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So, How Was Your Day?
Monday, November 01 2004 @ 09:15 PM EST

So, I get home from an unbelievably hectic day, and what do I find? A notice that TechWeb readers have submitted their choices for their Best Independent Tech Blogs of the year, and out of nearly a thousand entries, Groklaw made the top ten. I figured you'd like to know. You can vote for yourselves if you wish, or one of the others on the list, if you prefer. I'm just letting you know what the notice said. Considering that Slashdot is on the list too, I'm thinking we should say that just being nominated is a great honor.

: )

And to tell you the truth, whoever did this, I really think it was sweet. Thank you.

Oh, and SCO's website isn't going up today. Maybe never. They say they have "legal and management concerns about the content of the Web site". Maybe they figured I got libeled enough for one day.

So, how was your day?

  


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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: peragrin on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 09:38 PM EST
Um http://prosco.net/ is live.

Of course it is useless and points to a windows 200 server running aphache. But
what else can you have with SCO around??

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I thought once I was found but it was only a dream.

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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 09:41 PM EST
You got my vote :-)

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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: MajorDisaster on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 09:43 PM EST
Congratulations PJ! I still say there should be a park named in your honor when
the day is done. This site and all of the contributors are #1 in my book.
Congratulatiuons to all!

---
Death twitches my ear, "Live", he says "I am Coming."

--Virgil--

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Once again, Nice Job and Well done, PJ. (eom)
Authored by: AllParadox on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 09:48 PM EST


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All is paradox: I no longer practice law, so this is just another layman's
opinion. For a Real Legal Opinion, buy one from a licensed Attorney

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Congratulations to PJ here please
Authored by: josmith42 on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 09:53 PM EST

If you'd like to congratulate PJ, why not put your message in this thread. I bet there are going to be many of them. :-)

I'll start. Congratulations, PJ! And I had a pretty busy day too. Mondays are usually pretty busy for me, but this one was unusually busy!

---
Forty-two: the answer to the question of life, the universe, and everything.

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New Legal Issue to Grok -- Close Your Eyes, Hold Your Nose...
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 09:54 PM EST
Anybody want to comment on Election Litigation? Can't wait for the filings next
week -- should be enough Lawyering to keep five Groklaws busy...



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InfoWorld Ad
Authored by: rand on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 10:21 PM EST
I don't know which advertising you see on InfoWorld (its probably dynamic) but I
get a wonderful IBM piece that starts out

"Your customers are trying to tell you something"

Yeehaw!

---
The wise man is not embarrassed or angered by lies, only disappointed. (IANAL
and so forth and so on)

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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: kjb on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 10:38 PM EST
Congratulations, PJ!
Professionalism, leadership and dedication.
(tear in the eye, lump in the throat)
"Makes me proud to be a Groklawer"
kjb

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"No! Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try."
- Yoda

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SCO's Web Site
Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 10:42 PM EST
I'm speculating that their management and legal issue is that their legal team
threatened to quit if they did such a stupid thing as let management write
anything for the site.

We'll never know what with privilege.

---
Rsteinmetz

"I could be wrong now, but I don't think so."

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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: horedson on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 10:44 PM EST
Well PJ ... you have done a super job reporting
and analyzing some very important issues.

Thanks, and keep it up!

... Hank


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... Hank

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How was my day? I teach school...
Authored by: Night Flyer on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 10:51 PM EST
The kids were on a sugar high... (Does bouncing off the walls mean anything to
any of you?) Then there was the inevitable crash... (Maybe I should have
stayed home.)

Just possibly there was some relation to the fact that last evening was
Hallowe'en. There were candy wrappers all over the floor afterwards.
------------------------

Congrats to PJ and all on the nomination.

------------------------

As I say: Veritas Vincit: Truth Conquers

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So, this is your year, PJ!
Authored by: bbaston on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 10:52 PM EST
So proud of you and your recognition is undeniably deserved.

Top 10? No way, Pamela. You are on Mount Everest! You are the ONE!

---
Proud-of-you comment with my vote for Groklaw:
In May of 2003, Pamela Jones inadvertently created something of extreme value to all of Techdom. Then she improved it. You might say her efforts are priceless, and certainly worth more than the five billion dollars SCO 'requests' of IBM.

PJ's Groklaw (and her auxiliary sites) comprise the world's first collaborative legal research effort, proving once again that honest journalism combined with collaborative research, openness and light are more powerful than the Devil, SCO and Microsoft combined.

Thus Groklaw will be remembered in history. Groklaw and its creator Pamela Jones are hands down winners of tech-related blogs. Appreciation, respect and honor belong to Groklaw for 2004!

bbaston
part-time but proud-of-PJ Groklawyer

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Ben
-------------
IMBW, IANAL2, IMHO, IAVO,
imaybewrong, iamnotalawyertoo, inmyhumbleopinion, iamveryold, hairysmileyface,

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Utter speculation on SCOinfo
Authored by: tangomike on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 10:57 PM EST
I figured they would try slipping some of that 'sealed' stuff' in ("Ooops,
our mistake; he he.") and the legal team finally had enough of their
stupidity, artificial OR natural.

Some poor webmaster would have gotten slapped, or so they were thinking.

Their various announcements show that they're dying to spread some more
misinformation. Anything to get the SCOX price back up for a bit would do, but
press releases aren't working anymore.

Watch for another court filing real soon, possibly timed to try to misdirect
attention from an impending judgement.



---
The SCO Group's secret project to develop Artificial Stupidity has obviously
succeeded!

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I really think it was sweet. Thank you
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 11:05 PM EST
No, thank you PJ.
Excellent job, well done.


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SCO had second thoughts? I didn't know they had ANY thoughts!
Authored by: StLawrence on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 11:08 PM EST
If I was an ignorant observer just stumbling onto this scene,
I would quickly conclude that SCO was actually a Groklaw
supporter and that the announcement of their "alternative"
site was just a scam to advertise and promote Groklaw and
drive more users to the Groklaw site. Knowing that SCO is
not really a Groklaw supporter, I can only say that SCO (with
the inadvertent assistance of Maureen) has backfired yet
again. Every time I read about SCO, they're talking about
Groklaw. The repeated stupidity of Darl & company surely
dwarfs any previous serial acts of stupidity ever perpetrated
by any organization, ever.

PJ, care to share the increase in readership numbers over
the past few weeks?

And of course Groklaw owes a big thank-you to Darl and
Maureen, and any other reporters that bolstered Groklaw
with the reporting of this non-story. Thanks, Darl!
Thanks Maureen! Keep up the work!

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Scoinfo foolishness.
Authored by: mobrien_12 on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 11:15 PM EST
I really don't get it. What does SCO think it's going to do exactly? Just put
up legal documents? Quite frankly, that would go over like Ben Stein reading
the Telephone Book.

And who would want to read it? Are there legions of fans of Darl and his
unsubstantiated jihad against open source?

It's also really very puzzling why they put this on a Windows box. At first, I
thought they might have just rented a "placeholder" server from
another company but traceroute and whois results indicate that it really is a
canopy server.


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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 11:18 PM EST

Congratulations, PJ

Just as a matter of curiosity, have we upstaged Linus and Linux yet? If not, do we have a schedule for doing so?

Poor Linus. He doesn't stand a chance, I suspect. Doesn't toot his own horn enough, I think.

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Just don't get carried away ...
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 11:22 PM EST
Some sage advice on the Slashdot poll page:

"This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers,
dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important,
you're insane"

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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: rjamestaylor on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 11:22 PM EST
My day was pretty so-so. Met with the new owners of the company, learned about
benefits, picked up a new project, heard about my son's misbehaviour at
pre-school, lowered the offering price on the California house yet again,
cleaned the dishes, changed a diaper, read about Samuel to the boys, sat down
and began reading Groklaw.

Pretty normal.

Thanks, PJ, for making a place where a guy can be engaged in the battle for
Software Freedom in his between times.

RJamesTaylor

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SCO delenda est! Salt their fields!

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Congratulations!
Authored by: digger53 on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 11:22 PM EST
A well-deserved nomination ... and win if Groklaw wins.

I'm having a good day having gotten a properly functioning
Debian installation up & running this weekend & enjoying
it today.

Learning of Groklaw's nomination & seeing that SCO closed
below $3.00 ...again makes it a grand day.

Plus nobody has libelled me, or if so, I'm blissfully
unaware of it & might be indifferent if I were. I got the
impression on one site that ... a certain Jeff M. has
attacked you &/or Groklaw. If so, it's a more of a
reflection on the attacker's character, or lack thereof:
remember, if I point a finger at you, there' three pointed
back at me.

Enjoy the well-deserved recognition.

Jim

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When all else fails, follow directions.

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St.Lawrence called it...
Authored by: Latesigner on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 11:41 PM EST
" Oh, and SCO's website isn't going up today. Maybe never. They say they
have "legal and management concerns about the content of the Web
site". Maybe they figured I got libeled enough for one day."

You're the guy who said it wouldn't happen and you were right.
What did you figure out that the rest of us missed ?

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They chickened out PJ.
Authored by: Brian S. on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 11:42 PM EST
Congratulations. I've voted.

I think you frightened them days ago. They never intended to do this since they
realised they'd loose despite all they've been saying last week.

They realised they'd have to do something and that explains the farce of today.
They found an old Windoze box that was parked up since someone left, reconfiged
and plugged it into the Lan.

Any better explanation?

Brian S.

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10 REM any new ideas? 20 Goto 10
Authored by: belzecue on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 11:42 PM EST
SCO's infinite loop:

1) Make a press release about The New Stuff

2) Do lots of press interviews about The New Stuff, how important The New Stuff
is, and how SCO will be King of The World once The New Stuff arrives

3) Wait for a bump in stock price

4) Miss The Deadline and pretend you no longer care about The New Stuff because
now Things Have Changed and because of that we will need some New Stuff.

5) Goto 1

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Lets not forget to thank SCO!
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 11:48 PM EST
If not for them Groklaw would never have made top ten! So thanks Dahl, David and
the rest of the team at SCO for the great job you've been doing.

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Are you sure they have legal advice?
Authored by: ile on Monday, November 01 2004 @ 11:57 PM EST
I am befuddled by one fact regarding scoinfo. They point to a repository of documents, in pdf format (they have no volunteers to transcribe, I guess...), which is headed by a description of their claims against IBM: "SCO Files Suit Against IBM Citing Misappropriation of Trade Secrets, Tortious Interference, Unfair Competition, and Breach of Contract".

Which means they have not even updated that to the second amended complaint (unless in the third amended complaint they have reintroduced the Trade Secrets claim, of course).

So they are telling the world that they have a claim against IBM that in fact is not before the court? Talk about Lanham being dropped by IBM later...

And congrats all the way, PJ, for sure!

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Why do they need *ANOTHER* domain???
Authored by: Walter Dnes on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 12:08 AM EST
One thing I've never understood; they already have ir.sco.com. Isn't ir.sco.com
supposed to be their soapbox? So what is the point of another domain already?

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Congratulations. . .
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 12:16 AM EST
. . .To P.J. and all the volunteers which make Groklaw what it is.

Groklaw stands head and shoulders above all others.

krp

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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: Greebo on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 01:20 AM EST
You just got my vote PJ.

---
Greebo

------------------------
PJ has permission to use my posts for commercial use.

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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: blacklight on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 07:16 AM EST
"The name [www.prosco.net] was changed to support the purpose of the Web site," she said. "The purpose is to provide factual [my italics] information regarding SCO's litigation, thus the name SCOinfo.com." SCOG spokeswoman Fernandes

Groklaw, as an analysis and research site, would be more than happy than have www.scoinfo.net as another source of information. It's too bad that SCOG's new site is not going to take off any time soon: some Einstein at SCOG must have realized that SCOG would be just feeding their corporate arms and legs to the insatiably hungry groklaw analysis/research mincing machine. [Deep sigh] Yet another tour de force by SCOG has turned a magisterial tour de farce: and the poor, innocent, wrongly accused [hey, I gotta milk all the public sympathy I can get even if it's all theatrical and crocodile tears!] groklaw community stands to be blamed again for that latest debacle.

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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: blacklight on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 07:20 AM EST
Groklaw making the list of the top ten weblogs? Knowing that SCOG is reading
groklaw, I am adding insult to injury by shamelessly hitting SCOG for donations
to groklaw on groklaw!

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So how was Darl's day?
Authored by: WhiteFang on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 08:02 AM EST
From the article in Inforworld:

"Nearly one month after promising to launch the Web site, which was to
provide information on SCO's various legal disputes, a number of undisclosed
issues are causing the company to have second thoughts on the project, said
Janielle Fernandes, a spokeswoman for the Lindon, Utah software vendor.
"It's still up for debate whether the Web site will ever go up," she
said."

It's difficult to put up a website where all the 'official' content from
courtrooms clearly demonstrates you're a pack of lying cheats and were your
commentary will be mercilessly shredded for the pack of spin lies it is.

In effect, SCOX has no content to put up which won't make them look worse, one
way or the other.

Also, any 'proofs' they put up showing alledged copyright infringement {there
isn't any} or contract violations {there isn't any} etc is simply going to raise
big legal questions as to why they've yet to show any of these in court. Despite
being compelled to do so.

In other words, SCOX has no content to put up!

Message to Billy G.: The SCOX case has been one of the strongest and positive
advertisments for Linux ever! How do you feel about your catspaw today?

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The best things in life
Authored by: inode_buddha on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 08:06 AM EST
includes the recognition of one's peers, just IMHO.
Way to go, PJ!

---
"When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price." -- Richard M. Stallman

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Darl's Motto
Authored by: Jude on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 08:26 AM EST
"Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time"

This seems to apply to just about every move SCO has made with Darl at the helm.
None of this guy's hunches ever seem to pay off. I wonder if he's ever going
to learn to think before taking action.

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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: icebarron on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 08:32 AM EST
I have come to the conclusion that this whole FUD war was started as a money
making con based on the prior work of DRDOS and MSDOS litigation.
Caldera/Novell/Canopy won a ton of money because M$ tried to keep them out of
the market with illegal tactics and were caught with their pants down in and out
of court.

Caldera was a proxy for Novell/Canopy
Oldsco Newsco is a proxy for M$ and canopy

I truly believe that M$ bought A Unixware source license, poured over the code,
and decided to fight a proxy war with IBM/NOVELL/DC/AZ in the hopes of finding
something amiss that they could play out in court theatrics(sp) to win another
ton of money. Every ounce of evidence to the contrary that GNU/Linux was started
by reputable organizations/individuals and has continued to this day is IMO just
more sauce for the goose. The FUDsters have laid a lead egg on this on. They
chose to go after honorable people with the same intent that was taken with
BillyG's company. Now I have to ask the obligatory question. In whose mind could
just such a plot have hatched, and other than a few top exec's where is all the
promise of large settlements now? Let's find away to unseal the BSD/ATT case,
get an independant company to verify the entire code base as to what is
copywrited/trade secreted/etc. Let the Unix operating system stand or fall on
its own merits. All that is closed should remain so, and all that is public
domain should be declared so and left that way.

Dan
Peace to one and all

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Who is Janielle Fernandes
Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 09:49 AM EST
Infoworld said SCOG's spokesperson was Janielle Fernandes. Who is she and where
did she come from? Where's Blake?

---
Rsteinmetz

"I could be wrong now, but I don't think so."

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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 10:07 AM EST
I voted for Groklaw, my comments I added are below:

"I am fascinated by what Groklaw has accomplished, and how I think it
represents the next generation of journalism around the world. Instead of just
writing blurbs in limited space in daily pubs around the world, journalists will
eventually move towards creating really detailed, in depth analysis and
reporting on events.

Groklaw is a shining example of what somebody who cares about an issue can
accomplish with the power of the internet.

It has done what mainstream journalists were not able to, and that's provide
real information about something. Cheers to Groklaw!!"

Tim S.

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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 10:20 AM EST
Just out of curiosity, I typed in www.prosco.com.

I found a web page with the following in the upper left hand side:

"This domain is for sale!"

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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: roman_mir on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 11:21 AM EST
PJ, congratulations.

Since this topic is a little lighter than the others, here is a funny story for
you:


Next time you think you have had a bad day at work, think about this guy...

Brian is a commercial saturation diver for Global Divers out of Louisiana and
performs underwater repairs on offshore drilling rigs. Below is an email he sent
to his sister. Anytime you think you have had a bad day at the office, remember
this letter....True story.

April 1998

Hi Sue,

Just another note from your bottom dwelling brother Last week I had a bad day at
the office. Before I can tell you what happened to me, I first must bore you
with a few technicalities of my job. As you know my office lies at the bottom of
the sea. I wear a suit to the office. It's a wetsuit. This time of year the
water is quite cool. So what we do to keep warm is this:

We have a diesel powered industrial water heater. This $20,000 piece of crap
sucks the water out of the sea. It heats it to a delightful temp. It then pumps
it down to the diver through a garden hose which is taped to the air hose. Now
this sounds like a damn good plan, and I've used it several times with no
complaints. What I do, when I get to the bottom and start working, is I take the
hose and stuff it down the back of my neck. This floods my whole suit with warm
water. It's like working in a Jacuzzi.

Everything was going well until all of a sudden, my ass started to itch. So, of
course, I scratched it. This only made things worse. Within a few seconds my ass
started to burn. I pulled the hose out from my back, but the damage was done. In
agony I realized what had happened. The hot water machine had sucked up a
jellyfish and pumped it into my suit. This is even worse than the poison ivy you
once had under a cast.

Now I had that hose down my back. I don't have any hair on my back, so the
jellyfish couldn't get stuck to my back. My ass crack was not as fortunate. When
I scratched what I thought was an itch, I was actually grinding the jellyfish
into my ass. I informed the dive supervisor of my dilemma over the communicator.
His instructions were unclear due to the fact that he, along with 5 other
divers, were laughing hysterically. Needless to say I aborted the dive. I was
instructed to make 3 agonizing in-water decompression stops totaling 35 minutes
before I could come to the surface for my chamber dry decompression. I got to
the surface wearing nothing but my brass helmet. My suit and gear were tied to
the bell. When I got on board the medic, with tears of laughter running down his
face, handed me a tube of cream and told me to shove it "up my ass"
when I get in the chamber. The cream put the fire out, but I couldn't shit for
two days because my asshole was swollen shut.

I later found out that this could easily have been prevented if the suction hose
was placed on the leeward side of the ship. Anyway, the next time you have a bad
day at the office, think of me. Think about how much worse your day would be if
you were to shove a jellyfish up your ass. I hope you have no bad days at the
office. But if you do, I hope this will make more tolerable. Take care, and I
hope to hear from you soon.

Love, Brian

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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 11:58 AM EST
Woo, congrats! ^_^ You surely deserve it, too, and you'd also deserve to win!

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prosco.net
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 12:35 PM EST
Why bother to create prosco when you have
Groklaw?

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So, How Was Your Day?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, November 02 2004 @ 03:30 PM EST
From this article on how SCO isn't going do its website after all:

"Started shortly after the 2003 launch of SCO's multi-billion dollar lawsuit against IBM, Groklaw began as a Web log for Linux enthusiast Pamela Jones, a paralegal working for a law firm at the time. It has evolved into an open-source project itself, where legal filings are meticulously dissected by an army of volunteers."

That is about as concise description of Groklaw as I have seen

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