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S2's Objections to Subpoena - as text
Wednesday, April 21 2004 @ 01:37 AM EDT

Joseph Jay Anthony has prepared S2's Objections to Subpoena Duces Tecum Directed to S2 Strategic Consulting, LLC and Response as text. There are several typos in the original, which we have not corrected.

**********************************

DAVID W. SCOFIELD - 4140
PETERS SCOFIELD PRICE
A Professional Corporation
[address, phone, fax]

Attorneys for S2 Strategic Consulting, LLC

__________________________________________

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
DISTRICT OF UTAH, CENTRAL DIVISION

_________________________________________

THE SCO GROUP, INC., a Delaware corporation, et al.,
Plaintiff and Counterclaim Defendant,

-vs-

INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MACHINES
CORPORATION, a New York corporation,
Defendant and Counterclaim Plaintiff.

_____________________________________________

OBJECTIONS TO SUBPOENA DUCES
TECUM DIRECTED TO S2 STRATEGIC
CONSULTING, LLC, AND RESPONSE

Case No. 2:03CV-0294DAK

Judge Dale A. Kimball

__________________________________________

S2 Strategic Consulting, LLC ("S2"), by and through its undersigned counsel, objects to the subpoena duces tecum issued to S2 by International Business Machines Corporation ("IBM") on or about March 24, 2004, and in support of its objections, represents as follows:

1. S2 is not a party to the above-referenced litigation. Most of the documents identified in the subpoena appear to be documents in the custody and/or possession of the parties to this litigation and are unrelated to S2.

2. S2 objects to the subpoena on grounds that some of the information sought is confidential and/or proprietary, which S2 protects from its competitors. Moreover, some of the information sought relates to clients of S2, which S2 is prohibited from disclosing pursuant to contract, and/or informal agreement. In the absence of an appropriate protective order in these proceedings, S2 will not provide such information to the extent that S2 is in possession of such information.

3. S2 objects to the subpoena to the extent that production of such documents requires the formation of a legal conclusion in determining what documents may be responsive.

4. S2 objects to the subpoena on grounds that the information sought is under the control of third parties and is, therefore, as easily accessible to IBM as it is to S2.

5. S2 objects to the subpoena on grounds that this request for information is overly broad, burdensome and oppressive. Further, the request for information is so vague as to leave S2 unable to determine the relevant information being sought.

6. S2 objects to the subpoena to the extent that it seeks information that is privileged, in whole or in part, as attorney-client communication.

7. S2 reserves the right to amend these responses, to correct any inadvertent errors, or otherwise to supplement its responses if responsive documents are uncovered later that were not located by the time of S2's initial response.

Each of the foregoing objections is hereby incorporated by this reference into each response, below:

REQUEST NO 1: All documents concerning this Lawsuit (including SCO's claims and IBM's defenses and counterclaims), including but not limited to all documents concerning: (a) SCO's alleged evidence in support of its claims; and (b) any statement, affidavit, declaration, analysis, assessment or opinion concerning this Lawsuit or SCO's alleged rights or evidence.

RESPONSE: Objection. S2 objects that Request for Production No. 1 calls for S2 to make legal conclusions as to what may or may not be pertinent to litigation to which it is not a party. S2 further objects that any documents that it possesses relating to services provided to SCO, or communications with SCO or others relating to its work for SCO, are subject to the contention that they are covered by an ostensible confidentiality agreement between SCO and S2. S2 therefore exercises it rights pursuant to paragraph 10 of the Stipulated Protective Order entered herein on September 16, 2003 (the "SPO"), and provides this date notice to SCO of the subpoena duces tecum, in conformity with such order. S2 also objects that the document request is overly broad, vague and ambiguous. S2 reserves all of its rights with respect to its agreements with SCO. Without waiver of those objections, S2 responds that it has in its possession, custody and control documents that relate to its agreement to provide services to SCO, that will be produced only in accordance with paragraph 10 of the SPO.

REQUEST NO. 2: All documents concerning any communications with SCO and/or Canopy

RESPONSE: Objection. S2 objects that any documents that it possesses relating to services provided to SCO, or communications with SCO or others relating to its work for SCO, and its communications, are subject to the contention that they are covered by an ostensible confidentiality agreement between SCO and S2. S2 therefore exercises it rights pursuant to paragraph 10 of the Stipulated Protective Order entered herein on September 16, 2003, and provides this date notice to SCO of the subpoena duces tecum, in conformity with such order. S2 also objects that the document request is overly broad, vague and ambiguous. Without waiver of those objections, S2 responds that it has in its possession, custody and control documents that entail communications between it and SCO, that will be produced only in accordance with paragraph 10 of the SPO. S2 is unaware of any such documents within its possession, custody or control as relates to Canopy.

REQUEST NO. 3: All documents concerning any meetings with SCO and/or Canopy.

RESPONSE: Objection. S2 objects that any documents that it possesses relating to services provided to SCO, or communications with SCO or others relating to its work for SCO, and its meetings, are subject to the contention that they are covered by an ostensible confidentiality agreement between SCO and S2. S2 therefore exercises it rights pursuant to paragraph 10 of the Stipulated Protective Order entered herein on September 16, 2003, and provides this date notice to SCO of the subpoena duces tecum, in conformity with such order. S2 also objects that the document request is overly broad, vague and ambiguous. Without waiver of those objections, S2 responds that it has in its possession, custody and control documents that relate to meetings between it and SCO, that will be produced only in accordance with paragraph 10 of the SPO. S2 is unaware of any such documents within its possession, custody or control as relates to Canopy.

REQUEST NO. 4: All documents concerning any agreements or understandings (written or oral) with or relating to SCO and/or Canopy.

RESPONSE: Objection. S2 objects that any documents that it possesses relating to services provided to SCO, or communications with SCO or others relating to its work for SCO, and its agreements, are subject to the contention that they are covered by an ostensible confidentiality agreement between SCO and S2. S2 therefore exercises it rights pursuant to paragraph 10 of the Stipulated Protective Order entered herein on September 16, 2003, and provides this date notice to SCO of the subpoena duces tecum, in conformity with such order. S2 also objects that the document request is overly broad, vague and ambiguous. Without waiver of those objections, S2 responds that it has in its possession, custody and control documents concerning agreements between it and SCO, that will be produced only in accordance with paragraph 10 of the SPO. S2 is unaware of any such documents within its possession, custody or control as relates to Canopy.

REQUEST NO. 5: All documents concerning any communications with Microsoft Corporation ("Microsoft").

RESPONSE: Objection. S2 objects that any documents that it possesses relating to services provided to SCO, or communications with SCO or others relating to its work for SCO, and its communications, are subject to the contention that they are covered by an ostensible confidentiality agreement between SCO and S2. S2 therefore exercises it rights pursuant to paragraph 10 of the Stipulated Protective Order entered herein on September 16, 2003, and provides this date notice to SCO of the subpoena duces tecum, in conformity with such order. S2 also objects that the document request is overly broad, vague and ambiguous. S2 finally objects in that it engages in a substantial amount of business dealings relating to Micrsoft that are utterly unrelated to any other entities reference in the subpoena, which dealings are confidential and proprietary to S2. Without waiver of those objections, S2 responds that it has in its possession, custody and control documents that entail communications between it and Microsoft, that relate to parties in this litigation, that will be produced only in accordance with paragraph 10 of the SPO. S2's documents pertaining to its own, unrelated, confidential and proprietary business dealings with Microsoft will not be produced.

REQUEST NO. 6: All documents concerning any meetings with Microsoft.

RESPONSE: Objection. S2 objects that any documents that it possesses relating to services provided to SCO, or communications with SCO or others relating to its work for SCO, and its communications, are subject to the contention that they are covered by an ostensible confidentiality agreement between SCO and S2. S2 therefore exercises it rights pursuant to paragraph 10 of the Stipulated Protective Order entered herein on September 16, 2003, and provides this date notice to SCO of the subpoena duces tecum, in conformity with such order. S2 also objects that the document request is overly broad, vague and ambiguous. S2 finally objects in that it engages in a substantial amount of business dealings relating to Micrsoft that are utterly unrelated to any other entities reference in the subpoena, which dealings are confidential and proprietary to S2. Without waiver of those objections, S2 responds that it has in its possession, custody and control documents that concern meetings between it and Microsoft, that relate to parties in this litigation, that will be produced only in accordance with paragraph 10 of the SPO. S2's documents pertaining to its own, unrelated, confidential and proprietary business meetings with Microsoft will not be produced.

REQUEST NO. 7: All documents concerning any meetings with BayStar.

RESPONSE: S2 is unaware of any such documents within its possession, custody or control.

REQUEST NO. 8: All documents concerning any meetings with BayStar.

RESPONSE: S2 is unaware of any such documents within its possession, custody or control.

REQUEST NO. 9: All documents concerning any communications with Royal Bank of Canada ("RBC").

RESPONSE: S2 is unaware of any such documents within its possession, custody or control.

REQUEST NO. 10: All documents concerning any meetings with RBC.

RESPONSE: S2 is unaware of any such documents within its possession, custody or control.

REQUEST NO. 11: All documents concerning any services performed for SCO and/or Canopy, including but not limited to all services performed pursuant to the contract dated July 1, 2003 between SCO Operating, Inc. and S2 Strategic Consulting, LLC.

RESPONSE: Objection. S2 objects that any documents that it possesses relating to services provided to SCO, or communications with SCO or others relating to its work for SCO, and its agreements, are subject to the contention that they are covered by an ostensible confidentiality agreement between SCO and S2. S2 therefore exercises it rights pursuant to paragraph 10 of the Stipulated Protective Order entered herein on September 16, 2003, and provides this date notice to SCO of the subpoena duces tecum, in conformity with such order. S2 also objects that the document request is overly broad, vague and ambiguous. Without waiver of those objections, S2 responds that it has in its possession, custody and control documents concerning agreements between it and SCO, that will be produced only in accordance with paragraph 10 of the SPO.

DATED this 19th day of April, 2004.

PETERS SCOFIELD PRICE
A Professional Corporation

______[signature]__________
DAVID W. SCOFIELD
Attorneys for S2 Strategic Consulting, LLC

________________________________

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE

The undersigned hereby certifies that a true and correct copy of the above and foregoing OBJECTIONS TO SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM DIRECTED TO S2 STRATEGIC CONSULTING, LLC, AND RESPONSE was delivered via e-mail, this 19th day of April, 2004, to the following:

Amy Sorenson
SNELL & WILMER
[address, email]

Brent 0. Hatch
HATCH, JAMES & DODGE
[address, email]

______[signature]_______
David W. Scofield


  


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S2's Objections to Subpoena as text
Authored by: inode_buddha on Wednesday, April 21 2004 @ 02:07 AM EDT
Thanks, Jay... that's a lot of typing/formatting. Interesting how the same names
keep popping up in these these cases, isn't it? (Disclaimer: Of course my
tinfoil hat is resonating quite strongly these days).

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"When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price." --
Richard M. Stallman

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Corrections Here Please
Authored by: PJ on Wednesday, April 21 2004 @ 02:14 AM EDT
Corrections here please, so I can find them quickly. Thanks.

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"Ostensible"? Does that mean the confidentiality agreement is only implied?
Authored by: Stephen on Wednesday, April 21 2004 @ 02:45 AM EDT

I was curious about the word "ostensible", which occurs frequently in this document. In American English usage, that word has disparaging connotations, making it an odd choice here.

dictionary.law.com provided some enlightenment. It doesn't directly define "ostensible", but the word shows up in several other contexts. Do a search both for the definition and for all definitions containing the word. The definition of "agency", for example, hints at the meaning of "ostensible".

The document seems to be saying that S2 and SCO acted as if their relationship was covered by a confidentiality agreement, though no formal agreement was made. If that's correct, it seems suspiciously convenient as a way to stall for 30 days or more.

I am no attorney, so I am left wondering: Is this what "ostensible" really means? Are "ostensible" confidentiality agreements established law or has S2 come up with a novel theory?

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S2's Objections to Subpoena - as text
Authored by: bonzai on Wednesday, April 21 2004 @ 03:05 AM EDT
The contract on July 1, 2003 between S2 Strategic Consulting, LLC (signed by Michael Anderer as CEO) and SCO Operations, Inc. (signed by Robert K. Bench as CFO) can be found here.

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S2's Objections to Subpoena - as text
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 21 2004 @ 09:47 AM EDT

Is it my imagination, or is this document really responsive? It lays out who they are doing business with and who they aren't, who they've met with and who they haven't. Which has to give IBM a nice overview of the lay-of-the-land.

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S2's Objections to Subpoena - as text
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 21 2004 @ 10:28 AM EDT
Does anyone else find it interesting that S2 has documents that pertain to
Microsoft about other business not SCO related? The belief was that, based on
the Anderer email that surfaced earlier, Anderer was a consultant for SCO. Maybe
he's actually a consultant for Microsoft. I wonder if MS hired him to find
companies willing create fud for linux for a price (with backing from MS). Makes
you wonder if this is what happened to Sun, eh? Can you think of a better reason
that Sun both bought an ip license from SCO and buried the hatchet with
Microsoft for nearly 2 billion? If I were IBM, I might try to see if S2 had
anything relating to Sun.

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Where did this come from?
Authored by: crs17 on Wednesday, April 21 2004 @ 10:57 AM EDT
I've been reading Groklaw pretty thoroughly and I don't remember ever hearing
about a subpeona going out to S2. Does the issuing of subpeonas not go into the
court record (and thus into Groklaw) when they are issued? Or did I just miss
it? Are there other subpeonas out there that we know about?

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Will S2 exercise its option to purchase stock?
Authored by: edumarest on Wednesday, April 21 2004 @ 12:01 PM EDT
Under Compensation:

3. (c) Warrant: In addition to the foregoing Fees if approved by The SCO Group,
Inc. board of directors, The SCO Group, Inc., shall issue a warrant giving IC
the right to purchase 25,000 shares of common stock. Said warrant will expire
two (2) years from the date of this agreement and be exercisable at a strike
price equal to $8.50 per share.

S2, better buy quick, SCO needs the bucks.

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...if you cannot measure it then you cannot troubleshoot it, you can only
guess...
SuSE 9.0 on hp pavilion ze 4560us

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Email???
Authored by: Leonard on Wednesday, April 21 2004 @ 12:44 PM EDT
"CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
The undersigned hereby certifies that a true and correct copy [...] was
delivered via e-mail"

Is that actually a valid certificate of service?
I know that USPS is and other physical delivery services e.g. FedEx are fine as
is a Fax. But email?

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S2 Law Firm?
Authored by: dmscvc123 on Wednesday, April 21 2004 @ 03:48 PM EDT
"S2 objects to the subpoena to the extent that it seeks information that is
privileged, in whole or in part, as attorney-client communication."

What's up with that...is Anderer even a lawyer? Even if he was, what legal
services was S2 providing? That seems like quite a stretch to claim
attorney-client privilege.

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