
>As an *individual*, CEO Darl McBride said that
>isn't what keeps him up at night worrying.
I think that Darl is not all that worry about losing all the
stock holders money. What really worries him is how to stay
out of jail while IBM lawyers will check everything he did
and say in the last 5 years.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 08:55 PM EST |
My favorite part was when Darl said (paraphrasing)
Over the past few
years I've learned that people can say pretty much anything in these court
filings
...who would know better ?
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 10:16 PM EST |
Hey, everybody!
"There's no sense in telling me,
"'The wisdom of a fool won't set you free.'
"But that's the way that it goes
"And it's what nobody knows
"And everyday my confusion grows."
I believe the best metaphor that sums up the whole SCO case is "paper
tiger."
I love his suggestion that it's not the company's situation that keeps him up,
but the new product launches. Hyperbole needs lighter reality to keep the
wheels from breaking off the bandwagon.
Considering no one is investing any money or hope in SCO, and the PIPE Fairy has
gone AWOL, I get the impression that Darl knows full well he's been left holding
the diaper. All those dollar signs are history. It's not just about kiting the
stock. He needs to invest the money because his career is over--no one will
ever hire him again. His name has become a punchline. Losing money is one
thing. Trying to buck the system, destroying a company, and going down on the
bad side of case law history has a tendency to color the resume a bit.
I haven't worked in a Douglas Adams reference in a while, so here's one--unless
he's going to argue that his statements are truth because they are more
beautiful and truth is beauty, he might as well admit he's sunk.
Dobre utka,
The Blue Sky Ranger[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 10:28 PM EST |
How many hours before Novell files again to get the loose change left laying
around on Darl's desk locked away in a trust?
Charles from Oz[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 17 2007 @ 11:44 PM EST |
I can just imagine Darl being at the control of an aircraft - A big one, Slowly
morphing into a smaller plane as bits break off, whilst the "Terrain!!
Terrain!! PULL UP!! PULL UP!! WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP!
And all he can say is "It's not a pretty picture"... "But I don't
loose sleep over it".
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 02:27 AM EST |
We know that as of today, SCO's market caps is 23.4 million ($1.11 x outstanding
shares). My question is, why does IBM not just buy them outright at this point?
They've got to know that if they run this through its due course, they're not
getting their lawyers fees back from SCO. So why not just buy the company after
negotiating with Novell and other lawsuit interests, and sell whatever is left.
Cut the loss. Or have IBM and Novell mutally buy them and divvy it up. It ends
the case. They cut their losses NOW and everyone gets on with life. Of course,
they'd still get to fire Darl & co and perhaps turn over their shady
dealings to the SEC to watch them burn.
At such small numbers, doesn't it really make sense at this point? It would make
them privy to all the info about their dealings with MSFT and Baystar. I'd think
what they'd get would be a bargain at this point in the game, especially
considering they could really get MSFT caught up in it too.
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- poison pill - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 04:10 AM EST
- Other alternative - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 04:58 AM EST
- Because it's not just about money - Authored by: PJ on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 05:00 AM EST
- SCO need to be made an example of - Authored by: billyskank on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 06:47 AM EST
- Why not have IBM buy them now. - Authored by: Steve Martin on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 07:05 AM EST
- Why not have IBM buy them now. - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 07:06 AM EST
- Why not have IBM buy them now. - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 07:25 AM EST
- Buying them would be very expensive: Novell debts - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 07:52 AM EST
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Authored by: lannet on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 05:34 AM EST |
I have no idea how bankruptcy laws work in the US, but surely Novell now have
sufficient evidence to try to foreclose on SCOX and force them into bankruptcy
or administration.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 05:39 AM EST |
Gack! or even "to it's doom"
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Authored by: chris_bloke on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 05:53 AM EST |
Here's a ripper from the 8K
on their
website:
Because of the unique and unpredictable
nature
of this litigation, the occurrence and timing of
litigation-related expenses is
difficult to predict, and
will be difficult to predict in the
future.
I think "unique and unpredictable" is it down to a
T,
but they only have themselves to blame! [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Steve Martin on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 07:48 AM EST |
Mims re: the conference call:
"We're very focused and
determined to turn this thing around to the green [ink] rather than the red,"
McBride said in a teleconference Wednesday afternoon.
My
attention was snagged by this apparently Freudian slip; doesn't Mr. McBride know
that accountants typically use black ink for positive results, rather
than green ink?
;)
--- "When I say something, I put
my name next to it." -- Isaac Jaffee, "Sports Night" [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Sunny Penguin on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 08:04 AM EST |
Notice that he said nothing of The SCO Group's cash position, only
our cash position.
Darl, Who's your friends?
Where did they get
the cash? --- If you love your bike, let it go.
If it comes back, you high sided..... [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 09:17 AM EST |
everything would be great if novell didn't do the deal with microsoft.
I guess since sco wasn't working so good for microsoft they had to find another
sucker to get revenue from linux and meanwhile try to destroy it while ballmer
spewing whatever he wants.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 10:22 AM EST |
"He stays awake thinking about all the great technology they are
developing."
Indeed, thanks to Darl's great contribution to technology SCO has become the
leading producer of "misinformation" products. Companies who wish to
game our legal system should seriously consider Darl's great technology.
P.L.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 11:16 AM EST |
The correct link is Vendors Jostle in
Unix Preference Survey.
Here is an intersting bit from the
article:
For example, when asked who would be the dominant player
in the Unix market five years from now, 42 percent said IBM, 33 percent said
Sun, and 23 percent went with HP.
Funny, these numbers add up
to 98% and SCO was not even mentioned anywhere. It clearly contradicts this claim:
About The SCO Group
The SCO Group
(NASDAQ: SCOX) is a leading provider of UNIX software
technology...
:=) [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 18 2007 @ 04:17 PM EST |
They claim to have $12 million in cash, but are burning about $3 million a
quarter in losses. SCO says their expenses will be less in 2007, including lower
legal fees, but sales are dropping at an alarming rate. One wonders if we are
within one year of either of the following:
1) Official SCO bankruptcy
2) SCO killing it's sales and development staff to trim expenses to a point
where they can last another year or two without spending much. Of course if they
do this, sales may plummet. That would be a huge negative statement about the
future viability of their UNIX OS or their intention to keep supporting it and
fixing issues.
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