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| Larry Lessig Interviews David Boies in NYC Sept. 20 |
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Friday, August 06 2004 @ 03:48 PM EDT
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Some of you may live in the NYC area and therefore might be interested in attending this event a reader just brought to my attention.
David Boies will be at the 92nd Street Y on September 20, at
8:15 PM. He will be interviewed by Lawrence Lessig. A newsletter about it says
he will discuss his career including the MS case and
the Gore/Florida "recount frenzy". He probably can't talk about the SCO case much, since it is ongoing, so don't get your hopes up on that.
Cost is $25 for the one lecture. It is part of a 3-part series ($65) with Jeff Bezos (Nov 7) and Ray
Kurzweil (Mar 23 '05) as the others. It is sponsored by
Wired magazine, so you generally get a free issue as
you enter, I'm told. While the Y does sell tickets on their
website (with a surcharge), it isn't
listed there yet. Buy by phone (same surcharge) at
212-415-5500.
If any of you do go, please take notes. If they permit recording, please, with permission only, do so. If, afterward, you get a chance, ask the principals also if it's all right for us to do a transcript. We need permission from both of them and from the Y or Wired. But notes are always legal, and you can send me your impressions. There are no IP chains on such thoughts yet.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 06 2004 @ 03:52 PM EDT |
I've finally figured it out.
SCO aren't interested in Linux, UNIX, AIX or Dynix.
It's all a scheme to get people to pay $25 to hear Boies speak.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 06 2004 @ 03:54 PM EDT |
I hope that its better than the NYNMA (New York New Media) discussion between
Lessig and Valenti.
What a waste of time that was, as there was no debate whatsoever.
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| Authored by: winnetuxet on Friday, August 06 2004 @ 03:56 PM EDT |
| Right Here [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: webster on Friday, August 06 2004 @ 04:00 PM EDT |
This will be 5 days after the possibly fateful PSJ hearing. It is doubtful that
he will even attend. But if he does, maybe LL can get some courthouse steps
statements out of him. He has confidentiality and privilege strictures on him
so he can't say much. Plus it is dangerous. In every trial the lawyers are
always on trial too. If a client loses bad, they then go after their own
lawyers. This is true in even high profile cases. I owe my ass(ets) to and
thank god for McCord (of Watergate infamy) v Bailey (as in F. Lee, celebrity
lawyer.)
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| Authored by: John M. Horn on Friday, August 06 2004 @ 04:02 PM EDT |
This would probably be well worth attending even if Mr. Lessig cannot pose any
deep questions regarding the SCO case. Mr. Boies did not acquire his level of
fame and respect by incompetence.
Still, what I wouldn't give to know what he knows about McBride, Sontag, Stowall
and the other usual suspects (particularly the finer details about the Baystar
angle).
John Horn
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| Authored by: Anonomous on Friday, August 06 2004 @ 04:13 PM EDT |
Seeing Boies at the Y is OK, I guess, but I'd really rather see him on the
stand.
-Anonomous.
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| Authored by: wepprop on Friday, August 06 2004 @ 04:27 PM EDT |
ipchains was replaced by iptables...j/k
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| Authored by: ralevin on Friday, August 06 2004 @ 05:09 PM EDT |
It is now on the website:
http://www.92y.org/shop/event_detail.asp?catalog=92y%5FCatalog&productid=T%2
DLC5WR01
If that doesn't work, the easiest way is to search by date.
Also, they pretty much always make an announcement prohibiting "recording
devices" so bring your pencils.[ Reply to This | # ]
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- Now on website - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 06 2004 @ 05:17 PM EDT
- Now on website - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 06 2004 @ 05:36 PM EDT
- um. - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 06 2004 @ 05:39 PM EDT
- Recording Devices - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 06 2004 @ 07:31 PM EDT
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| Authored by: JeR on Friday, August 06 2004 @ 09:42 PM EDT |
IBM-213.pdf as
text:
Defendant/Counterclaim-Plaintiff IBM’S
Memorandum In Support Of Motion To Strike The Declaration Of Christopher
Sontag
I dedicate this transcription to the memory of Mike
Tuxford.
Proofreaders are welcome to comment below this message or mail
them to me (click on the JeR link, stupid). ---
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| Authored by: webster on Saturday, August 07 2004 @ 12:16 AM EDT |
Pretty convincing opposition. Most interesting of all is IBM accusation of SCO
"interference."
Text:
"SCO has interfered with subpoenas IBM has served on third parties,
including instructing third parties not to produce documents to IBM until after
SCO had reviewed the third party's documents.16"
Footnote:
"16 In at least one instance so far, SCO directed a third party, S2
Consulting, to withhold subpoenaed documents from IBM, claiming attorney-client
privilege and the work product immunity. IBM believes such withholding is
inappropriate."
S2 Consulting is Anderer's firm of Holloween X fame. These documents probably
reflect on the origin of the SCO scheme and the involvement of other's. After
all Anderer wanted his commission for the MS funds by way of BayStar.
Considering the stakes these documents should have been disappeared if they ever
existed. Someone is probably keeping them around for leverage. More can be
leaked just like the first one (Holloween X.) Stay tuned. It can only get
better.
Do you think the judge will give SCO 15 yards?
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, August 07 2004 @ 01:59 AM EDT |
I can't recall where I read this or developed this opinion, but it seems to me
that Boies is a Democrat with ties to the party in NY (defended Gore in 2000,
for instance). Why is this relevant? It seems to me that he has a preference for
taking cases that somehow defend 'the little guy' (even if that little guy
happens to be the hapless CFO of Enron, Andrew Fastow). He also took on
Microsoft when working for the Justice Dept. and defended Napster
(unsuccessfully). I really wonder, given his famous antipathy to technology,
whether he really understood the larger implications of what he was getting into
when he decided to take the side of SCO, in what looked like a Napster type
case, i.e. defending the little guy against the giant corporation. He also most
likely had no clue about the GPL, and the participatory nature of free software.
What he failed to grasp, I think, is that in this case, IBM ironically was on
the side of the individual developers, and that SCO was merely a tool to line
the pockets of Ralph Yarrow, and thrown in the road as a pawn by Microsoft.
I would like to believe, at least in some minor, almost miniscule way, there is
at least a fragment of a soul, a morsel of idealism left in this man, that he
was truly fighting 'the good fight'. Is this why we haven't seen him in court?,
that he realizes he should not be representing these people? Or am I wrong? Is
he just in it for the bucks?[ Reply to This | # ]
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