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AU House Standing Committee on Legal & Constitutional Affairs Report: They Get It |
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Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 06:50 AM EST
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Open Source Law's Brendan Scott has a report for us from down under: I'm pleased to report that the Australian House Standing Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs has presented its *unanimous* report on exceptions to Technological Protection Measures and it is largely good news for open source and bad news for cartels.
The report is available here.
The report makes recommendations consistent with those requested by the Australian Open Source Industry Association (OSIA Limited).
I haven't had a chance to digest it all, but here are some of the more interesting recommendations:
#2 - the definition of technological protection measure/effective technological measure clearly require a direct link between access control and copyright protection. (this is the nub of the Stevens v Sony decision)
#3 - ensure that access control measures should be related to the protection of copyright, rather than to the restriction of competition in markets for non-copyright goods and services.
#4 - region coding TPMs be specifically excluded from the definition of effective technological measure in the legislation implementing the Australia-United States Free Trade Agreement - In other words, (if implemented) you can play DVDs on Linux!
#6 - there be exceptions for interoperability, specifically for interoperability between a program and data, for removing involuntarily installed software (think Sony DRM), for security and for individual privacy online;
#11 - clarification aimed at permitting the noncommercial creation of circumvention measures to make use of the exceptions.
#14 - exception for investigating infringement but only where a court makes such an order (I'm not sure whether I should count this as good or bad)
#16 - that the government monitor threats against legitimate security researchers
#28 - access to software protected by obsolete TPMs It's nice to start the day with some good news, eh? Of course, this is a report, not law, but the good news I see is that more and more, people are coming to understand tech issues, particularly issues that impact FOSS, and that inevitably leads to a more balanced viewpoint.
As an example of how extreme technological protection measures can be, on page 117 of the full report, we find that the committee realized that unless there is an exception made, someone who wished to investigate copyright infringement of his or her own copyrighted work would be breaking the law to do so, if it meant bypassing such a TPM. So one of the exceptions being proposed is "4.8 - Non-infringing use – the use of copyright material by a copyright owner in this context will not be infringing if done for the purposes of s.43 of the Copyright Act 1968." Of course, a mere child might notice that a law that has the effect of outlawing a person's being able to investigate infringement of his own copyrighted works, or making him pay a licensing fee to do so, is a law that has gone over the top to begin with. That's the real problem here. This love the entertainment industry has for DRM and TPM, like all toxic love affairs, is costing the world already, and it's only just begun. The solution, in my view, is to refuse to buy anything that I feel is unreasonably offered. The entertainment cartels can do whatever they please, but all they can do is make an offer of goods. If I don't like the terms, I'm under no obligation to accept their offer and buy their goods. Neither are you. It's a free market after all. And I see no point in complaining about such terms and then accepting them, just to listen to some music or read a book or whatever. If I do that, they'll certainly never understand. For that reason, I'll never buy a "Trusted Computing" computer of any kind, because I don't like being spied on. That's what those chips do and I don't like it. Why would I give them money to do something to me I don't like? Some things are just obvious. When the entertainment industry shut down Napster and began suing grandmothers and children, I stopped buying their goods. I don't approve of such behavior and while I believe in respecting copyright, I think they crossed a line. I don't like doing business with people who behave heartlessly. (Magnatune "We Are Not Evil" founder John Buckman lists some other issues here that inspired him to start Maganatune.) When iTunes first came onto the scene, I thought they made a fair offer, and so I bought from them. Then when iTunes later changed its terms midstream, I stopped buying from them too. I thought I'd simply die without my music, but here I am, still in the land of the living, so I conclude we can say no to terms we find offensive and we won't die. If enough folks do just that, it would balance out the marketplace, which at the moment is seriously tipped against the best interest of consumers.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 07:43 AM EST |
"For that reason, I'll never buy a "Trusted Computing" computer
of any kind, because I don't like being spied on."[ Reply to This | # ]
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- Yabut... - Authored by: Jude on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 08:41 AM EST
- Yabut... - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 08:58 AM EST
- Of course we will have a choice. - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 10:07 AM EST
- Yabut... - Authored by: seeks2know on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 11:52 AM EST
- Yabut... - Authored by: Jude on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 02:37 PM EST
- Yabut... - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 03 2006 @ 05:19 AM EST
- IBMs Power chip - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 04:10 PM EST
- Yabut... - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 03 2006 @ 03:55 AM EST
- My fear... - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 09:11 AM EST
- Gets my vote! - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 10:13 AM EST
- The "Turn 'insert contries name here' computers off" command. - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 11:56 AM EST
- DRM has no root user - Authored by: kawabago on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 06:20 PM EST
- Well said. - Authored by: AJWM on Friday, March 03 2006 @ 12:27 AM EST
- Well said (question about laptops) - Authored by: Tomka_Gergely on Friday, March 03 2006 @ 06:43 AM EST
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Authored by: MathFox on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 07:48 AM EST |
For other Open Source and Legal issues...
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When people start to comment on the form of a message, it is a sign that they
have problems to accept the truth of the message.
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- "Paying Downloaders duped by Music Industry" (repost) - Authored by: MathFox on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 07:52 AM EST
- Interesting comments from UK patent investigation - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 10:25 AM EST
- Wall St. Journal (yesterday editorial) attacked the patent mess and blamed the lawyers! - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 10:52 AM EST
- Yawn - Authored by: jplatt39 on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 11:12 AM EST
- Microsoft Paranoia? - Authored by: stephen_A on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 12:11 PM EST
- Nnnnnffff. - Authored by: kozmcrae on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 02:05 PM EST
- Microsoft alleges EU colluded with rivals - Authored by: pfusco on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 02:06 PM EST
- South Africa challenges XML-based word processing patent - Authored by: John_Doe#1 on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 02:56 PM EST
- Australian Spammer in Court -- day 3 - Authored by: Crocodile_Dundee on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 05:53 PM EST
- Slingbox - Authored by: tredman on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 08:09 PM EST
- Subpoean/Deposition for Michael Sean Wilson - Authored by: mwexler on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 11:22 PM EST
- Off topic thread - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 03 2006 @ 03:20 AM EST
- TPM = Trojan Present Module? / TC = Trusted censorship(censorchip) - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 03 2006 @ 05:59 AM EST
- Off topic thread - Fair Use and Free Speech - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 03 2006 @ 07:33 AM EST
- Why weren't Canopy/Caldera/SCOG interested in Tarantella? - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 03 2006 @ 09:31 AM EST
- A Question - Not Exactly OT - Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Tuesday, March 07 2006 @ 10:24 PM EST
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Authored by: darksepulcher on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 07:49 AM EST |
Just because we always have one of these for PJ's benefit.
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Had I but time--As this fell Sergeant, Death
Is strict in his arrest--O, I could tell you--
But let it be.
(Hamlet, Act V Scene 2)
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Authored by: Wol on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 07:53 AM EST |
The problem with that, unfortunately, is they then point at their declining
sales and scream "PIRACY!!!"
Cheers,
Wol[ Reply to This | # ]
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- I'm under no obligation to accept their offer and buy their goods. - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 08:07 AM EST
- I'm under no obligation to accept their offer and buy their goods. - Authored by: Wol on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 08:54 AM EST
- RE: G&S - Pirates of Penzance - Authored by: jimwelch on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 09:36 AM EST
- I'm under no obligation to accept their offer and buy their goods. - Authored by: PJ on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 09:50 AM EST
- I'm under no obligation to accept their offer and buy their goods. - Authored by: jiri on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 10:10 AM EST
- I'm under no obligation to accept their offer and buy their goods. - Authored by: DL on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 11:19 AM EST
- I'm under no obligation to accept their offer and buy their goods. - Authored by: micheal on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 11:33 AM EST
- Mirroring Groklaw - Authored by: SpaceLifeForm on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 02:27 PM EST
- I'm under no obligation to accept their offer and buy their goods. - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 02:27 PM EST
- Alexa shows traffic bump - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 04:09 PM EST
- license - Authored by: grouch on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 05:02 PM EST
- license - Authored by: PJ on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 06:26 PM EST
- license - Authored by: PJ on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 06:42 PM EST
- license - Authored by: grouch on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 08:54 PM EST
- license - Authored by: jog on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 09:15 PM EST
- license - Authored by: Aim Here on Friday, March 03 2006 @ 05:30 AM EST
- license - Authored by: PJ on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 07:00 PM EST
- license - Authored by: grouch on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 09:51 PM EST
- oops - Authored by: PJ on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 11:08 PM EST
- some grins - Authored by: grouch on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 11:10 PM EST
- What, exactly is the problem? - Authored by: darthaggie on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 05:46 PM EST
- I'm under no obligation to accept their offer and buy their goods. - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 11:20 PM EST
- I'm under no obligation to accept their offer and buy their goods. - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 09:58 AM EST
- Why New York? - Authored by: joef on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 10:56 AM EST
- I'm under no obligation to accept their offer and buy their goods. - Authored by: James McGuigan on Monday, March 06 2006 @ 06:47 AM EST
- They screamed PIRACY - Authored by: WhiteFang on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 08:11 AM EST
- Blank media levee - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 11:09 AM EST
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 08:06 AM EST |
...I'll never buy a "Trusted Computing" computer of any kind, because I don't
like being spied on...
If you recently bought a computer, it's likely that
it already *has* a TPM chip in it. This is actually not a problem in itself
(there are *some* good uses for that chip). The problem happens when your CPU
refuses to boot the OS unless that OS has been signed or when the OS refuses to
execute a program or read data because of the TPM chip.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 08:12 AM EST |
Trusted computing is not necessarily spying you. It can have several uses. The
first is to attest that you are running only "certified" software on
"certified" hardware. The second that you are also a
"certified" user. They can be coupled with a form of restriction: if
the software/user is not "certified", block the computer.
The spying is an altogether different issue. Windows and Media Player call home
without trusted computing and/or DRM. It is very easy to implement a microspy in
the northbridge of a computer that sends all what goes through it to the US
governement or the CIA without any form of trusted computing. You'll probably be
unable to know that it's there unless you manage to intercept its mode of
communication (presumably radio waves).
The worst issue with "trusted computing" is to understand it to mean
that your computer is to be trusted, which is absolutely false: "trusted
computing" means that somebeody (actually several bodies) certifies that
you are using a platform (hardware+software) according to his/her (their)
wishes, no more, no less.[ Reply to This | # ]
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- Trusted computing and spying - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 08:49 AM EST
- Trusted computing and spying - Authored by: John Hasler on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 09:04 AM EST
- Unfortunately.. - Authored by: RPN on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 09:50 AM EST
- Trusted computing and spying - Authored by: PJ on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 09:54 AM EST
- It does mean trusting the computer, to your new overlords - Authored by: evbergen on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 10:05 AM EST
- Trusted computing and spying - Authored by: MORB on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 10:48 AM EST
- Trusted computing and spying - Authored by: Chris Lingard on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 11:52 AM EST
- Who certifies the certifiers? - Authored by: Nick_UK on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 04:39 PM EST
- Trusted computing and spying - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 03 2006 @ 04:33 AM EST
- Trusted computing and spying - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 06 2006 @ 06:04 AM EST
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 09:44 AM EST |
I thought I'd simply die without my music, but here I am, still in
the land of the living, so I conclude we can say no to terms we find offensive
and we won't die. If enough folks do just that, it would balance out the
marketplace, which at the moment is seriously tipped against the best interest
of consumers.
Same thing for me. However, I'm not sure the music
industry is not pointing out that decline in sales to put the burden on "rampant
piracy", and yet, I don't (and you don't either, most probably) pirate
music.
What we need is a reliable, independent study asking former music
consumers why they have stopped buying records. There may be multiple reasons
for this, including the development of P2P, but I am quite sure P2P is not the
main reason behind this drop in music sales. But who, among the music industry,
is willing to lead a study which would end up proving their business model is
obsolete ?
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 10:15 AM EST |
It's going to be like printers.
'Low-bid' printers take expensive ink
cartridges, and
print identifying information on every page so 'they' know
who
printed it and when. 'Free' printers (which do not
suffer from those problems)
are more expensive.
'Low-bid' computers will get a subsidy from the RIAA,
MPAA, AOL. ITunes, etc. who all want you to be able to
consume their service
in rights-managed fashion. 'Free'
computers will be more expensive.
Whether
you can legally convert a 'low-bid' computer
into a 'free' computer is anyone's
guess. Can you do it
with printers ?
For me, I'll pay the price of freedom.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 02:18 PM EST |
The <a
href="http://www.computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/UNID/07512FA3A841F42ECC256EE8
001253A0">goverment supports and promotes</a>
the sharing of open source apps between agencies.
<a href="http://matrix.squiz.net/">This product</a> is
just one example. I understand that it is now the most used CMS in australia and
is also now being used accross the ditch at some <a
href="http://www.radionz.co.nz">high profile</a> sites in NZ.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 02:49 PM EST |
Item #4 states - region coding TPMs be specifically excluded from the definition
of effective technological measure in the legislation implementing the
Australia-United States Free Trade Agreement - In other words, (if implemented)
you can play DVDs on Linux!
I don't think this has anything to do with Linux, but rather the region codes
that don't permit you to play an Aussie DVD in America, etc.
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- Region coding - Authored by: DL on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 02:58 PM EST
- Linux - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 04:10 PM EST
- Linux - Authored by: John Hasler on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 04:21 PM EST
- Meaning - Authored by: Tweeker on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 04:33 PM EST
- Linux - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 04 2006 @ 12:02 AM EST
- Region coding - Authored by: ine on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 10:10 PM EST
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Authored by: Observer on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 05:00 PM EST |
I was with you up until the point where you said, "If I don't like their offer,
I can refuse to buy it." Technically, that's true, but it still has little or no
impact on those making the offer. Unfortunately, the market (and
decisions as to what constitutes a "reasonable" offer) is driven by the
majority. The majority generally doesn't understand the deeper technological
issues and cares little about DRM. To some extent, SONY was right when they
said, "People don't care that we've installed the equivalent of a 'root
kit' on their computer." Think herds of sheep. As long as they've got food and
water (and a cool video game now and then), they are happy. The number of us
more technically aware people who refuse to buy DRMed products is still at the
noise level for the marketing people in these companies.
The problem is the
fact that real innovation is driven by the tiny minority at the head of
the curve, and it's this tiny minority that is being hemmed in and
disenfranchised by these "protection" schemes. It's the tiny minority on the
cutting edge that are out there trying new things, plugging things where they're
not supposed to be plugged in, bending the rules, looking at problems in a new
light. These are the people who are being slapped down and told to
BEHAVE!
The hope is that, as that minority keeps making noise, the rest of
the herd starts to notice, and sooner or later, enough of them just might start
listening and changing their habits to make the marketers sit up and take
notice.
--- The Observer [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 06:26 PM EST |
sorry but I looked. Really I did, and I didn,t see a "contributed by
PJ".
Maybe it was there and I just missed it.
That being said, is it really copyright infringement?[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 07:36 PM EST |
rather than to the restriction of competition in markets for
non-copyright goods and services.
This does not sound so great
for iTunes seeing that they even changed their implimentation to lock others out
of the market. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: ewe2 on Thursday, March 02 2006 @ 10:15 PM EST |
Of course the normal course of events in current Australian politics is for the
industry lobby to bury such a report. I don't however see how they're going to
get around the ACCC unless some truly creative new guidelines appear.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Steve Martin on Friday, March 03 2006 @ 07:14 AM EST |
If enough folks do just that, it would balance out the
marketplace, which at the moment is seriously tipped against the best interest
of consumers.
I just yesterday received a shipment
from Amazon containing the release of season three of the TV show "News Radio"
(which I enjoy very much). I happened to look at the back of the DVD package
before opening the shrinkwrap, and saw two things that stopped me dead in my
tracks:
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A SonyPictures.com icon
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A small icon that says
"These discs are copy protected."
Great. Another
copy-protected Sony product.
I frequently use the DVD drive in my
laptop to play DVDs while on the road. However, I'm afraid to put this one in
the drive. I checked the Amazon Web site for this product, and while they do
prominently state that this disc contains a technology called "RCE" (enhanced
region coding), it does not say one word about copy
protection.
I'm debating whether simply to return the disc to Amazon
and ask for my money back.
--- "When I say something, I put my name
next to it." -- Isaac Jaffee, "Sports Night" [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 04 2006 @ 05:51 AM EST |
I don't have to buy DRM material to listen to my favorite music. I copied the
records to tape, so I don't have to worry about wearing them out. You don't
remember those days?
Those were the golden years of music.
If you have a record player and records, guard them with your life!!!![ Reply to This | # ]
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