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OpenLinux, 2.4 kernel, available July 2003 [large graphic]
Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 06:18 AM EDT

Here's a review of Caldera's OpenLinux from 2001:
Caldera OpenLinux Workstation release 3.1 is a Linux, desktop operating system (OS) based on the Linux 2.4.2 kernel. It's for stand-alone use or network use as either a client or server. Caldera started shipping it on June 30, 2001. OpenLinux Workstation 3.1 replaces eDesktop 2.4 in the Caldera products lineup.

I have a screenshot I took on July 23, 2003, as you can see from the timestamp at the bottom. I used an application I used to use as a paralegal to take screenshots that would be accepted in courts of law to establish dates. OpenLinux 3.1 sources were still available for download 4 months after SCO began its IBM litigation, from ftp.caldera.com, and no, I saw no wording telling me that it was for prior customers only. Yes, the files were there. I actually am a prior customer, one step removed. I was given a copy of OpenLinux before this date, but in any case, there were no restrictions on the page that I saw.

Yes. That means to me that SCO released it under the GPL once and for all, and by then they had already "discovered" its contents.

You could also buy OpenLinux on Tucows in June of 2003:

Or, if you preferred, you could get OpenLinux Server from InActSys in June:

They had the OpenLinux 3.1 Workstation available also in June:


  


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Corrections Here
Authored by: entre on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 06:37 AM EDT
For PJ

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No Problem Here...
Authored by: RFD on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 06:43 AM EDT
But I have broadband.

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Image size
Authored by: MathFox on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 06:43 AM EDT
It is too large for my default Firefox window size...
640 pixels wide would be the maximum for people on a 800x600 screen resolution;
400 would be better. (My suggestion is to put a link to the full size image in
the page)

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Sadly, this doesn't really prove anything.
Authored by: Steve Martin on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 06:47 AM EDT
PJ, I think you know I would never want to disparage any of your postings, but
sadly this screen shot doesn't prove that TSG was distributing on this date. I
can go to this same site today and get the same folder display (plus some that
don't show up here), but the Linux folders are empty; no Linux code there.

Incidentally, when I tried going to this site, laughingly I got a box asking for
my username. I clicked "Cancel" and got right in. Sound familiar?


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Night"

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Screen Size
Authored by: The Mad Hatter r on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 06:52 AM EDT


Looks great to me, but I run 1280 x 1024 resolution.



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OpenLinux, 2.4 kernel, available July 2003
Authored by: juliac on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 07:03 AM EDT
I run at 800x600, and it's too large for me -- makes the text so wide I'd have
to scroll horizontally back and forth just to read the article. However,
reducing it to 400 px wide causes it to lose too much detail. You could crop it
and leave it like it is, or reduce to somewhere around 600 wide, and/or make the
image a link to a larger image. (Also, it's indented somewhat; if you could make
it flush left that would help a bit.)


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The OT thread
Authored by: MadScientist on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 07:29 AM EDT

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The screenshot application
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 08:18 AM EDT
You say the date would be accepted in court. I don't know what application this, so I would ask these questions:
  • Does it get the time from the computer clock? If so, you could set it to whatever you like.
  • Did you download the page four months before and leave the computer turned on with the page open before taking the screen shot?
  • Can you verify that the image was created by your application and not by some other image editor?

We don't doubt you here, but in a court the other party would want to know these and more.

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In 1996 Caldera was supplying a Redhat Linux
Authored by: Chris Lingard on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 09:11 AM EDT

I have a complete boxed set of "Caldera Network Desktop --- Linux Operating system". The included mouse mat also has this title on it. So Caldera had been distributing open source for years, and knew about the GPL.

The kernel is CND-kernel-source-1.2.13-6.src.rpm, The box also contains 2 floppies, 2 CDs and 2 books, one on which has the GPL in the back. The installation CD's case has the inscription "Special thanks to Linux Torvalds and thousands of others whose efforts have made Linux a reality"

There are both binary and source packages, (rpm and srpm)

The README file contains:

Caldera Network Desktop

Release 1.0

17-January-1996

Caldera, Inc.

Orem, Utah, USA

The contents of this CDROM are Copyright (C) 1996 Red Hat Software, Caldera Inc and others. Please see the individual copyright notices in each source package for distribution terms. The distribution terms of the tools copyrighted by Red Hat Software are as noted in the file COPYING.

This release includes major components from Red Hat Linux 2.1 and the LST Installation.

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SCO OpenLinux
Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 09:46 AM EDT
There was an even later version branded as SCO OpenLinux, which was availible in
the SCO Blue and Yello Box. I almost bought a box on eBay a year or so ago.

Here is the SCOG product number 1SRV03E0310NR this is NFR demo copy.


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OpenLinux, 2.4 kernel, available July 2003 [large graphic]
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 11:05 AM EDT
I actually have a linux-2.4.13-21S.src.rpm downloaded from SCOs FTP servers on
August 7, 2003 from:

ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/updates/OpenLinux/3.1.1/Server/CSSA-2003-020.0/SRPMS/linux
-2.4.13-21S.src.rpm

I don't think the file is still there anymore, but it was on 8/7/2003. The
license file is included in the package.

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OpenLinux, 2.4 kernel, available July 2003 [large graphic]
Authored by: hanzie on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 11:37 AM EDT
The day Caldera released OpenLinux 2.2, I walked into their office and bought a
copy with cash.

The box (with everything still inside) is sitting next to me right now. The box
says it includes the "new 2.2.5 kernel". I never installed it,
because I also had RedHat, but I figured I'd help support Linux.

CD#2 is labeled "source code"

If this would be helpful, let me know.

hanzie.

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Legal Notice on Caldera FTP site.
Authored by: rsmith on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 11:56 AM EDT
In the root directory of the Caldera ftp site (ftp.caldera.com) there is a file
called Legal_Notice, dated the 8th au August 2003:

ncftp / > ls -l
-rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp ftp 899 Aug 8 2003 Legal_Notice
drwxr-xr-x 2 ftp ftp 144 Mar 14 2000 bin
drwxr-xr-x 2 ftp ftp 96 Mar 14 2000 etc
drwxr-xr-x 2 ftp ftp 48 Nov 19 1999 lib
drwxrwxr-x 36 ftp ftp 1088 Aug 3 2005 pub
-rw--w-r-- 1 ftp ftp 220 Sep 19 2003 welcome.msg

It contains:

ncftp / > less Legal_Notice
NOTICE: SCO has suspended new sales and distribution of SCO Linux until
the intellectual property issues surrounding Linux are resolved. SCO will,
however, continue to support existing SCO Linux and Caldera OpenLinux
customers consistent with existing contractual obligations. SCO offers at
no extra charge to its existing Linux customers a SCO UNIX IP license for
their use of prior SCO or Caldera distributions of Linux in binary
format. The license also covers binary use of support updates distributed
to them by SCO. This SCO license balances SCO's need to enforce its
intellectual property rights against the practical needs of existing
customers in the marketplace.

The Linux rpms available on SCO's ftp site are offered for download to
existing customers of SCO Linux, Caldera OpenLinux or SCO UnixWare with
LKP, in order to honor SCO's support obligations to such customers.

The directory /pub/OpenLinux3.1 contains a file ".message" with the
same content, dated august 4th 2003:

ncftp /pub/OpenLinux3.1 > ls -al
drwxrwxr-x 2 ftp ftp 72 Jan 18 2005 .
drwxrwxr-x 36 ftp ftp 1088 Aug 3 2005 ..
-rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp ftp 899 Aug 4 2003 .message

So the files were probably removed and the message installed between the 4th and
8th of August 2003. Assuming that the clock on ftp.caldera.com runs correctly,
and nobody used touch(1) to alter the file dates.

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OpenLinux, 2.4 kernel, available July 2003 [large graphic]
Authored by: luckystill on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 01:40 PM EDT
Caldera OpenLinux 2.4 eDesktop 2.4 was my very first Linux distribution, and it
had a 2.2.14 kernel. In 2001, I picked up a copy of Caldera Linux Technology
Preview which was a commercially packaged beta version of their Linux OS at the
time, and it geatured a 2.4 kernel. The copyright printed on the CD is 2000. I
have the binary and source code CD-ROMs for both Linux operating systems
although I've never taken the time to see if they'd be useful for anything
related to the ongoing cases.

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OpenLinux, 2.4 kernel, available July 2003 [large graphic]
Authored by: LimaShay on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 03:53 PM EDT
See text below from my CD copy of Caldera Open Linux Workstation 3.1.1.

LICENSE.txt file contents:

DEV GPL
ImageMagick distributable, freeware
LSM distributable
OpenLinux GPL
OpenLinux-keys distributable
PHI Caldera Systems, Inc.; GPL.
PHI-data 1999-2001 / Caldera Systems, Inc.; GPL.
SysVinit GPL
SysVinit-scripts GPL
XFree86 MIT
XFree86 MIT
XFree86-config GPL
Xaw3d MIT
Xbae distributable
a2ps Akim Demaille <demaille@gargantua.enst.fr>; GPL
acpid GPL
adduser GPL
adjtimex distributable
afio various (redistributable)
am-utils Jan-Simon Pendry, Erez Zadok; BSD.
anonftp GPL
apache Apache License
apcupsd GPL v2
at David Parsons, Thomas Koenig; GPL.
autoconf Free Software Foundation, Inc.; GPL.
automake Free Software Foundation, Inc.; GPL.
bash Free Software Foundation, Inc.; GPL.
bash2 GPL
bc GPL
bdflush None
bin86 Bruce Evans; GPL
bind distributable
binutils GPL
bison GPL
bonnie++ GPL
bool Torsten Duwe; GPL.
bsd-finger BSD
byacc public domain
bzip2 BSD-style
camserv GPL
cdfs Joerg Schilling; GPL
cdsa Intel Open Source License
cgetty BSD
cgiemail MIT
cleandir GPL
coas2 GPL
col-tools GPL
compat-ncurses Free Software Foundation, Inc.; MIT-style, see Copying.
copyrights distributable.
cpio GPL
cracklib Alec David Edward Muffett; Artistic.
crontabs public domain
cupdate Caldera Systems, GPL
cups GPL; Michael Sweet <mike@easysw.com>
cups-efax Caldera (Deutschland) GmbH; GPL
cupsomatic GPL; Grant Taylor <gtaylor@picante.com>
cvs Brian Berliner; GPL.
db BSD
dbview GPL
dhcp distributable
dialog T.Dickey <dickey@herndon4.his.com>; GPL
diffutils Free Software Foundation, Inc.; GPL.
docbook-dtd30-sgml 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996 HaL Computer Systems, Inc.,
O'Reilly & Associates, Inc., ArborText, Inc., and Fujitsu Software
Corporation; distributable
docbook-dtd31-sgml 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999 HaL Computer
Systems, Inc., O'Reilly & Associates, Inc., ArborText, Inc., Fujitsu
Software Corporation, and the Organization for the Advancement of Structured
Information Standards (OASIS); distributable
docbook-dtd40-sgml 1992-2000 HaL Computer Systems, Inc., O'Reilly &
Associates, Inc., ArborText, Inc., Fujitsu Software Corporation, and the
Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards (OASIS);
distributable
docbook-dtd41-sgml Distributable
docbook-dtd41-xml 1992-2000 HaL Computer Systems, Inc., O'Reilly &
Associates, Inc., ArborText, Inc., Fujitsu Software Corporation, Norman Walsh,
and the Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards
(OASIS); distributable
docbook-style-dsssl 1997-2000 Norman Walsh; distributable
docbook-utils Eric Bischoff, Mark Galassi, Jochem Huhmann, Steve Cheng, and
Frederik Fouvry; GPL 2.0
doctool GPL
docview GPL
dump UCB
ed GPL
efax 1999 Ed Casas; GPL
eject Jeff Tranter; GPL.
enscript GPL
ethereal GPL
ext2fs Theodore Y. Ts'o; GPL.
faq GPL
fatfs distributable.
fbset GPL
fdutils GPL
fetchmail GPL/No-Virus
fhs Daniel Quinlan; Distributable
file Ian F. Darwin; distributable.
fileutils GPL
findutils GPL
flex GPL
fltk LGPL; Michael Sweet <mike@easysw.com>
freetype BSD like
freetype2 GPL
gawk GPL
gcc GPL
gd distributable, see gd-readme.txt
gdb GPL
gdbm GPL
gettext GPL
ghostscript Aladdin Enterprises; GPL.
giftrans GPL
glib LGPL
glibc LGPL
gnupg Werner Koch <werner.koch@guug.de>; GPL
gpm GPL
grep GPL
groff GPL
grub GPL
gtk+ LGPL
gtkmm LGPL; Tero Pulkkinen <terop@modeemi.cs.tut.fi>, et al.
gv GPL
gzip GPL
hdparm Mark Lord, freely distributable/useable (see hdparm.lsm)
horde GPL
howto GPL
htdig GPL
hwdata Caldera Systems Inc.
hwprobe 1999-2000, Caldera Systems Inc.
icecast GPL
imap BSD
imlib LGPL
imp GPL
inn Rich Salz; see COPYRIGHT.inn
ipchains GPL
iptables GPL
ipx Greg Page, Caldera, Inc.; distributable.
ipxripd GPL
irda-utils GPL
isapnptools GPL
isdn4k-utils GPL
isp GPL
ispell Pace Willisson, Geoff Kuenning; GPL
jade 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998 James Clark; distributable
jadetex 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000 Sebastian Rahtz; distributable
jakarta-ant Apache Software License
jakarta-tomcat Apache Software License
java Sun; by permission (no source code)
jikes IBM Public License
kbd GPL
kde-i18n The KDE team, GPL and FDL
kdeaddons GPL
kdeadmin2 The KDE team, GPL
kdebase2 The KDE team, GPL
kdecoas GPL
kdeconfig The KDE-Team, Caldera, GPL
kdegraphics2 The KDE team, GPL
kdelibs The KDE-Team, GPL
kdelibs2 The KDE team, GPL
kdemultimedia2 The KDE team, GPL
kdenetwork2 The KDE team, GPL
kdeutils2 The KDE team, GPL
kdialog Matthias Hoelzer-Kluepfel, GPL
kdoc GPL
kdoc2 The KDE team, GPL
kernel-addon misc. distributable
khotplug (c) Caldera Systems Inc. 2000, GPL
kmp_mysql GPL
kmysql GPL
konvert The KDE-Team, GPL
ksaferppp GPL
ksystemsnapshot Klaus Singvogel <klaus@caldera.de>; GPL
ktzset Torsten Duwe; GPL.
kups Michael Goffioul <goffioul@emic.ucl.ac.be>; GPL
kxconfig GPL
ldp GPL
less GPL or Less License
lha 1992 Masaru Oki, freely distributable
libIDL LGPL
libaudiofile LGPL
libcap GPL
libgif LGPL
libident Public domain
libjpeg freely distributable
libmimelib Doug Sauders, Non-Commercial
libmng Gerard Juyn <gerard@libmng.com>, Artistic
libpam GPL or BSD
libpng GPL
libpwdb GPL
libqwsprite Warwick Allison, LGPL
libsasl distributable
libsidplay GPL
libsigc++ LGPL; Karl E. Nelson <kenelson@ece.ucdavis.edu>
libsmallrpc GPL
libsmbclient Caldera Systems
libstdc++-compat GPL
libtiff Freely distributable, (c) 1988-1997 S. Leffler and 1991-1997 SGI
libtool Free Software Foundation, Inc.; GPL.
libuulib GPL
libxml LGPL
libz freely distributable
lilo Werner Almesberger; distributable except second.b, see COPYING.lilo
linux GPL
lizard Caldera Systems Inc.; QPL
logcheck (C) Psionic Software; by permission
logrotate Red Hat Software; GPL.
lrzsz GPL
lsof BSD
ltrace GPL
lynx GPL
m4 Free Software Foundation, Inc.; GPL.
mailcap distributable
mailx BSD
majordomo distributable
make GPL
man John W. Eaton; GPL.
man-pages Several; All freely distributable if nroff source included.
man-pages-de various
man-pages-es various distributable
man-pages-fr various
man-pages-it LDP General Public License
mawk GPL
mc GPL
mesa GPL
mgetty distributable
mimetypes distributable
minicom GPL
mktemp BSD
mm BSD-style
mod_backhand BSD-style
mod_dav Apache-style (see LICENSE.html)
mod_log_spread BSD-style
mod_perl Apache License
mod_roaming BSD-style
mod_ssl BSD-style
modutils GPL
mpg123 non commercial
mscompress GPL; Martin Hinner <mhi@penguin.cz>
mt-st Kai Mäkisara; GPL.
mtabase GPL
mtools Alain Knaff; GPL.
mutt GPL
mysql GPL, client code LGPL
nasm GPL
ncftp Artistic License
ncompress see LZW.INFO
ncurses Free Software Foundation, Inc.; MIT-style, see Copying.
nedit distributable
net-scripts GPL
net-tools GPL
netatalk_asun 1990,1996 Regents of The University of Michigan.
netkit-base BSD
netkit-ftp BSD
netkit-ntalk BSD
netkit-rsh BSD
netkit-rusers BSD
netkit-rwall BSD
netkit-rwho BSD
netkit-telnet BSD
netkit-tftp BSD
netpbm distributable
nfs GPL
nis part BSD, part GPL
nss_ldap LGPL
ntop GPL
openldap distributable
openmotif Open Group Public License
openslp Caldera Systems, Inc (BSD)
openssh BSD
openssl BSD-style
pam_ldap LGPL
parted GPL
patch GPL
pciutils GPL
pcmcia-cs distributable
perl Larry Wall; GNU, Artistic.
perl-SGMLSpm David Megginson; GPL.
perl-modules GNU, Artistic.
php The PHP license
pidentd Public domain
popt Red Hat Software; see COPYING.
portmap-safer GPL
portsentry (C) Psionic Software; by permission
ppp distributable
pptpd GPL
printfilter GPL
procmail distributable
procps GPL
psgml Copyright (C) 1994-1998 Lennart Staflin, GPL
psmisc Werner Almesberger; distributable.
pvm freely distributable
pxe BSD
python Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam; distributable.
python-eclass GPL
qt (C) 1992-1999 Troll Tech AS; free for non-commercial use.
qt2 Troll Tech AS; GPL
qtcups GPL
qtdesigner Troll Tech AS, GPL
quota BSD
raidtools M Zyngier, G Oxman, I Molnar, M d Icaza, E Troan; GPL.
rcs Walter Tichy, Paul Eggert; GPL.
readline Free Software Foundation, Inc.; GPL.
recode GPL
reiserfs-utils GPL
rp-pppoe Roaring Penguin Software, Inc.; GPL.
rpm Red Hat Software, Inc.; GPL.
rpmcompat Red Hat Software, Inc.; GPL.
rstatd GPL
rsync GPL
samba Andrew Tridgell, John H Terpstra; GPL
screen GPL
sed GPL
sendmail OpenSource
setserial Rick Sladkey, Rickard E. Faith, Theodore Ts'o; GPL.
setup public domain
sformat GPL
sgml-common Distributable
sgml-tools GPL
sh-utils GPL
shadow-misc Julianne Frances Haugh; BSD/Artistic
sharutils GPL
slang John E. Davis; GPL.
slocate GPL
sox GPL
spread Spread Concepts LLC
squid GPL
strace distributable
stunnel GPL
sysklogd syslogd: Berkeley, klogd: GPL.
tar GPL
tcltk BSD
tcp_wrappers Wietse Venema; by permission.
tcpdump BSD
tcsh The Regents of the University of California; BSD.
teTeX Lots of people; freely distributable.
termcap free
texinfo GPL
textutils GPL
time Free Software Foundation, Inc.; GPL.
tmake Troll Tech AS; Artistic
traceroute-safer GPL
transfig distributable
tripwire GPL
uemacs licensed shareware, used with author's permission
umsdosfs GPL
unarj (c) 1990-93 Robert K Jung; see COPYING.unarj
unzip distributable, see COPYING.unzip
usbutils GPL
usershare GPL
utempter MIT
util-linux distributable
uucp GPL
vim distributable
vixie-cron Paul Vixie; distributable.
webalizer GPL
webmin Freeware
wget GPL
which GPL
whois BSD
wireless Hewlett Packard Labs., FSF; GPL.
words distributable
wu-ftpd distributable
xemacs GNU
xmbase-grok Thomas_Driemeyer
xntp BSD
xpm MIT
xpp GPL; Till Kamppeter <till.kamppeter@gmx.net>
xselection distributable (see COPYING.xselection)
xterm-color GPL
xtoolwait GPL
zip Mark Adler, Richard B. Wales, Jean-loup Gailly, Onno van der Linden, Kai
Uwe Rommel, Igor Mandrichenko and John Bush; distributable.
zoneinfo Distributable
zoo Rahul Dhesi; distributable.
zsh Paul Falstad; distributable.

$Id: LICENSE.TXT,v 1.1 2001/10/10 14:34:08 eric Exp $


Per the CD ROM in my old Linux notebook, they also used the 2.4 kernel on
OpenLinux 3.1 and the OpenLinux2.4 technology preview that I got as a Shrink
Wrapped package at CompUSA.

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OpenLinux, 2.4 kernel, available July 2003 [large graphic]
Authored by: John Hasler on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 04:52 PM EDT
> I saw no wording telling me that it was for prior customers
> only.

I don't see why that would make any difference anyway.

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most expensive freeware ever?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 05:33 PM EDT
i love that the license is freeware, but that it shows a cost of $99.00!

too funny.

sum.zero

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Freeware License ?
Authored by: tizan on Thursday, June 22 2006 @ 08:12 PM EDT
On the Tucow image i see the license labelled as freeware...
Does that mean that all the GPL'ed software was distributed without source or
means to access code ? hence violation of GPL.


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