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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Friday, March 26 2004 @ 02:14 AM EST

Is there any way to get Microsoft to change its ways? Dan Gillmor says best not to hold our breath:

"After all, government competition authorities, especially in Microsoft's home nation, have failed repeatedly to make a dent in the Microsoft fortress. Why should anybody expect anything different this time?

"The evidence continues to mount, after all, that the world's biggest software company hasn't changed the methods that got it this far. With some $50 billion in cash plus a stated willingness to spend whatever it takes to prevent any meaningful modification in its behavior, Microsoft has ample resources to fend off just about anything governments can do short of sending in troops."

Microsoft, he says, will not reform itself. However, that doesn't mean there is nothing us little people can do to have an antitrust impact. Microsoft, like any other company that sells products, depends on us buying the products.

For those who would like to cut back on or stop using Microsoft products, you do have a choice. I found an article by David Cartwright on some avoidance strategies, from small steps for those either stuck in Windows or nervous about change to those wanting to go the whole hog. I hope you find it useful, if you are looking for such information.

We have listed alternative applications to Windows before. But this is a list that includes a spectrum of suggestions, including some for those who may not be ready to make a giant leap but would like to do something. Note the references at the end. Feel free to add your own suggestions.

*******************************

Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice
~ by David Cartwright

There have been some who have expressed dismay that after Microsoft was found guilty in the U.S. antitrust trial, not enough happened to make it change its ways. However there are choices that consumers can make, if they wish to have an antitrust impact.

There are, actually, a variety of reasons why you may wish to decrease or avoid the use of Microsoft products. Perhaps it's the snowballing license fees, or the constant feeling of insecurity amidst a sea of viruses and worms, or disenchantment with Microsoft's constant attempts to create proprietary lock-ins, or even a desire not to support a monopoly. Whatever your reasons, when it's a corporation that Judge Jackson noted has ďprodigious market power and immense profits,Ē one individual's actions may seem inconsequential.

However, that would be to underestimate the power of one, and the power of a million ones. A single snowflake is a delicate thing, but a million snowflakes together can stop traffic.

So for those who wish to take steps to reduce their dependency on one vendor, here are some practical steps. The steps outlined apply, first, to anyone (particularly if you fall into the 90%+ segment of PC users who use a PC running Microsoft Windows) and then are particularized for specific roles or organizations, such as hardware companies, software developers, Microsoft employees, universities, schools, and Microsoft competitors. The list is not exhaustive, so feel free to use it as a starting point.

Easy Steps for everyone

  • Donít use Hotmail email (currently the major free [as in beer] alternative is Yahoo). Just create a new email account and gradually migrate all your friends to use your new account.
  • There are lots of quality alternatives to a Microsoft mouse and keyboard including Logitech and Belkin.
  • Search using non-Microsoft sites such as Google and Yahoo.
  • Need Instant Messaging? There are plenty of alternatives to MSN Messenger for you and your friends including Yahoo Messenger, AOL Instant Messenger, ICQ, Gaim or a Jabber client.
  • If youíre getting a smartphone, choose a model from a manufacturer such as Nokia, Sony Ericsson, or Palm.
  • Download and use an alternative Internet browser such as Mozilla or Opera. They also have lots of great features that Microsoft Internet Explorer does not have.
  • When you need a second PC, get a Mac, or a low-cost Linux system.
  • If you're purchasing music tracks, choose an Apple iPod. HPís digital music player based on the Apple iPod will also be available within the next few months.
  • Looking for a games machine? The Sony PlayStation and Nintendo GameCube are excellent alternatives to the Microsoft Xbox.
  • There are plenty of other great stocks to choose.

Steps for the adventurous

  • Download and install OpenOffice (itís free), or migrate to Sun StarOffice. Begin the transition from Microsoft Office to true cross-platform solutions.
  • Partition your hard drive and begin experimenting with Linux.

Small and Medium Businesses

  • Seek out system integrators in your area that can provide open source/non-Microsoft solutions. In addition to Linux for servers and desktops, you may be surprised at the cost savings you can also realize in other technologies such as databases and groupware.
  • Try out OpenOffice or StarOffice for your word processing, spreadsheet and presentation requirements. Youíll be surprised at the level of compatibility with Microsoft Office, and be delighted at the money you can save.
  • Cross-platform alternatives to Microsoft Exchange include Samsung Contact, IBM Lotus Notes or OpenGroupware.org

Enterprise and Government users

  • Seek genuine solutions to migrate from Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office. High quality desktop Linux offerings are already available from Red Hat, Novell's SUSE LINUX, Mandrake, and Sun.
  • Trials of non-Microsoft solutions for the desktop environment should not just be about forcing down the price of Microsoft software. Although that is good for competition, it is only a first step. A genuine market reform will require a long-term change in the status-quo.
  • If you are currently using Microsoft Exchange, examine the cross-platform alternatives that can also handle Outlook clients during any desktop transition. Alternative enterprise solutions to Exchange include Samsung Contact and IBM Lotus Notes.
  • If you havenít already examined opportunities to migrate Windows servers to Linux, arrange to meet with at least one out of IBM, Sun, Novell or Red Hat to discuss how Linux can assist your business.
  • Insist on open document standards that are fully supported across all the major platforms: Unix, Linux, and Windows.

Universities and other Teaching Institutions

  • Insist on cross-platform document standards within the institution. For example, all teaching and assignment materials should be able to run on Linux, Apple and Windows machines.
  • For Information Technology courses, keep the teaching focus on Java and non-Microsoft solutions. You are training the technology decision makers of tomorrow.
  • Make Linux and other Free Open Source Software (FOSS) readily available to all students and staff.

PC Manufacturers

  • Offer some PCs with Linux pre-installed. On all other PCs supply dual-boot systems with both Microsoft Windows and Linux pre-installed.
  • Bundle OpenOffice on ALL systems. If supplying dual-boot systems, include both the Windows and Linux versions of OpenOffice.
  • Supply PCs with peripherals from alternative sources.
  • Arrange to pre-install the latest Sun Java Runtime Environment (JRE) on all PCs.

Software Developers

  • Choose Java solutions (e.g. J2ME, J2SE, or J2EE) in lieu of .NET. There are lots of vendors that can help you including IBM, BEA, Sun, JBoss and Oracle. Java will also facilitate cross-platform solutions.
  • Join vendor programs from organizations such as IBM, Novell, Sun, BEA, Red Hat, Oracle, SAP, PeopleSoft, Siebel.
  • Begin migrating your development environment to Linux. Require Linux versions of all development tools.
  • If you are developing web applications, make sure they fully support non-Microsoft browsers such Mozilla and Opera.
  • Consider ways in which you can use Eclipse or Mozilla as the core building blocks for your custom applications.

IT Evangelists

  • Relentlessly pursue open or community standards. Open and community standards help everyone, not just a few.
  • Give away (or loan) live CDs such as Knoppix to contacts who use Microsoft Windows. It will allow them to test Linux without having to install it on their hard disk.
  • Give away (or loan) OpenOffice CDs, or even better the OpenCD, to contacts who use Microsoft Windows. In addition to OpenOffice and Mozilla, the OpenCD will introduce them to the benefits of FOSS for other tasks including an off-line browser, audio editing tools, image manipulation, privacy tools, screen savers, games, and more.
  • If you find an Internet site that doesnít fully support non-Microsoft browsers such as Mozilla, Opera or Konqueror, follow-up with the webmaster to request he/she fix the problem.
  • Letís eliminate proprietary terminology for what should be open standards. For example: Excel spreadsheets and PowerPoint presentations. Letís search for an appropriate vendor neutral terminology ...
  • Tell (and show) your friends the benefits of Linux and FOSS.

Embedded systems developers

  • Use embedded Linux, Palm OS or Symbian OS instead of Windows CE or Windows Mobile.
  • Move your development environment to Linux.

Microsoft competitors

  • Bottom-up marketing is almost always a better strategy than top-down marketing.
  • Pursue open and community standards.

Microsoft Employees

  • Read Judge Jacksonís Findings of Fact. Ask yourself, ďHas my company made a genuine change from its anti-competitive ways?Ē Reflect, and act accordingly.

Revision: 25 March 2004

References
Background Reference:

US DoJ Findings of Fact (1999):
http://www.usdoj.gov/...

Vendor References:
Embedded Linux News: http://www.linuxdevices.com/
Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
IBM Lotus: http://lotus.com/
Jabber clients: http://www.jabber.org/software/clients.php/
Knoppix: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
Konqueror: http://konqueror.org/
Mozilla: http://mozilla.org/
MySQL: http://www.mysql.com/
Novell Partner Locator: http://www.novell.com/partnerlocator/
OpenCD: http://theopencd.sunsite.dk/
OpenGroupware.org: http://www.opengroupware.org/
OpenOffice: http://www.openoffice.org/
Opera Software: http://www.opera.com/
Palm OS: http://www.palmsource.com/
Red Hat: http://www.redhat.com/
Samsung Contact: http://www.samsungcontact.com/en/
Sun StarOffice 7: http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/index.html
Symbian OS:
http://www.symbian.com/


© 2004 David Cartwright
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners.

This work is licensed under a Creative Commons License



  


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Abiword?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 02:40 AM EST
Hopefully not everyone is blocking out AC accounts, but I was wondering where abiword is on this list? Abiword is a great Word replacement, and I really like it. If you don't like the bloat of OO.org and just want a word processor, then Abiword is a great alternative to MS Word. Abiword will read in Word docs just fine too!

Abiword Homepage.

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: RSC on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 02:45 AM EST
Great read, thanks PJ. Words to live by I say. :)

RSC


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An Australian who IS interested.

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 03:06 AM EST

I just bought a HP Pavilion t480 (an AMD64 machine). It obviously Yuk! came with XP, but I intended to convert it to Linux ASAP. However, it comes with a cordless mouse and keyboard, and while the latter doesn't present any problems, the mouse simply doesn't work with the LiveCD of Knoppix (and a freebee from a magazine) and HP, despite all its wonderful words this week tells me that they have no interest in supporting anything other than Windoze.

People want to switch, but if manufacturers don't help, it's an uphill struggle.

Robert
prino(a)onetel(d)net(d)uk

PS: Why did I go for HP? Because I prefer an A-brand that is still around in 10 years time - this machine replaces a 16(!) year old IBM PS/2 and IBM still doesn't sell AMD64 machines.

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Safer email - and MS spin on OpenOffice
Authored by: cheros on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 03:14 AM EST
You could have a look at safer email sites (I agree with avoidng Hotmail, mostly
because it keeps you out of Passports' clutches).

Both SaFEmail (www.safe-mail.net) and Hushmail (I think it's www.hushmail.com)
offer SSL based access to email, and you can even used encrypted POP to access
it. And no annoying banners and silent appending of messages a la Yahoo
either..

As for avoiding MS, has anyone seen the 'OpenOffice vs MS Office' PDF that
Microsoft has put out? It's a good laugh, and provides plenty of object lessons
in how to spin bad news. I think Darl must have gone to the same school.
Today's example of spin is at http://tinyurl.com/3gu49 (full URL
http://members.microsoft.com/partner/salesmarketing/opensource/discguides/OpenOf
fice.pdf).

Here's a good example to laugh at: "Businesses need to make sure that their
mission critical information is adequately protected from virus attack".
I'm glad they got that point at last..

= C =

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 03:24 AM EST
Any danger of adding Apple as a vendor reference to the list at the end? YOu
do mention the Mac and the iPod early in the piece.

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OT Interesting Article re MS
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 03:33 AM EST
Some interesting qoutes in this article, specifically the reference, almost
presumptious, to the anti-trust case,

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_T
ype1&c=Article&cid=1080256210026&call_pageid=968350072197&col=96
9048863851


http://tinyurl.com/24ngh

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Groklaw's Focus
Authored by: Nathan Hand on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 03:34 AM EST

Is Groklaw's focus changing? The things that attracted me to Groklaw were:

  • lots of discussion about SCO
  • factual information related to the SCO case
  • expert opinions from people who understand the law
  • discussions of other legal matters affecting free software

The name itself - Grok Law - means to deeply understand the law. In other words, this site has legal opinions and discussion, and PJ has made it clear that she's especially interested in the legal matters surrounding free software and the SCO lawsuit. The only other site I'm aware of that does something even remotely similar is LamLaw.

But this story would be at home on any of the 1000s of generic Linux fansites. This story has only a loose tie-in to legal matters because it quickly mentions the Microsoft antitrust case. The list of "alternative software" isn't wrong, and might be helpful for people who don't read any websites except for Groklaw, but what does it have to do with grokking the law?

To be facetious, if Groklaw started doing reviews of the latest distributions, or had technical discussions of how to write device drivers, then I think everyone could agree that Groklaw was straying off course. This article isn't quite that obvious but I think it's a similar situation.

I can anticipate some people will respond that Groklaw is whatever PJ wants it to be. That's fine with me. I'm not telling PJ what to do. I'm just making an observation. A website that tries to do everything ends up doing nothing very well. Groklaw discusses the law as it affects free software very well and that makes it a uniquely valuable website. If Groklaw loses that focus then it loses a lot of the attraction to me. I'm just one person and not very important but I can't believe I'm the only person who feels the same way.

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How to break the MS loop?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 03:42 AM EST
Catch em while the're young - What do I mean - if you want to run games or
entertainment software (which is the real big bucks industry) how much can be
run on non Windows OS?

Although I work in IT my principle use of a PC outside of work is as a hobbyist,
using the web, email and Games OK I can do the first two on Linux but an average
user doesn't want complexity of multi booting, and if I still need Windows for
Games why use something else?

OK I could by a console for gaming, but I like modding and tweaking through
patches etc from the user community - My favourite simulations are Flight Sims
and Railroad Sims.

Oh dear who makes those? - Well actually the best producers at the moment are
Russians (IL-2 Sturmovik, and Lock-on) and Australian (Trainz Railroad Simulator
2004) - and you thought I was going to say Microsoft!

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  • How to break the MS loop? - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 04:19 AM EST
  • Winerack - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 10:18 AM EST
  • Flightgear? - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 11:10 AM EST
Some SCo related news from downunder
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 04:07 AM EST
<a
href="http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,2000061733,39118971,00.htm&qu
ot;>About cental link</a>

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A tale of a bit older MS->Linux conversion
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 04:18 AM EST
Here is an article from the "Troubleshooting Professional Magazine" web magazine I found very informative a few years back.

Please remember it is a bit old: many of the problems the author had in Windows to Linux conversion have been solved by newer Linux software relases, so the conversion today is simpler. But I feel it still is quite insightful, especially in discussing the motivation for leaving Windows, and it is an interesting, real-world case study.

http://www.trou bleshooters.com/tpromag/200104/200104.htm

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Another idea: Use Microsoft's own advertising campaign against them
Authored by: espeer on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 04:24 AM EST
I usually just ignore online banner advertising and the like. However, the
advertiser often pays based on the number of click-throughs that happen on the
add and not only on the number of impressions. So if enough people click on
Microsoft ad's it will start to cost them plenty $'s...

So even if you don't care about Microsoft's "Get the facts" campaign
and don't really care to read about it - click that ad!!! It may just cost them
something...

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: Retep Vosnul on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 04:49 AM EST
Do we really want to "get rid" of Microsoft like this ?
I do not believe for a minute that Microsoft is the only company that can do
what they do. I believe that lots of companies can do that even better ( and do
it better right now ).
The fine the EU put on them is comparible with, lets say, a fine for speeding.
Normaly punishing a person for speeding with a fine does not mean you aim to
plumet them into some hopeless financial position. You try to make them
"feel" that doing it again is not the smartest thing to do. Same with
Microsoft here. But as with a certain percentage of speeders they will just do
it again and again.
If Microsoft choose to just do it it again they probably didn't "feel"
it enough.

But all in all this is just bussiness. they are a company that want to make
money ( not software, like they care ! ).
In that world of bussiness there are rules that have to be followed. It's
bussiness and lets leave it at that .

If we are talking about how to stop there monopoly the discussion usually tends
to depress me.

There was a lot of talk this week about choice. Thats good.
But if only choice is what should break the stanglehold MS has on the market I
get even more depressed.

Where is the 50% marketshare for Apple systems ( excl. Ipod ). Why did we all
race to the stores to buy a VHC recorder and not a betamax or video 2000 system
?
Where is dcc recording technology ?
You could go on for months.
WHY do people tend to pick the inferieur products ??.

Mostly at this point I've hit rock bottom, WHERE IS MY WILL TO LIFE.. arrrggg.

But then the word "choice" pops up again. And in the case of
opensource, I realized, there will ALWAYS be choice.
There is NO single company that for whatever reason could possibly SHUT DOWN a
open source project.
Even the initiator of a open source product can't close it down if it's good.
And ofcourse the drive to produce a great open source programs is not linked in
any way to how much profit is attached to it directly.

I'd like to see the Microsoft imperium go belly up. but I want to see this
knowing that it is because people found something better.

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 05:06 AM EST
I've used MS since DOS 2. Converted (completely) to Linux as of WinXP. No MS
boxes here nor will there be a future purchase.

We lead by example. I agree with the article and believe that each individual
can make a difference.

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Write this in letters of gold
Authored by: Mike Calder on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 05:24 AM EST
Everybody:

------------------------------------------------------------

"Insist on open document standards that are fully supported across all the
major platforms..."

------------------------------------------------------------

Everyone can do this with no pain. Everyone would benefit.

NOW!

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Pertinent and important article
Authored by: Peter Smith on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 06:49 AM EST
I would also add to this Win4Lin from Netraverse. A tool I love.

By the way I welcome MS agressive, monopolistic, ugly, illegal, immoral
controlling behaviour. (relax, I am not a troll)

This behaviour is what will accelerate the growth of FOSS.

It will energise the programming community, encourage them to find ever better,
more innovative alternatives.

It will provide the user community with a powerful incentive to migrate from
proprietary to FOSS.

It will lose them friends and supporters.

It will embarass their friends in high places.

MS certailnly never intended this, but their behaviour is proving to be a huge
stimulus to the growth of FOSS, and for this I am grateful to them.

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Firefox...worth a try
Authored by: Powerin on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 06:55 AM EST
I recently got a call from the daughter of a friend who was starting university.
She told me IE was crashing whenever she tried to visit the university web page
that had her course information on it. Doing a quick google I found it was
caused by a specific bug in IE5.5 on Windows ME.

So I burnt her a CD with IE6 on it and as an afterthought put on Firefox 0.8 as
well, as I had just downloaded it to try out. She phoned back and complained
that IE 6 wouldn't install so I told her to try Firefox. It installed OK and she
was able to access the uni web page.

Some weeks later I did a fresh Windows re-install for these people and the one
comment from the daughter was "don't forget to re-install Firefox"

I was pleased. One small step for open source. Try Firefox...even my teenage
daughter thinks it's cool!

For myself....I only go back to Windows to use Macromedia Fireworks for some web
graphics (the Gimp's great...but doesn't do vector graphics), Homesite (Quanta
comes a close second) and some farming programs (am I the only Aussie farmer who
uses Linux?)



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OT: SCO updates gnu/gpl packages
Authored by: phrostie on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 06:58 AM EST
SCO has updated to newer version of some of those horrible GPL packages.

http://secunia.com/advisories/11218/

- OpenLinux update for mc
- OpenLinux update for CUPS
- OpenLinux update for gnupg
- OpenLinux update for tcpdump
- OpenLinux update for rsync
- OpenLinux update for screen
- OpenLinux update for fileutils
- OpenLinux update for fetchmail
- OpenLinux update for BIND
- OpenLinux update for mpg123


---
=====
phrostie
Oh I have slipped the surly bonds of DOS
and danced the skies on Linux silvered wings.
http://www.freelists.org/webpage/snafuu

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  • BIND is not GPLed - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 03:43 PM EST
  • ..piracy? - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 06:19 PM EST
Analogs of Windows software in Linux
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 07:13 AM EST
I didn't see this posted.

The table of equivalents / replacements / analogs of Windows software in Linux

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What? No mention of Ximain Evolution for e-mail replacement?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 07:31 AM EST
Note that Ximian evolution does not intend to execute code that you receive in
the mail-

see QUOTE at:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23164.html

[begin quote]

As you go over the feature list for Evolution, it becomes clear that it is
intended to become the Outlook/Outlook Express for Linux and Unix. Except in
regard to security, of course. Although I've asked Friedman the question before,
with the BADTRANS worm circulating the wild world of Windows recently, I asked
again if Evolution would be as vulnerable to such things as Outlook and Outlook
Express are. The answer was no. He explained that "we do not provide the
facility for executing code that you receive in the mail." Friedman added
that Ximian "treats all the data that comes off the network as hostile, and
we audit the code which is network facing".

[end quote]

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 07:40 AM EST
Just to add a few minor things:

>>Partition your hard drive and begin experimenting with Linux.<<

Easier yet, get a knoppix CD.


>>Seek genuine solutions to migrate from Microsoft Windows and Microsoft
Office. High quality desktop Linux offerings are already available from Red Hat,
Novell's SUSE LINUX, Mandrake, and Sun.<<

Xandros may also worth looking at, especially if you need to run some msft apps.
The deluxe version includes crossover-office and star-office.

Other alternatives for running msft apps on linux: wine, crossover-office,
vmware, win4lin.

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microsofts best helpers
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 07:45 AM EST
are those who make office/productivity programs for
Linux...

I just tried loading a minimal spreadsheet into OO (yes,
I'm attempting a total conversion to Linux in our office)
and it crashed horribly.

Also I can not seem to find a way to unhook our bookkeeper
from the chains of windows since the programs she is
familiar with (MYOB) do not have a linux port (and none
is forthcoming).

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: meke on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 07:47 AM EST
Last night I looked at banks (UK) to move my account to from TSB (as TSB are
outsourcing call centres to India) and I tried Natwest. Their online banking
check told me I could not use their online banking unless I 'upgraded' to IE6 or
Netscape 7.

I use SUSE 8.2 Pro at home and Firefox and Opera as my browsers. I could go to
Netscape (I guess) but why should I have to.

Anyway, I completed their online comments form (optimized for IE as the message
told me) and told them they had lost a potential customer and why.

A while ago when Jungle.com redirected you to the Argos site, a message appeared
to say that I could not come in as I was using Opera (identified as Opera - why
is this not the default?).
I told Opera to identify itself as IE and I had no problems.

I sent an email to Argos complaining and got a reasonable response - comments
would be passed to developers.

A couple of months later, Argos changed it's site and there are no longer
problems.


I read in a newsgroup that many people complained demonstrating the obvious - if
you don't tell 'em, they won't change.

Hit them where it hurts - in their pocket.

Most people will have similar stories and some will no doubt appear on this page
while I am writing this one.

Thanks for listening - just needed to get it off my chest.

Good work everyone, been with the site since a couple of months after it
started.

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Donít use Hotmail email ?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 07:55 AM EST
This could equally read *do* use Hotmail email !

Just use the free version, and never click on any adverts or anything that will
generate revenue for MS. Works well for me :-)

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My college
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 07:57 AM EST
I graduated a few years ago, and have been informed that the new Dean of the
Computer Science program wants to rip out all the unix servers and
infrastructure and switch to an all Microsoft based solution. It sounded like
the college would get some big grants from the company if they threw out the
unix servers and workstations. The curriculum taught a lot of universal
programming techniques, but it sounds like they will be moving towards teaching
the Microsoft platform. It made me mad, but I am not sure if there is anything
that I can do about it.

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Your right to a point...
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 07:58 AM EST
I've been reading Groklaw for a time now. And from what I have observed, this
site started off as an experiment on how the software works that powers this
site. She is really pro-OSS-Libre-Free-Linux, she needed content to test the
software so she started to write about SCO and how much it really pissed her
off. Groklaw started as an experiment, but others started to read her site
since they too were interested in hearing about SCO. Then she found out she was
popular and here we are today.

What I'm trying to say is there was never really a 'focus' to Groklaw in the
first place. It just so happened to initially deal with SCO since it's what PJ
was writing about.

What's nice tho' is the attraction of legitmate professionals to this site that
are otherwise uneducated about Linux. They come here and read the site because
of SCO, and they hear a lot about Linux but it's not Linux that brought them
here so they maybe unmotivated to research what Linux can do for them. I mean,
if you're busy and Windows works for you, why would you motivated to research
Linux? So they may come this far but not go to the next step.

But if you throw in some filler, like this article, than you make an important
contibution back to the community and to those that might not otherwise know.
They get exposure in a way that is very friendly, and easily accessable.

I for one am new to Linux. Although much of what was said in this article I
have been over before, I still read it for the PJ/Groklaw slant. But I feel
tickled everytime I read stuff like this because it shows to me the Linux tide
is rising. And the more we educate, the more the tide rises.

But what really tickles me is aticles like this show me there is good left in
humanity. Most of us do want to help others. Most of us are appaulled from
corperations generating mountains of wealth at the expense of morality. Most of
us want humanity to be free and not some futuristic horror story about mankind
becoming techno slaves force feed content to appease us so we work more
efficently for the wealthy elite. At least I don't want MS to be our new
psudeo-government overlords.

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Number numbness
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 08:01 AM EST
> However, that would be to underestimate the power of one, and the power of
a million ones. A single snowflake is a delicate thing, but a million snowflakes
together can stop traffic.

A million snowflakes together are, except in wet weather, not even enough for a
good snowball.

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  • Number numbness - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 08:03 AM EST
Correct Strategies
Authored by: Frihet on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 08:16 AM EST
These are the correct strategies. They are small actions, but they are all we
can do. Government won't do anything about Microsoft largely because it has
created and ratified the legal framework that underpins IP monopolies.
Government has essentially sold individual freedom and justice out to its newly
adopted, well-heeled, and effectively lobbied corporate constituency.

It's hard to figure out whether to laugh or cry at this week's EU monopoly
charges against Microsoft while at the very same time the EU implements new
software patent and copyright law to strengthen monopolists' hands. There is
simply no choice but individual action if we are to restore freedom and justice
to the information technology marketplace.

Added to the good list we have been given should be:

+ Write your representative leaders regularly about stifling software patent and
copyright law.
+ Vote for candidates that understand the damage caused by industry sponsored
legislation like the DMCA.

If we are faithful and relentless in our small actions over a long period of
time freedom and justice will be restored.


---
Frihet

Repeal the Digital Monopoly Conservation Act.
Write your congress folks!

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 08:24 AM EST

All good advice, except it's not that easy to follow. Personnally, i've switch to linux 100% back in '99. Ever since then, i've barely touched Windows, except at clients and school.

Recently, I wanted to buy a laptop computer. Well, the darn things all come with Windows pre-installed, unless you're ready to buy from an obscure manufacturer. I called up some manufacturers and asked for a blank hard drive and a credit for the Windows license, since I was not going to use it. All the answers I got back was : "We can't do that, but just buy it as it is and format it, we don't care". Right, but I care wether or not I pay the god damn Microsoft Tax.

So I guess i'm stuck without a laptop, but i'll be damned before Microsoft get any of my hard earned money for their shoddy products.

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Nice article, but fails to adress PC based entertainment, aka games
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 08:31 AM EST
"Looking for a games machine? The Sony PlayStation and Nintendo GameCube are excellent alternatives to the Microsoft Xbox."

If I ever want to go console, and I'm not saying I never will, it'll be a playstation because of Sony's game catalogue, pure and simple. But that's not my issue here. Allow me to spin this off on "games": I am not using Linux because of my PC based entertainment.

I write this reply, I chat on IRC, trillian open for both ICQ and MSN, have OpenOffice open and I can start whatever game I would like, if I feel the need to relax.

(I'm a university student, so work and play intermingle frequently.)

A few laps with Need for Speed Underground on Linux? Erhh, no. A skirmish with Homeworld or Homeworld 2 on Linux? Nope. Valve's Steam for few rounds of CounterStrike or Day of Defeat? No. A few rally stages with old favorite, Rally Championship 2000? Not on Linux. These two amazing playable demos of Far Cry? Ditto.

Well, I could use WINE or something similar to get the games running in Linux? Rrrright. But no. Most modern games can easily max out my hardware when running native. Squeezing it through an emulator will mean I have to sacrifice visual quality. All directX games will take a serious performance hit. Less so for OpenGL based games , but still...

The other option, to have to reboot each and every time need to switch between work and play, is in no way appealing either. I've been there, done it, but didn't feel like buying the t-shirt: I had NT4 and Win98 dualboot on my previous hardware, since I needed NT4 for stability (serious work, writing reports, research, e-mail, web, IM) and Win98 for games. Now I can do all on Windows 2000: work and play, switching takes seconds instead of a reboot.

Ok, so there is Quake 3 Arena and Team Arena for Linux. There is Unreal Tournament for Linux. Even Unreal Tournament 2003, but that has (had?) some serious issues, so almost no-one knows about UT2003 for Linux. Good ol' Half-Life is available for linux. Who knows, maybe Valve will create a Linux version for Half-Life 2, and maybe iD will do the same for DOOM III.

Other than the above, there are no modern games available for linux: Go to Sierra's website and search for 'linux': 0 results found. Ubisoft then? 0 results found for 'linux'.

So, there you have it, in a nutshell.

I'm not a fan of Microsoft. I don't like their tactics. I've worked with HP-UX 10.20, Mac OS 10.2 and old Sun machines, so I am familiar with the CLI/GUI combination you get in *nix. I like it too, so of course I would love to switch to Linux. I've given KNOPPIX a test-run too, I keep the copy in case I need to troubleshoot. But I can not make the move to Linux. Or for that matter, a sub 30 US$ student version of Sun Solaris 8 for x86.

The modern PC game market is completely dominated by Win32-based games. As long as I use my (only) PC for both work and entertainment I am stuck with Windows. So far having to use MS Windows seems less of a sacrifice than having to reboot constantly or lose a sizeable chunk of performance with WINE or the like. I would have switched to linux already if I would do much more work and much less play but it just so happens that I don't. I need to graduate from university, find a job, get a second PC so I can keep work and play physically separated, and THEN I will be able to Linux. At least for one out of two machines... Or cut down on the entertainment in the form of PC games.

Now, if you all excuse me, time allows me to do some "fragging" so I'll be dispensing, dodging and absorbing virtual bullets. And I don't need to start an emulator, nor save all my work and reboot into the proper OS, before I can start gaming.

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Microsoft seen as a psychopath
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 08:35 AM EST
There is a recent movie "The Corporation" which analyzes corporate
behavior using a standard checklist for diagnosing psychopaths. Its conclusion
is that corporations by and large behave the same way as a psychopath. They
aren't amoral like a rock (or a gun), they are psychopathic like Ted Bundy.

Given that allowing a psychopath to run the economy is probably bad for us, and
given that we know how corporations will behave if they can get away with it,
how might we change the laws to protect ourselves. Of course, we don't want to
throw the baby out with the bath water and crash the economy.

Two concepts that seem ripe for change are:

1 - Limited liability. Maybe if individuals are more responsible for the
behavior of their companies, they will behave better.

2 - Personhood. Why is a corporation allowed all the rights of a person?

In response to the poster who worried about Groklaw's change of direction: If
this isn't a legal issue, what is?

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Cygwin
Authored by: bete noire on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 09:32 AM EST
A tool I highly recommend for Windows power users is the Cygwin environment (www.cygwin.com). This gives you a real command line shell and other UNIX/Linux tools. As a developer, it's a must have when I work in an IT shop that insists on using Windows desktops.

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  • Cygwin - Authored by: TerryL on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 10:25 AM EST
  • Cygwin - Authored by: colnago on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 11:10 AM EST
    • Cygwin - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 04:16 PM EST
      • Cygwin - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 05:19 PM EST
        • Cygwin - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 27 2004 @ 12:46 AM EST
Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 10:35 AM EST

That's the thing, finding a desktop or Workstation class machine is easy. Heck i'd build one of those by buying parts from a store.

The keyword here is laptop. I wouldn't build a laptop from different parts, nor would I buy those cheap ass generic no warranty laptops from a distributor. I haven't found a linux PC maker yet that sells laptops (like penguincomputing or Pogo Linux).

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Changing times
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 11:12 AM EST
I'm also in favour of separating the causes some more.
Although many articles about Mickysoft et all are interesting, it is not my main
reason to visit the site.

I would love to see a more clear separation of the SCO / RH / Novell analysis
and the other generic topics.
Maybe switching soft from geeklog to some other soft will be able to do this.

(e.g. phpBB, with catagories for each of the legal battles)

Erik

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Throwing Sand in SCO's Gears
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 11:31 AM EST
Here's an article from the German front.

German company clogs SCO's legal machine

In an interview last week with the German edition of the Financial Times newspaper, Gregory Blepp, vice president of licensing at SCO in the U.S., said he was working with great intensity to create legal conditions that require Linux users in Germany to purchase SCO's intellectual property licenses.

"This statement is a bit astonishing," Ganten said. "It would really surprise us if SCO is already trying to breach our out-of-court settlement less than one month after signing it."

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 11:48 AM EST
A table of Linux equivalents of Windows programs is available here. It's a
little outdated but the info is still very useful.

http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 12:06 PM EST
Something turned the direction of scox stock rates, i wonder what is the big
news!

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Congressmen got bribed by Microsoft!
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 12:42 PM EST

10 US congressmen sent a letter to the Monti, regarding their anti-trust ruling.
This is what I could find from the congressmen:

Financial linkage to Microsoft:
Robert Wexler
Peter King
Dan Burton
Gregory Meeks
Steve Chabot
Joseph Crowley
Jo Ann Davis
Adam Schiff
Mark Green
Chris Bell

1) Robert Wexler
Donated $500 from microsoft
http://www.opensecrets.org/alerts/v5/alertv5_33b.asp


2) Dan Burton:
Rep. Nancy Pelosi, a liberal Democrat from San Francisco, received $1,000, the
same as conservative Republican Rep. Dan Burton of Indiana. Liberal Democratic
Rep. Charles Rangel of New York took in $4,000 from Microsoft, while
conservative Republican Rep. Dick Armey of Texas received $5,000.
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0701-07.htm


4) Steve Chabot
Donated $6000 from Microsoft
http://www.opensecrets.org/pressreleases/microsoft/house00.htm

5) Joseph Crowley
http://www.opensecrets.org/pressreleases/microsoft/house00.htm
Donated $500 from Microsoft

6) Jo Ann Davis
http://www.opensecrets.org/pressreleases/microsoft/house00.htm
Donated $1500 from Microsoft

7) Adam Schiff
Donated $2000 from Microsoft
http://www.opensecrets.org/pressreleases/microsoft/house00.htm

8) Mark Green
Donated $3000 from Microsoft
http://www.opensecrets.org/pressreleases/microsoft/house00.htm

9) Chris Bell











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Open Source in Windows -- a strategy
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 12:53 PM EST
Migrate to open source apps while you're still in Windows. Do a Google search on
"open source windows," "GNU Windows," "Win GNU,"
or "GNU Win." Once you make the switch to Linux or FreeBSD, your users
will already be there before you.

Some good alternatives suggested so far: Open Office, AbiWord, the Mozillas,
Opera.

But also try the GIMP, which just released the 2.0 version, which is also
available for Windows. Until Adobe ports Photoshop to Linux, try GIMP for
Windows. It's not quite Photoshop, but it might be worth a try to see if it
meets your needs.

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OT - HP sues Gateway over copyrights
Authored by: Cal on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 12:59 PM EST
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/51/36569.html

HP has sued Gateway for patent infringement. I'm surprised this hasn't been picked up and discussed as this is one of the big fears for Open Source Software. Even though HP is currently an 'ally', and I use that term loosely, you never know when that might change a la SCOG.

Unlike other large corporations, F/OSS does not have a large patent portfolio that enables them to balance the scales when playing "Mutally Assured Litigation", as The Register so succinctly puts it.

The worst part is that the move towards litigation and licensing as a business model is no longer unique to SCOG, but is being picked up by companies who can actually wield a large stick if they choose to. It is beginning to appear that SCOG was merely pushing back the frontier, and pointing the way towards (supposedly) higher profits with little effort by the litigating company. Now the companies with actual patent portfolios are following the path. And, yes, this includes Microsoft, as they have begun licensing older technology such as FAT and FAT32, while hiring people to start up their licensing division.

I beginning to be afraid that things are going to get worse before they get better.

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Microsoft Natural Keyboards
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 02:14 PM EST
Sadly, no one has yet come up with a keyboard as comfortable for me as the original Microsoft Natural Keyboard. Not their new ones, not the Kinesis, not anything else at keyalt.com.

At this point, the only place I can get those is (occasionally) scrounging a used one in some used components pile.

All the newer ones have too low of humps, or are too big with those stupid buttons on top, or are missing the kickstand, or have funky-sized keys, or bad key feedback, or a cross instead of a T for the cursor keys.

Sadly, for reasons of being able to type for 12-16 hours per day, I am stuck. Fortunately, it's not money going into Microsoft's pockets today, since I'm just scrounging old parts :-)

(I'll admit, though, that if I could eliminate just the numeric keypad so the darn thing wasn't quite so wide, I'd be super super happy.)

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Avoiding MS Office is currently a stupid waste of time. Using old copies is a better idea.
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 02:24 PM EST
In any given business it is just not practical to avoid Microsoft Office. From
a manager's standpoint, Office costs like $200 as an OEM addon to each computer,
which is chicken feed. Of course it's worth it. Because everybody in the
business world uses Office, it's 100% required that each worker be able to
exchange documents with no compatibility headache, and therefore it's not even
worth the manager's time to debate whether it's worth $200 for software that
makes an employee productive for, say, 2 years before they get another computer.
(In non-tech fields, make it 4 years.)

The attempt to replace MS Office with alternatives is quixotic and a waste of
effort. Instead of trying to convince management, try improving OpenOffice, or
something, so that one day it won't be quixotic.

If you object to giving Microsoft more money, then a more practical alternative
is that when new computers are purchased, locate the old OEM versions of Office
that your business purchased for the previous computers, remove Office from
those computers, and install it on the new ones. The old software works just
fine. Word and Excel docs will still be compatible with documents you get from
other people who are using Office XP. You'll be able to save some (admittedly
chickenfeed) amount of money while using software that won't worry anybody in
the building.

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A world without Microsoft?
Authored by: emmenjay on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 03:00 PM EST
The vibe that I pick up from Groklaw is that Microsoft are considered basically
bottom-feaders: the lowest of the low, competing with SCO for the title of
"scum of the earth".

Having dealt with the company and its products for around 20 years, I have a
great deal of sympathy for that view. I could tell some great stories, but I
can't afford the legal fees. (Aren't NDA's great).

It has been a great source of pleasure, in the last few years, to see some fine
open source products like Linux, Apache and Open Office emerge as serious
alternatives to Microsoft products.

However, unlike many Groklaw readers, I am not philosophically attached to open
source as a development practice. As a computer user, I want good products. If
they come from Microsoft, Apple or an open source group, I don't really mind.

Now look back five years, with few competitors in the industry Microsoft had
lost what little incentive it ever had to produce quality products. Everything
was organised around upgrade cycles, maximising revenue. This led to
obscenities like Windows ME - possibly the worst product ever released.

But go back further, to the late 80s and it was a different story. Word Perfect
owned the WP market and Lotus 123 the spreadsheet market. Microsoft actually
produced a few real innovations. Competition was the key.

OK, back to the present. Linux and co have shaken up Microsoft. They're
actually trying to make their OSes stable. XP is far from perfect, but is
generations ahead of the horid trio: Win95, Win98 and Win ME.

Now there has been a lot of talk about what happens if open source takes over
the world.

Ignoring, for now, the economic issues, I don't think it would really be a good
thing. How long would open source projects keep the "fire in the
belly" if there was nothing to compete against?

I'm looking forward to a world where open source continues to grow and to offer
more choices, but where commercial developers (like Microsoft) still exist, but
where they have to produce quality software to have any hope of competing with
open source.

As the consumer, I'll sit back and choose the best solution for every problem -
open source or commercial.

Life is good.

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Microsoft Hardware
Authored by: rmorrish on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 03:43 PM EST
If only Microsoft's software was in a similar market to its hardware. Microsoft
sells superior mice, keyboards, etc. at competitive prices. They have to,
because they do not have a monopoly. There are certainly better mice, and there
are cheaper mice, but (unlike operating systems) there are no mice that are both
significantly better AND significantly cheaper.

Free market capitalism at its finest. You'd think red-blooded american
capitalists like Gates & McBride would be all in favor of it.

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OT: old links of interest to Groklaw readers
Authored by: randall on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 04:44 PM EST

While trying to organize some of my thousands of bookmarks, I ran across the following old links, which might be of interest to Groklaw readers.

---
Randall - www.whizman.com

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 04:46 PM EST
Hello PJ!

Could you add Mandrake (www.mandrakelinux.com) as
a vendor reference ?
Keep up with the good job PJ, groklaw is really amazing !
Regards,

Stephane

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Microsoft and the law
Authored by: kurt555gs on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 04:57 PM EST
This is simple, Gates knows that with 50 billion dollars, Microsoft is simply
above the law.

He could snicker at and lie to a fedral judge, then have the judge replaced.

The US Justice Department is obviously in his pocket over the EU fine and the
settlement.

Something drastic will have to happen before this changes. Untill then Gates,
Balmer and all the paid minions of Microsoft can do whatever they want, and
know that nothing can or will be doen to stop then.

And smile doing it.



---

* Kurt *

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: zcat on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 05:08 PM EST
http://theopencd.sunsite.dk/ is a small collection of high quality Free
software, including Mozilla, OpenOffice, and GIMP. I burn off a stack of these
at a time. I'm often asked to sort out virus/spyware problems, and after
removing the offending malware I suggest using Mozilla as a more secure
alternative for web and mail, OOo if they don't already have MS Office (or even
if they do, but have problems with it), and GIMP if they have a camera or
scanner.

Then I tell them to keep the CD and have a play with the other software if they
want.

http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/ is a much larger collection of Free software, although
not quite as 'polished' as TheOpenCD.

I also suggest keeping a CD with the flash plugin, Java, etc, since they're only
'beer' free and not on either of these CD's. Most users are not happy with
Mozilla if they think they have to load flash and java all over again. :(

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, March 26 2004 @ 05:40 PM EST
first, this is not a trolling post. ok? good. =)

i am a mixed os guy [win, linux and just started a job working in aix] and i can
understand the desire to not use ms products. however, i find that too often
people don't go any further than ms=bad, which is short-sighted and logically
flawed thinking imho.

while choice is good and using those alternatives can also be good, i would
suggest that several of the companies mentioned above [eg sony, nintendo and
apple] are equally detestable in their business practices and their commitment
to open standards.

simply dropping one monopoly in exchange for another wannabe monopoly is not an
effective answer to this problem. you have to look further than simply
supporting the opposition. you have to look at the opposition and decide whether
they represent the virtues you're looking for.

for example, switching to linux on intel is perhaps better than staying with ms
on intel, but intel are pretty evil in and of themselves. they are just better
at not writing everything down.

and while mac hardware is slowly becoming standard-compliant, it still contains
many proprietary elements. also, while much smaller than ms, the apple business
model is very similar. buy out small third party developers and integrate [aka
bundle] their own version of the app into their os or kill windows versions.
macromedia was the original owner of final cut [originally a cross-platform app]
before apple bought it. apple killed logic audio for win when they bought the
comapny a year or two ago stranding roughly 30% of the installed user base.

to be honest, this is a very difficult question and i don't claim to have all
the answers. however, it pains me greatly to see overly simplistic and
counter-productive "solutions" proposed.

just my 2 cents.

sum.zero

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OT: I blinked and missed something
Authored by: davcefai on Saturday, March 27 2004 @ 02:06 AM EST
In the past couple of weeks I have come across a number of articles/posts where
Microsoft is referred to as "The Vole".

Could somebody enlighten me about this please?

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  • Vole - Authored by: Wesley_Parish on Saturday, March 27 2004 @ 05:26 AM EST
    • Vole - Authored by: davcefai on Saturday, March 27 2004 @ 01:48 PM EST
Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 27 2004 @ 02:26 AM EST
Re:
"Looking for a games machine? The Sony PlayStation and Nintendo GameCube
are excellent alternatives to the Microsoft Xbox"

This is the only part of the article that I don't agree with
100%. My take is as follows:

Don't use it for games --- run our favorite OS - Linux!!

An X-box supposedly costs M$S $280. to manufacture. They
are currently retailing for $180. (Rumor has it dropping to
$150. next month.) M$S is planning on making their profit
on the games and the on-line gaming.

Let's all let M$S subsidize our hardware!

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MSFree
Authored by: FrankH on Saturday, March 27 2004 @ 06:15 AM EST
MSFree (www.msfree.com) has a list of Microsoft alternatives.

There are also several interesting articles and links to articles including XP Connects To Microsoft In At Least 18 Ways (www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm)

Well I thought it was interesting anyway. It was one of the things that decided me to start looking for a viable alternative to Windows 2K.

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resource to additional alternatives
Authored by: tverbeek on Saturday, March 27 2004 @ 07:44 AM EST
I've spent a fair amount of time researching alternatives to MS products, which I list on my site Alternatives to Microsoft. My goal is to list several alternatives to every program or service Microsoft sells or subsidizes. I've tried to suggest options for the first small steps people can take off The Microsoft Way (e.g. lots of Win apps) as well as demonstrating that it's also possible to live an entirely MS-free lifestyle by listing apps for OS X, unices, etc. Other than the non-MS tone and a warning about the expected collapse of UnixWare's vendor, I've tried to keep it non-partisan and inclusive, with commercial, free(beer), and free(speech) options. Suggestions for additional items are always welcome.

(There's also a slightly more "strident" version with the same info but with more of a rally-the-troops preach-to-the-choir theme: Just Say NO to Microsoft.

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: espeer on Saturday, March 27 2004 @ 10:09 AM EST
I guess that's fine too... It won't make them broke but at least a portion of
their maximum budgeted amount is wasted on me. Hopefully as a result, their
campaign may not be seen by some other gullible person that might be swayed by
their marketing hype. Either way... I'll just keep clicking those ads when I see
them. For all I know they've budgeted quite a bit...

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 27 2004 @ 10:18 AM EST
Many no-name laptops are actually identical to brand name laptops. For example,
I have a Chembook 3020E, which is a Compal ACL10 (not Compaq). It is in fact
identical to a Toshiba laptop (not sure which model) in every way except the
name. Do your research and find out the true brand of laptop you have (Compal),
not who sells it (chembook or toshiba).

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Microsoft Strategies for Lovers of Freedom and Justice - by David Cartwright
Authored by: kedens on Saturday, March 27 2004 @ 10:45 AM EST
I notice that there are increasingly many sites that do not support or say they
do not support browsers other than Internet Explorer (i.e. sections of Bank of
America, certain parts of kinkos). I think it would be a great idea if we made a
list of these sites and that way we could all email the web-masters. I notice
that when I send an email it doesn't seem to do any good, but I know that
thousands of emails just like snowflakes can do something. If need be I can
create a page on my own site (although I'm not set up for a high volume of
traffic). Let me know what you think.

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Developer strategies
Authored by: cgreuter on Saturday, March 27 2004 @ 02:12 PM EST
One of the things the article misses in its strategies for developers
is the use of cross-platform libraries such as Qt, wxWindows or
Tcl/Tk. With one of those and some discipline, it is possible to
write desktop applications in C or C++ that are one recompile away
from running under Windows, MacOS-X, Linux or any other reasonable
flavour of Unix.

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