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Monday, May 10 2004 @ 03:29 AM EDT
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The University of Toronto is hosting a conference on Open Source and Free Software, which began Sunday and will continue through Tuesday. I just heard about it tonight. If you can't go in person, they will be making the event available live through streaming video, for a $95 fee. That's Canadian. It's US $71, they say. Obviously, it's more if you attend it all in person. Speakers include Bob Young, the founder of Red Hat and later of Lulu.com, his innovative publishing company, and today it was Brian Behlendorf, one of the co-founders of the Apache project, and Eben Moglen of Columbia University and the Free Software Foundation. There will be archived video available down the road, I think for free. Monday, there is a session on Open Source and business models and one on the technical side of open source, talking about security, usability, reliability, and customizability. Then in the evening, Bob Young gives his keynote address, which is described like this: "The topic of the address is an autobiographical journey through issues such as open source, free software, open content, public domain, public good, entrepreneurship, business, free markets, democracy, customer service, and profits. "Bob will attempt to explain how the 18th Century philosophers, from Adam Smith to Ricardo and Mill he was introduced to at the University of Toronto, can be used to identify business opportunities that lead to highly profitable business ventures and huge social good at the same time. How his toiling in the backwaters of the technology industry for 17 years contributed significantly to his ability to recognize the business opportunity that Open Source, then called Free Software, represented to his and Marc Ewing's starving Red Hat start-up. If time permits he may also attempt the rhetoric contortions of justifying his latest projects, the Ticats and Lulu, as simply logical extensions in a career dedicated to proving (if only by accident) that Adam Smith was right."
Somehow, I note, Microsoft always finds a way to get invited to send speakers to these things, which is ridiculous. They truly don't belong there. Not unless they get involved from the heart in open source or free software. I believe that is scheduled for some time between pigs flying and the end of the world. Or immediately thereafter. Expect delays. No. Shared Source doesn't count. And they'd have to quit trying to kill GNU/Linux and the GPL. Those seem like the minimum requirements to be allowed to speak at such events, I think.
Here's the schedule, in case you'd like to go or would like to tune in. Registration is here. The part that I wanted to share with you the most, though, is that the software they are using to make the conference available will be released eventually under an open source license. You can read about it on the ePresence site. More details in an archived talk, "Introduction to the ePresence Interactive Webcasting". If it can do all they say, I am wondering if you could maybe have an online international party, using this software? One of these sweet days.
: )
In a red dress.
More importantly, if you watch the slide presentation, maybe you will agree with me that this is the way to do newbie documentation, not in printed words only but in archived software demos. I seriously see how you could do such a "book" using this software. They say you can save to online archives or to CD. I hope they release this software soon. Am I just dreaming, or am I right that this would be an incredible improvement for how-to's? As you can see, my brain is off and in flight. I need to find out more about this software. Maybe some of you know an even better way that is already available.
Here's what the ePresence page says about the software:
"The ePresence Lab is a research project of the Knowledge Media Design Institute at the University of Toronto. The goal of our research is to make webcasting:
- Highly interactive
- More engaging
- Accessible in real-time and later via structured, navigable, searchable archives
- Useful for knowledge transmission, building, and sharing
- Scalable and robust.
"Work to date has succeeded in the creation of a viable and innovative webcasting system. This includes support for video, audio, and slide broadcasting; slide browsing and review; submitting questions, integrated moderated chat, live software demos and the automated creation of event archives.
"We have recently formed a Project Partnership. Our mandate is to further develop the ePresence Interactive Webcasting system and work toward an eventual open source release." So, what do you think? Are there not lots of interesting possibilities with ePresence? I wish I had it for Groklaw, so we could work collaboratively in real-time on certain projects. Imagine the OCR, proof, edit process, for starters. I guess you can certainly see how I think, huh? It saves as XML, the demo said, and all I could think was: Microsoft just got some kind of XML patent. I hope they don't turn their legal beagles loose on trying to find some nasty way to destroy all the freedom of this software by claiming XML is theirs, all theirs, and thrusting it into a patent prison, because the creative possibilities of ePresence are wonderful to contemplate. Young is quoted in one press release about the conference as saying that closed systems stifle innovation, and I believe that: "'It is a myth that successful businesses have to maintain proprietary control of their product and marketplace in order to be successful. Innovation is ultimately the key to success for any business. Closed systems actually discourage innovation,' says Young." Anything that raises the bar to participation reduces innovation, because you never know who will have the next great idea. It could just be some poor but creative brainiac who can't afford some stupid royalty on somebody's stupid patent that in many cases probably should never have been granted in the first place, with the result that the world loses out on his innovatation. Meanwhile, imagine a world where only large companies can innovate, because they have all the patents in their holster. Which reminds me: Here's a peek at Longhorn. And another. One idea I do like is the Alt-Tab tilted line-up of windows, so you can find what you need on your monitor. You should see my monitor. And Microsoft would like the world to know that Palladium is alive and kicking, despite recent reports to the contrary, and it will reappear in Longhorn. You just can't kill Palladium. Like the ghouls in "Night of the Living Dead", it keeps showing up, wanting what it wants: "Microsoft is continuing to be vague about exactly how much of its NGSCB code will ship as part of Longhorn. Company officials have gone on record saying that customers would not be impacted by the technology until Microsoft delivered Version 2 of the NGSCB platform. The company has not provided a date for Version 2.
"In spite of these facts, the plan of record continues to be to deliver Version 1 of its NGSCB technology as part of Longhorn, said Juarez." I'm sure you are thrilled by their innovation. How do you enjoy the secrecy? Not only are you not allowed to look at, copy or modify their software code, we are not even allowed to know what it will do exactly or how much Palladium there will be in Longhorn. And they wonder why they are in danger of losing out to GNU/Linux systems. Hint: people use software. People. As in human beings. Human beings love freedom. We're hardwired that way. They are tossing features overboard to get a Longhorn release out that is more secure, and some time before Linux takes over the desktop and the server space totally, but one thing they are keeping is that you will probably have to buy a new computer to run Longhorn. It sounds like it will require 64-bit just to boot: "But not everyone is impressed with Microsoft's Longhorn vision. A software engineer who requested anonymity said it is likely that by the time Longhorn actually ships, it may look very different from what is being touted today. Microsoft also must have 64-bit support in Longhorn, said the engineer, since users are 'going to need 64-bit computing just to boot [the operating system]. Microsoft really needs something to cause people to have to buy new computers, since people just don't upgrade the operating system once it's preinstalled at the factory.' "Microsoft is also taking a 'hard bet' on the adoption rate of 64-bit computing, said Allchin. But he said he expects the adoption to move rapidly, with few compatibility issues 'other than the drivers, which could slow it down, and that's another reason why we have to take a hard bet on it,' he said. "Allchin confirmed that Microsoft is planning a 32-bit version in addition to a 64-bit version of Longhorn, although he did leave the door slightly open for change. 'We will have a 64-bit version of Longhorn, no question,' he said. 'Will we have a 32-bit version? The plan is yes, but if we learn a lot between now and then, that might change. But right now we are staying the course, and it is so hard to predict how fast the run rate will be. We know where [Advanced Micro Devices Inc.] will be, we know pretty much where Intel [Corp.] will be. I think we just have to wait a little bit.'" Meanwhile, IBM has a plan for the desktop too, Workplace: "'We're delivering this here and now. It's 2004, not 2007 or whenever," says [IBM's] Mills. Other companies, including Novell and Red Hat, are pushing their versions of Linux hard right now for the same reason: Mighty Microsoft is vulnerable.
"OPEN-SOURCE BOOST. With IBM Workplace as an alternative, corporations could decide not to buy any Microsoft software, or at least buy less. 'They can use things they run on Windows, but they're not stuck with it,' says Mills. For example, a customer could run Linux or Macintosh operating systems on its PCs and laptops, use IBM Workplace as so-called middleware sitting between the operating system and applications, and either tap into its custom applications or into run-the-business applications from SAP (SAP ), Siebel Systems (SEBL ), and PeopleSoft (PSFT ) located on servers. Or they can use Windows but avoid using Microsoft Office and use Workplace office software instead." I hope everyone pays attention to something Bruce Perens just said out loud: "'The open-source (community) has its own view of what you can and cannot do with a commercial exploitation of it,' he said. 'If they feel that Linux and open-source are becoming too much of a commercial playground, they're going to stop developing.'" That is the ultimate power play, but it's certainly true that without the community, there will be no Linux to exploit, so those who wish to benefit from it commercially will have to learn to respect the community and their values, because they can't do a thing without them and they can't fool them either. I present Exhibit A, part of a lengthy online discussion you may find interesting. It's also why SCO can't win, no matter what happens. You just can't steal Linux and run off with it. Even in a worst case scenario, with a bribable judge, for example, all the creative, innovative authors of the Linux kernel will just stop working on it any more. And then, that's all folks. SCO would then become a troll under a Linux toll bridge with no more water, trying to eke out a living from two dying operating systems nobody wants, instead of just one. I hope everyone, including the BayStars of this world, understand that clearly, because it's the bottom line.
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Authored by: PJ on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 03:31 AM EDT |
Please put corrections here, so I can find them. Thanks. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: inode_buddha on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 03:36 AM EDT |
To be more active with my LUG... we're only a short drive away.
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"When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price." --
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Authored by: Rann on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 03:59 AM EDT |
... Pity things are too busy for me to attend:-(
Please note U of T's
motto... quite fitting for Linux and Open Source:
Velut arbor aevo
(Latin: "As a tree with the passage of time")
BTW PJ:
"Not
unless they get involved from the heart in open source or free software. I
believe that is scheduled for some time between pigs flying and the end of the
world. Or immediately thereafter."
Try more like the morning of the
second coming of Christ!
U of T Geology Class of '81 [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: CnocNaGortini on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 04:08 AM EDT |
Microsoft always finds a way to get invited to send speakers to
these things, which is ridiculous. They truly don't belong
there.
It helps to keep the contrast visible! And to entertain
us with laughably obvious FUD?
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Authored by: ___Mike_B on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 07:12 AM EDT |
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 07:17 AM EDT |
BayStars of this world, understand the bottom line.
It has been established that Baystar could be seen as an independent agent of
Microsoft, one removed. If that makes sense.
So - yes, Baystar does understand... but, their mission is to defeat the enemy
at all costs. And Baystar does not care about the women and childen (because
they are seen as users too, slaves of the Microsoft proprietary monopoly! A
monopoly that has been able to use it's ill gotten monies to buy lawyers,
manufacture patents, fund marketing and advertising to promote their agenda, buy
banks opinions by giving banks some part of MS $50,000,000,000.00 cash reserves
and daily cash flow to manage, fund the writing of massive amounts of code, buy
technology companies, and loose money selling X-box (and others) to squeeze
their competition out of the markets, use monies to gain political capital, use
their monies to hire away critical employees of their competitors (Citrix before
against IBM, search groklaw for info on this, and hiring SuSE employees who
conviced major cities in Germany to go with open source, etc), the list goes on.
Microsoft is the evil empire, and there is not a government in the world that
has yet stood up to this evil empire by using EXISTING ANTI-TRUST LAW to punish
or fine them amounts of money that will actually send them a message.
Baystar understands the bottom line! And their wagon is hitched to the
Microsoft wagon! It's support Microsoft, or what (an offer that they dare not
refuse)!
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 07:17 AM EDT |
If you like the Alt-Tab tilted line-up of windows, then you would probably like
Expose in Mac OS X even more:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/expose/
[Quicktime is needed for demo]
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Authored by: nvanevski on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 07:39 AM EDT |
I present Exhibit A, part of a lengthy online discussion you may find
interesting.
I am currently reading the discussion. I know you do not
give legal advice, but maybe some of your lawyer friends :) can tell us what can
actually happen if a company (Linuxant in this example) misrepresents the
software as GPL, when it really isn't? Is there any way to make them release the
source if they pull such scam? I mean, it is illegal, isn't it? The mere fact
that Linuxant programmers found a technical way to outsmart the module loader
does not make it legal, after all![ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: fcw on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 08:08 AM EDT |
...in the form of an IRC
chat session
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 08:42 AM EDT |
Anyone excited?
Nervous?[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 08:44 AM EDT |
"Somehow, I note, Microsoft always finds a way to get invited to send
speakers to these things, which is ridiculous. They truly don't belong there.
Not unless they get involved from the heart in open source or free software. I
believe that is scheduled for some time between pigs flying and the end of the
world. Or immediately thereafter. Expect delays.
No. Shared Source doesn't count. And they'd have to quit trying to kill
GNU/Linux and the GPL. Those seem like the minimum requirements to be allowed to
speak at such events, I think."
While I find groklaw an interesting site to read at times, it is really getting
tiresome with comments like the above.
The above is like saying "We're not interested in what you have to say,
because you don't share the same ideals as us."
Don't bother answering this post. I just wanted to point out what I feel about
comments like that. Not to discuss them.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 09:12 AM EDT |
Here is an idea for the user documentation you have been talking about PJ. How
about creating a live distro targeted at newbies thats filled with
documentation, flash tutorials, and made kiss simple. All the user has to know
is how to boot the computer and put a disk in the tray. That way, it's not
something you have to go to the net to look for, it's right there already.
I have a distro in mind too, PCLinuxOS. It's a Mandrake 9.2 based livecd. It
has OO.o 1.1 Gimp 2.01, Flash, Java, Realplayer, Mplayer, Mandrake's Control
Center and Mandrake's tools, KDE mission control, Synaptic (an apt-get based rpm
manager that is much better than urpmdrake), 3D drivers built in, livecd install
and makelivecd remastering, persistant usbkey home directory, and many other
great features. And the Synaptic repository is full of software that wouldn't
fit on the cd.
What's best about it is it is free as in beer, newbie friendly (tho it's still
beta), has much eyecandy to it (we eat with our eyes first, so it's important to
make a good first impression), and has texstar's talent for making something
good.
What he doesn't have is an attitude that limits the distro. If it's good, it's
going in. And I'm sick of livecd's that say it wasn't meant to be installed and
either don't give a way to install it or it's difficult to do so. PCLOS is
different. Installing it is a wanted feature and an active project.
BTW: it's the distro that I run, and after trying Gentoo, Mandrake, Redhat,
Debian, Slackware, SUSE, Mepis, Lindows, Ark, and many others, PLCOS is the best
IMHO.
But the idea of a livecd is what I propose. I think if Groklaw got together
with a livecd maker and made a newbie Linux distro that immediately after it was
loaded was aimed at the newbie learning Linux, I think that would be awesome.
Make it with the popular software, make it so it's light, lean, well documented,
and full of newbie oriented material. That way the documentation would be
light, would be accessable without having to have the knowledge something like
that is out there in the first place saving all those frustrating moments when
you wished you knew what to do but didn't know there was a place to find the
answer. And since we would be incontrol of the software that is at least
initially installed, we could more easily document how and why to use the
installed software.
And it's something we Groklaw'ers can promote and evangelicalize by downloading,
burning, and distributing the software to those that don't know.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 09:33 AM EDT |
I personally like viewlets from Qarbon to show
users the working of a program.
Some searching for an open source version,
resulted in:
There used to be The Linux Viewlet Project, but
the viewlets are no longer
available.
Wink is completely
freeware. Never used it and don't know if a Linux version is available.
H@ns
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Authored by: dmscvc123 on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 09:41 AM EDT |
Maybe he'll sneak in at the last minute... [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 10:57 AM EDT |
Maybe pointing out the obvious, but I think MS, SCO, Sun, et al would LOVE it if
all development work stopped on Linux. Sorry PJ, but I think such a "power
play" just gives the companies what they want - less competition.
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Authored by: tangomike on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 10:57 AM EDT |
eWeek's Vaughn-Nichols has an interesting article on Linux becoming the o/s for
'legacy' Windows apps, because M$ seems determined to leave them out of
Longhorn:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1586641,00.asp
If this ever catches on, Longhorn could be M$'s PS2/OS2... too proprietery, so
it dies.
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Authored by: wvhillbilly on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 11:05 AM EDT |
No. Shared Source doesn't count. And they'd have to quit trying
to kill GNU/Linux and the GPL. Those seem like the minimum requirements to be
allowed to speak at such events, I think.
[Tinfoil
hat]
Betcha they're there just to find out what Open Source is doing and
planning, so they can refine their strategy for fighting it.
[/tinfoil
hat]
:-O--- What goes around comes around, and it grows as it goes. [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 11:17 AM EDT |
Marc Boucher of Linuxant the "beard" of Conexant (formerly
Rockwell semiconductor systems inc.) has written a hack to
obscure the "taint" notice.
The taint notice warns the user that the compiled Kernel
has some non GPLed element in it.
Conexant (Rockwell) wishes to keep its drivers proprietary,
but hide that fact from the Linux user.
Therefore hardware with Conexant (Rockwell) "chipsets" are not GPL
compatible![ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 11:27 AM EDT |
The lawyers in attendance at tomorrows SCO vs.
Novell hearing show up in this doc:
http://www.utd.uscourts.gov/reports/0510k.html
I can't help but notice that Kevin is on the list.
Last time he was in court, afterwards Sontag said
"we expected to lose". I wonder how they feel their
chances are for tomorrow? [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: freeio on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 11:41 AM EDT |
The more I read about the next generation computing systems, and the
expected
immediate shift to 64-bit computing, the more I am taken aback
by the lack of
any consideration for what constitutes appropriate technology. I
like fast
computers just as I like fast cars, but the fact is that
just as I choose an
affordable and practical vehicle to drive, so also
do I choose an affordable and
practical solution for computing.
A bit of background is in
order: As an young engineer, 20+ years
ago I recognized a useful tool at
an electronics surplus store, and
bought it immedaitely. That tool is an
old Simpson
wattmeter. It allows me to directly measure power consumption
of
devices, up to 750 watts, which is a great range for measuring the
power
consumption of computing equipment. Over the years, I have
repeatedly
measured the power required by many computers, and was
pleased to see that basic
PC beige box desktop computer power
consumption dropped from an average of about
95 watts to less than 40
watts. I have a four AT-style PCs I use as
servers which idle at
less than 30 watts, and I consider them to be very
appropriate technology for
their utilization. Their now antique AMD K6-II
processors are
very efficient at running their headless, GUI-less, linux-based
server
applications, and the speed is fast enough to completely fill
the
100Base-T ethernet lines to the switch.
Since then, as the
processor speeds have increased, and the graphics
subsystems have become
fancier, the power consumption has consistently
risen. If I measure the
consumption of my current main
workstation (MSI K7T motherboard, AMD Athlon
1800+ XP, 768MB memory,
plain ATI Rage-128 video) I see that it takes about 125
watts at idle,
and the faster systems I have measured have taken over 200 watts
-
specifically those with high-end video systems. The power
consumption
predictions of the next generation systems, most expecially
the 64-bit systems,
continue to increase. This has real costs
which we dare not ignore.
Our family owns a photography
studio,
and there are 10 computers required to run the business.
There
are five servers, three workstations, one multi-media system in
the
showroom, and one laptop. Because of our location, air
conditioning is
required most of the year, and any power required by
the computers results in an
equivalent amout of heat, and that heat
must be removed by the HVAC systems,
which are far less than 100%
efficient. So I estimate that for each 100
watts of computer
load, I have to supply an additional 150 watts to remove the
heat, for
a total of 250 watts. The current HVAC is adequately
sized
to handle this load, but no more. The current equipment is
quite
sufficient to make and sell digital photography. I will spend
no
more to improve it until and unless there is a business case to do
so.
I expect that, in spite of the reduced feature sizes of the
processors,
memory, and video subsystems, the gross power consumption of
the
64-bit computer systems will increase by approximately
50
percent, at idle. But the question becomes one of what
benefit do
I get in order to justify the economic cost of that much
additional computer
power consumption and heat load? So far, I
can see nothing which makes it
remotely necessary for the business,
other than the fact that given a few years,
the lemming-like nature of
the business may make it so that only 64-bit software
is being
developed, because the bad, old 32-bit software is simply obsolete,
and
besides, MS and the system builders only make money selling newer and
more
complex systems. Thus, from an econmic standpoint, I can see
absolutely no
business case from a business user standpoint to go to
64-bit systems, other
than if one is massaging truly huge databases or
mathematical problems. We
do not need this. It is not appropriate
technology.
One of the
strengths of free software is that it is not tied to the
need to churn the
technology to make the next dollar (yen, euro, yuan,
etc.) It is all about
the freedom to use appropriate
technology. If you need or simply yearn for
the power of 64-bit
systems, it will support you there. If, on the other
hand, you
are happily on the technological trailing edge, it supports you
there
also.
MS Longhorn? 64-bits
required? Built-in
"rights management?" Let's see how
this would work: Upgrade
all computer hardware, replace all operating
systems, upgrade all
software to make it run on their new DRM system, have
faster hardware
run no faster because of the pig of a software system I have to
run,
and then have higher utility bills for my trouble. I see no
appropriate technology here!
No, I choose not to go that way.
marty
--- Tux et bona et
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 12:43 PM EDT |
Please carefully note Microsoft's attempt to artificially
redefine terms that have clear meanings. The concept of "Free
software" is something first codified in formal concept by the Free
Software Foundation, and they have been remarkably consistent in articulating a
very clear ideology and philosophy from the very beginning. "Open
Source" was introduced by Eric Raymond and Bruce Perens some years ago with
a different philosophical bent -- one conceived to be more "business
friendly" and less "ideologically threatening". Some might call
it "Free Software - Lite".
It's interesting to note that even Bruce Perens has broken with some of the
original aims of that "Open Source" beginning, and now praises the GPL
-- something which even Eric Raymond does grudgingly now that it has become an
article of accepted business licensing. He had originally used every
opportunity to describe it as "viral" -- something which Microsoft
continues to do.
So usage continues to vary. The Open Source movement has come closer in
practical elements of licensing to the Free Software movement while still
rejecting discussions of philosophy as somehow alienating and unnecessary.
Meanwhile Microsoft tries to discredit the concepts of the GPL and the FSF as
its defender and ideological father, while trying to pull the "Open
Software" movement towards the BSD end, or worse -- towards something which
"Open Software" would not now accept, but which I'm sure Microsoft
hopes they will eventually embrace, that is -- "Shared Source."
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Authored by: cxd on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 12:52 PM EDT |
Well it looks like another day of anticipation is upon us. I do not write to
this list often. Only on big game days. I will be there tomorrow early. I look
forward to visiting with all of my linux friends at the court. Some of my
predictions for tomorrow. The local media will be there in force. Yes even
local tv. This is because Mr Mimms of the Salt Lake Tribine has showed some of
them that there is a story here.
It will be interesting how much media is there. On the last court date it was
quite easy to look around and see who the press was. How do you tell? Well
they are the ones asking the nearest Linux supporter about the case. We packed
the court last time and well the media did eventually find the media people for
SCOG but not until they had to push their way through a crowd of LINUX
FAITHFULL.
I will be there tomorrow with the tux pin on my sport coat looking for a good
result and feeling the support of my fellow Linux users. You know we have a
loyal court following now. I do not know names yet but I do know faces and I
look forward to seeing you all tomorrow.
Hoping for a great result.
I love women in red dresses.
"No dear that was not a pick up line honest"
Karl[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: ujay on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 12:56 PM EDT |
"'The open-source (community) has its own view of what you can
and cannot do with a commercial exploitation of it,' he said. 'If they feel that
Linux and open-source are becoming too much of a commercial playground, they're
going to stop developing.'"
I think the operative word is
exploitation. The software consumer has been exploited enough with overpriced
software. There is no need for a completely non-commercial influence in Linux,
after all, getting paid for your work is a good motivator, though not the
principle motivator.
It's nice to see good applications coming into Linux
with a low cost to the consumer. There will be some samples of greed, but with
the availability of other solutions, I doubt they will take hold unless they
offer a spectacular benefit not available elsewhere.
So I agree with Bruce,
the exploitation mindset will ruin the sandbox for
everyone.
--- Programmer: A biological system designed to convert
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, May 10 2004 @ 01:21 PM EDT |
I notice in the screenshots of "Longhorn" that the word "My"
is ommitted in front of "Documents" and "Music" and the
rest. MS putting "My" in front of everything was good enough reason to
never use their software again.[ Reply to This | # ]
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