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There Must Be Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 08:00 AM EST

Scott Lazar, who wrote the Grinch That Stole Linux for Groklaw, has been inspired again, this time by the last article where I wrote, "So that's the plan, Stan", and has come up with another parody for us, Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows. Enjoy.

*********************************
Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows,

by Scott Lazar


"The problem is all inside your OS",
Linus said to me
The answer is easy if you
Take it logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle
To be free
There must be fifty ways
To leave your Windows

He said it's really not my habit
To intrude
Furthermore, I hope my coding
Won't be lost or misconstrued
But I created it myself
Despite IBM being sued
There must be fifty ways
To leave your Windows
Fifty ways to leave your Windows

CHORUS:
Ooo try the new Red Hat,
Or the new SuSE, Bruce
You don't need XP Pro, Joe
Just get yourself free
Hop on the F/OSS, Gus
You don't need to spend much
Just download with ease, Lee
And get yourself free

Linus said it grieves me so
To see your server in such pain
I know there is much you can do
To make it secure again
I said I appreciate that
And would you please explain
About the fifty ways

Linus said why don't you
Just give it a try tonight
And I believe very shortly
You'll begin to see the light
And then I tried it
And realized Linus was absolutely right
There must be fifty ways
To leave your Windows
Fifty ways to leave your Windows

CHORUS:
Ooo try the new Red Hat,
Or the new SuSE, Bruce
You don't need XP Pro, Joe
Just listen to me
Hop on the F/OSS, Gus
You don't need to spend much
Just download with ease, Lee
And get yourself free



Copyright © 2003 Scott Lazar

In appreciation and thanks to Paul Simon.
http://www.paulsimon.com/index_main.html

  


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Technically right, but
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 08:11 AM EST
Before that will happen - there must be games, games, and more games.

I am speaking as a father of one 13 yo girl and a 9 yo son.

We are using Linux on our 2nd (slower) machine, but the kids won't touch it.

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There Must Be Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Authored by: the_flatlander on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 08:19 AM EST
Whistle, whistle. Wahoo. Encore! Encore!

clap clap clap clap clap

Very nice. Clever.

Where's my lighter?

TFL

I hope Paul Simon doesn't take this wrong...

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There Must Be Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 08:19 AM EST
As a testimonial, I finally got rid of the Win95 partition on the 5x86 120 in
the basement over the weekend, replacing it with Caldera OpenLinux 2.3. The
process was smooth and seamless in comparison to the torture of a Win install
(in dim recollection after ~7 years). Performance is quite good and hardware
autodetection got essentially everything, with the expected exception of the
ProSonic 16, which I'll have to probe for using the isapnptools (included in
the distro). I now have an adequate, multiuser machine from what had been an
obsolete hulk. Kudos to Caldera for a well packaged distro. Thanks Darl.

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Brilliant!
Authored by: Tim Ransom on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 08:36 AM EST
:D

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There Must Be Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 09:03 AM EST
What? The lyrics aren't gpl'd?

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  • GPL ? - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 09:55 AM EST
There Must Be Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 09:15 AM EST
If you want people to leave MS Windows and move to Linux then the following
situations are going to have to be addressed.

This is based on installation Mandrake 9.1 in a IBM Thinkpad A30P and may not be
representative of other’s needs.

Equipment
1. The version of Thinkpad being reviewed came factory equipped with a modem and
two Ethernet ports – one for DSL and one for IBM’s version of internal
wireless.

2. The computer also comes with a joy stick type mouse and a video port for an
external monitor.


Issues are based on a non techie ability to configure the system WITH OUT
additional technical help.
Issues
1. The modem supplied is a Lucent Technology Win Modem. While there are Win
Modem drivers for some Lucent Technology Win Modems the one in the Thinkpad is
not currently supported. To solve this issue a full PCMCI modem is being used.

2. One can easy configure the Thinkpad to use either the Ethernet or the modem
but NOT BOTH. Note this is a laptop so it is moved from location to location at
which some have wireless, some only DSL, some only phone and unfortunately
others nothing. So while all means on connection are required only one is used
at a time.

3. This being a laptop it is used for presentations. Configuration of the
external video port is NOT a configuration option.

4. This laptop uses a joy stick for a mouse. Two button mini mice are readily
available that work very well. Configuration of two mice is not a configuration
option.

5. Open Office Word is currently about on par with MS Word 4. Major issue is cut
and past special characters specifically tab and paragraph controls plus others.
Modification of these control codes is paramount in reconfiguration of certain
word process documents for presentation in a usable format.

6. Open Office does not have an easy configurable simple data base for use with
small sets of data.

7. Cut and Past has to be made to work at all times. Currently cut and past
works great in Gnome or KDE but not between Gnome programs and KDE programs.

Note: As a techie I have all these items working in MY computer.
BUT!
As far as a none techie ability to handle these issues that is another matter.

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There Must Be Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Authored by: wvhillbilly on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 09:41 AM EST
I am running Red Hat 9 on a AMD K6-2 366 MHZ and it is slower than slow. Much
slower than Windows 98. Yet I see some say the Linux they are using is much
faster than Windows. I have 196 MB RAM on a Chaintech motherboard with Award
BIOS and a 20 GB hard drive which I would think to be more than adequate. Can
someone please point me to somewhere or someone that can help me get it up to
speed?

Thanks.


---
What goes around comes around, and it grows as it goes.

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Play Free Bird!
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 09:43 AM EST

Ah, man, I always get to the concert late.

This is based on installation Mandrake 9.1 in a IBM Thinkpad A30P and may not be representative of other’s needs.

I'm not sure I'd pick Mandrake for a laptop. Maybe Xandros 2.0 would work better for you. It has more of a business flavor about it (formerly Corel Linux). It comes with CodeWeaver so you can run MS Word, Excel and Photoshop right out of the box.

5. Open Office Word is currently about on par with MS Word 4. Major issue is cut and past special characters specifically tab and paragraph controls plus others.

Hmmm, which version of OO comes with Mandrake? Is it 1.0 or 1.1? I'd give OO Writer in 1.1 a better rating than Word 4. Even started using it at the office to make our forms because you can export them as PDF's.

I'm always amused by people who say x-y-z have to be addressed before Linux can go anywhere. It's going just fine. Windows issues aren't any less vexing, it's just a different set of problems. With XP it's bloat, speed and security.

Personally, I'd rather deal with the setup issues and have a more secure PC at the end than have a no brainer set up and have to constantly worry about the virus of the day. My buddy has an XP network at the office. He spends more time working on his five machines in a week than I work on any of my Linux boxes in six months. And every time I go in that pop-up spyware has wiggled its way back on to his machines again. Nothing like bringing a customer in and having porn pop ups flashing invitingly on the desktops.

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OT: News Links
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 09:50 AM EST
NZ SCO (contains SCO quotes)
http://www.computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/UNID/D37286F3D6AE3273CC256E21000F7AE6?Op
enDocument

Red Hat warranty
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1445761,00.asp
http://www.crn.com/sections/BreakingNews/dailyarchives.asp?ArticleID=47334

Australia SCO (SCO quotes)
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/applications/0,39020384,39119204,00.htm

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There Must Be Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 10:05 AM EST
i believe the correct term to be "fair use" which covers parody and

educational purposes and.

What Weird Al needs permission to get is the music and not the text,
since he doesn't modify the music (and if he did it can hardly be called
parodic IMO)

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There Must Be Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 10:22 AM EST
Actually my slightly older kids (15 and 17) will fire up Linux to play the KDE
and GNOME games... but dont really care to use it for anything else... They
inform me that I am a geek and that Linux is for geeks...(neither of which is
really true, but how do you argue logically with those who prefer to use win98!
)

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There Must Be Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Authored by: Scriptwriter on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 10:40 AM EST
Good job!

Might I suggest "Hop on the F/OSS, Boss" for a slightly better
rhyme?

I've long felt that the FOSS movement needed some catchy tunes.

---
He who sells / What isn't his'n / Is headed for / Some time / In prison /
Burma-Shave

irc.fdfnet.net #groklaw

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Kids Gaming and Linux
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 10:53 AM EST
Im 16 and i think saying that linux *needs* games is a fallacy, i play games in
win98 and my school work and internet browsing in linux, as linux is free it
dosent really disadvantage me other than i know my school work isnt going to die
on me (like it has in windows) due to some "Sercurity Flaw" so i
dont think it is needed to conquer the desktop but it would be cool if linux
could play all my windows games.

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My Favorite Parody
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 12:07 PM EST
The Princess Bride

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Here are the first twenty-five ways
Authored by: Scriptwriter on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 12:57 PM EST
(Warning! Keyboard immersion alert!)

Back in '76 Rolling Stone produced a list of 50 ways to leave your lover, most
more whimsical than Simon's (like "Get on the trolley, Ollie"). In
that spirit I set out to compile a list of fifty ways to leave your Windows, but
so far have only gotten so far as 30. Perhaps the community can supply the
rest?

(c) 2004 Scriptwriter, released under the GPL.

Fire up the FOSS, Boss
Put your data on the bus, Gus
Load a copy of vim, Jim
Look it up in man, Stan
Write your apps in C, Lee
Make Google your pal, Al
No more BSoD, McGee
Don't need no SCO, Joe
Stick it to Bill, Phil
Never have to reset, Chet
Make your Pentium fly, Guy
Liberate your CPU, Stew
Load up the SUSE, Bruce
Do an install, Paul
Compile your kernel, Vernal
Turn the monitor on, John
Set your pager to less, Jess
Make an RPM, Clem
Use a USB drive, Clive
Your TCO's fallin', Colin
Filter your spam, Sam
Your computer will rock, Doc
Get your Ethernet set, Rhett
Take your privacy back, Jack
Escape DLL hell, Mel
No more registry woe, Moe
Get away from the FUD, Bud
Connect your database, Ace
Serve your stuff on the web, Jeb
Write the scripts in Perl, Earl

---
He who sells / What isn't his'n / Is headed for / Some time / In prison /
Burma-Shave

irc.fdfnet.net #groklaw

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Vaporware Awards SCO a Raspberry
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 01:03 PM EST
Vaporware: Nuke 'Em if Yoa Got 'Em
Meanwhile, dishonorable mentions go to SCO for the as-yet-unseen Unix code that the company alleges was ripped off in Linux, and to Microsoft for its "secure computing initiative" and the ever-slipping ship date for Longhorn, which is shaping up to be a very promising candidate for the Vaporware awards in 2006, 2007 and maybe even 2008.
very appropos including these two companies in the same paragraph.

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OT - Redhat to offer their indemnification now
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 01:37 PM EST
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/01/20/1728236&mode=thread&tid=110&
amp;tid=187&tid=88

http://www.redhat.com/apps/redirect.apm/about/presscenter/2004/press_OS_assuranc
e.html?rhpage=/index.html/ent_news**

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OT - Enderle's at it again
Authored by: stanmuffin on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 01:50 PM EST
Here is Enderle's latest fluff piece on Linux. I'll let you read his convoluted view of marketplace FUD for yourself, but I couldn't resist posting this quote. Take a look at this incisive analysis:
One of the ways you can tell is by looking at the recent financial numbers from HP (NYSE: HPQ) and IBM. IBM is reporting about US$1 billion in Linux-related revenue, while HP is reporting $2.5 billion. To me, that says the value of indemnification and not being part of the SCO action is worth $1.5 billion to HP and has cost IBM at least that much in lost revenue.

Is this what analysts are supposed to do? He hasn't looked into the differences between IBM's and HP's business models, or even determined whether the two figures are actually comparing the same thing. He just ascribed the difference between the two numbers to the fact that HP offers indemnity.

That seems to be a very hasty conclusion to me. Maybe HP's Linux revenue figures include toner cartridge purchases from Linux-based datacenters. You never know.

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Sorry Carly II
Authored by: jtsteward on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 01:51 PM EST
While we are doing parodies ...
If you want to see Sorry Carly I
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20031204233657111#c30141


You walked into the courtroom like you were walking onto a yacht
Judge Wells strategically punched below one eye
Your tie it was on too tight
You had one eye in the mirror as you watched yourself gavotte
And you dreamed that you could extort any Unix partner
Dollars from your partner, and....

You're so vain, you probably think this site is about you
You're so vain, I'll bet you think this site is about you
Don't you? Don't you?

Caldera sued Microsoft years ago when everyone was still quite naive
Well you said that they made such a pretty penny
a much larger payoff you did conceive

But at SCO you wasted away the things you bought and one of them was UnixWare
You had some dreams they were clouds in my kernel, clouds in my kernel and....

You're so vain, you probably think this site is about you
You're so vain, I'll bet you think this site is about you
Don't you? Don't you?

Well I hear you went up to Redmond your extortion somehow won
Then you flew your Lear jet up to Santa Clara to see the total collapse of the
Sun
Well, you're where you should be all of the time
And when you're not you're with
Some underworld spy or spewing out new FUD
A scumbag lawyer trying to sue a customer, and....

You're so vain, you probably think this site is about you
You're so vain, I'll bet you think this site is about you
Don't you? Don't you?



---
-------------------------------------------------
Darl needs more bullets, he keeps hitting his foot but he won't go down

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Enderle's Geyser of Idiocy Goes Off Again
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 01:51 PM EST
I'm not giving you the link. I'm not providing a quote. Suffice to say that Enderle has proven yet again just what a feeble witted one note flack he is - I look forward to him completeing his ascent into the lightbulb of professional suicide, only so I can immediately forget him.
Thanks again,

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Six more Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Authored by: tce on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 02:34 PM EST
Skip the ELUA, Bula
DeCrypt the DOC, Spock
Cut the Updates, Bates
Pick your own Codex, Joe-dex
Stop that WinCE, Vince
The (ms)Blasters, in the Past, Marcass

-- Tom

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MP3?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 02:37 PM EST
Wheres the .mp3 for it?
;)

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There Must Be Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 02:50 PM EST
If there was a version of Quicken and TurboTax for Linux, I believe people would
try Linux at home. Until this happens, there won't be any great migration from
MS Windows to Linux. I have two boxes at home, one Linux and one Windows, and I
have very little reason to use the Linux box. I like it better, but even with
the fact it does not have the problems Windows does, I don't have any real
reason to use it exclusively.

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The ministry of dirty tricks again.
Authored by: iZm on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 03:14 PM EST

M$ dirty dealings again.

---
Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward.

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Fifty Ways To Go Off Topic...
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 03:26 PM EST
Are We Running low on SCO Scoop?

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There Must Be Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Authored by: maxhrk on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 03:36 PM EST
Hello Pj, been while since i post on this groklaw.net I just hiding and click to
see what's up on groklaw.net without making any comments. :).

Anyway I got mandrake 8.2 up and running good and yes it is old product anyway,
not anything new. few months back when my monitor broken down so i have to wait
few month and get new one and had mandrake up and running good. I am still
learning about linux and all that.

Anyway, Some browser act weird sometime and i cant even install newer version of
glibc (RPM) instead of old one. it is funny that my mozilla browser exit
silently without any display of error.

finally, other than that, I likes it. I am about to buy new SuSe by next month
hopefully. I am still learning slowly in process to know about linux. :)



Cheer.

P.S. execuse my grammar errors if any.

---

Sincerely,
Richard M.

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OT - SCO files suit against Novell..
Authored by: eamacnaghten on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 03:37 PM EST
Sco to sue Novell...

http://biz.yahoo.com/pr news/040120/latu099_1.html

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SCO files lawsuit against Novell
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 03:41 PM EST
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=SVBIZINK3.story&STORY=/www
/story/01-20-2004/0002092621&EDATE=TUE+Jan+20+2004,+03:25+PM

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Off Topic but... its interesting news
Authored by: pfusco on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 04:09 PM EST
SCO is now suing Novell for "Title Slander". Heres http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=SVBIZINK3.story&STORY=/www /story/01-20-2004/0002092621&EDATE=TUE+Jan+20+2004,+03:25+PM the link to the story.

---
only the soul matters in the end

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Thoughts on Novell lawsuit
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 04:16 PM EST
1. What happened about the Novell audit?

Novell have been waiting on a response for some time and I don't see a SCO
response on Novell's site.

I was under the impression the deadline (on SCO) was now or near.

Could it pre-emptive SCO strike because of this?


2. SCO presumably intend to give some of the docs that Santa had, to IBM
imminently.

Presumably that includes the Sun and Novell licenses from SCO.

If IBM gets them, maybe SCO is worried how Novell would react (see point 1, my
understanding is these are among the issues of the audit).

Could it pre-emptive SCO strike because of this?


3. Has IBM responded at all to SCO's Jan 12 filing?

I've noticed that (nearly?) everybody on groklaw who has commented, seems to be
thinking, that things are likely to go south for SCO in the IBM case soon.


Could it pre-emptive SCO strike because of this?


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SCO Sues Novell: Body of PR Statement
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 04:47 PM EST

Here's the body of the PR Statement

LINDON, Utah, Jan. 20 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The SCO Group, Inc., the owner of the UNIX® operating system and a leading provider of UNIX-based solutions, today filed suit against Novell for its alleged bad faith effort to interfere with SCO's rights with respect to UNIX and UnixWare®. Among the allegations in the suit:

* Novell has improperly filed copyright registrations in the United States Copyright Office for UNIX technology covered by SCO's copyrights.

* Novell has made false and misleading public claims that it, and not SCO, owns the UNIX and UnixWare copyrights.

* Novell has made false statements with the intent to pause customers and potential customers to not do business with SCO.

* Novell has attempted, in bad faith, to block SCO's ability to enforce its copyrights.

* Novell's false and misleading representations that it owns the UNIX and UnixWare copyrights has caused SCO irreparable harm to its copyrights, its business, and its reputation.

The lawsuit, filed in Utah State court, in Salt Lake City, requests preliminary and permanent injunctive relief as well as damages. The injunction would require Novell to assign to SCO all copyrights that Novell has wrongfully registered, prevent Novell from representing any ownership interest in those copyrights, and require Novell to retract or withdraw all representations it has made regarding its purported ownership of those copyrights.

"SCO takes this action today given Novell's recent and repeated announcements regarding their claimed ownership of the UNIX and UnixWare copyrights. SCO has received many questions about Novell's actions from potential customers, investors and the press. Although SCO owns the UNIX and UnixWare copyrights, Novell's efforts to claim ownership of these copyrights has forced this action," said Mark Heise, partner, Boies, Schiller and Flexner, LLP. "We encourage the public and commercial Linux users to read the Asset Purchase Agreement from 1995 (including Attachment E found at www.sco.com/novell) and Amendment 2 so they can see for themselves that SCO owns the copyrights to UNIX and UnixWare."

The lawsuit seeks damages in an amount to be proven at trial for Novell's alleged slander of SCO's title to the UNIX and UnixWare copyrights. In addition, the lawsuit seeks punitive damages in an amount to be proven at trial for Novell's malicious and willful conduct.

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OT: Novel lawsuit
Authored by: minkwe on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 04:50 PM EST
Was attachment E available before?

It appears SCO bought copyright to programmer guides and manuals. If Heise is
referring to them in the press release, the it means the bofoon thinks
attatchment E refers to unix code. :)))

---
SCO's lawsuit is a little like locking the door on Martin Luther King Jr.'s jail
cell and expecting to stop the civil rights movement. [C|net]

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OT: SCO sues Novell
Authored by: lnx4me on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 04:57 PM EST
Hmm, heating up a bit, check article

The lawsuit, filed in Utah State court, in Salt Lake City, requests preliminary and permanent injunctive relief as well as damages. The injunction would require Novell to assign to SCO all copyrights that Novell has wrongfully registered, prevent Novell from representing any ownership interest in those copyrights, and require Novell to retract or withdraw all representations it has made regarding its purported ownership of those copyrights.

Bob

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Open Group
Authored by: pfusco on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 05:18 PM EST
When is the Open Group going to step in and mention that they own the trademark
to Unix? I mean they have been on the sidelines for far to long.

---
only the soul matters in the end

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OT Novell Suit
Authored by: jtsteward on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 05:21 PM EST
What are the chances someone in SLC can get to the courthouse by the end of the
day?


---
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Darl needs more bullets, he keeps hitting his foot but he won't go down

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Is this a record?
Authored by: geoff lane on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 05:26 PM EST
Surely SCO must be the holder of the highest legal costs to profit ratio in
history :-)

It's difficult to know what SCOv2 can do now. Having to fight for clear
ownership of Unix copyright in the courts is going to take years, cost a
fortune, and in the mean time nobody will be buying licenses. But Unix is just
not worth the fight -- whats the estimated value of Unix? $50M or so? That's
about the same as the recent cash injection -- but now even that money has a
doubtfull ownership. I would guess that Novell will put in a claim for it's
95% share and ask the court to freeze it until the claim is settled.

It's a good day to die, SCO.

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There Must Be Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Authored by: davew33 on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 05:30 PM EST
This just in: SCOX has sued Novell for slander...

http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/01/20/HNscosuesnovell_1.html

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SCO v. Novell - Slander of Title
Authored by: atul on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 05:37 PM EST
Like the IBM case, it's not directly a copyright case, it's over something
else called "Slander of Title".

Here's part of a post on the Yahoo SCOX board defining what this is. I get the
impression that it's normally applied to real estate, not copyrights, but doing
so isn't out of the question.

==============
Here's more on "Slander of Title":

Slander of Title
To recover in an action for slander of title, a party must allege and prove: (i)
the utterings and publishing of disparaging words; (ii) that they were false;
(iii) that they were malicious; (iv) that special damages were sustained
thereby; (v) that the plaintiff possessed an estate or interest in the property
disparaged; and (vi) the loss of a specific sale. Malice is a basis for recovery
of actual damages in a slander of title case means merely that the acts must
have been deliberate conduct without reasonable cause. A patent may well be the
subject of a slander of title action as Prosser and Keeton state that intangible
interest such as "trademarks, copyrights [and] patents" may be the
subject of the tort.

As compared to other "injurious falsehood" causes of action, slander
of title or property differs in that there is no presumption of damages. The
plaintiff must show that he or she sustains special damage proximately,
naturally and reasonably resulting from the alleged slander. Attorneys' fees
are not recoverable in slander of title actions, and neither damages to
reputation nor consequential mental damages are recoverable in action for
slander of title. The plaintiff must prove the loss of a specific sale, i.e.,
that a pending sale was defeated by the slander. However, the reasonable expense
of litigation necessary to remove the doubt, or cloud, from the property or
title thereto has been held to be recoverable. Additionally, punitive damages
are also recoverable in an action for slander of title. Thus, as was the case
with a defamation cause of action, a plaintiff should allege that defendant's
actions were both intentional and with malice.
"Emerging State Law Claims Prompted by Patent Enforcement"
By Paul C. Van Slyke
h++p://articles.corporate.findlaw.com/articles/file/00644/008654
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complaint sco vs. novell
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 05:37 PM EST
complaint is up at http://www.sco.com/novell/
complaint_filing_jan_20_2004.pdf

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IBM case to be iced?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 05:41 PM EST
If Novell and SCO lock into a court dispute on the Unix copyprights, wouldn't
it be reasonable to suspend the IBM trial until the issue is resolved?

Or will only the copyright infringment parts be iced? Any guesses?

(Or even better, knowledgable answers?)

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SCO files Novell lawsuit
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 05:41 PM EST
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/01/20/210253.shtml?tid=106&tid=123&tid=18
5&tid=187&tid=88&tid=99

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040120/latu099_1.html

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SCO expects no response from Novell!
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 06:10 PM EST
SCO EXPECTS NO RESPONSE FROM NOVELL

http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3301341

"The timing is unrelated to the [LinuxWorld] show," SCO spokesman
Marc Modersitzki told Internetnews.com.

Modersitzki said the suit was filed this morning, and Novell has not yet
responded. "We don't expect any response," Modersitzki added.
"Some of the responses Novell has offered prior to today have confused
customers as to the ownership of Unix. We want to clarify that."


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Kevin McBride.
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 06:11 PM EST
According to:

http://www.sco.com/novell/complaint_filing_jan_20_2004.pdf

SCO is being represented by Kevin McBride!

Steve

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Great Article from the Register
Authored by: BigTex on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 06:31 PM EST
SCO sues Novell - retaliation expected
By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Posted: 20/01/2004 at 21:15 GMT
Get The Reg wherever you are, with The Mobile Register

The SCO Group has sued Novell, claiming the born-again Linux company is
interfering with SCO's right to collect money from Linux users.

The 'Slander of Title' suit - which is invoked when ownership of a contested
property has not yet been established by the courts - seeks to block Novell from
filing further UNIX™ copyrights that SCO claims are rightfully its own.

At issue is the 1995 agreement which Novell says transferred some rights to the
SCO Group - but not the rights that SCO says it has, and that it needs to pursue
its IP claims against IBM and Linux users. SCO's move isn't unexpected , and
many anticipate that Novell will file a suit declaring that SCO has broken the
1995 agreement. Novell has been auditing SCO for compliance in recent weeks, and
without the agreement SCO would have little basis on which to pursue its wide
ranging IP licensing strategy.

"We encourage the public and commercial Linux users to read the Asset
Purchase Agreement from 1995 (including Attachment E found at
www.sco.com/novell) and Amendment 2 so they can see for themselves that SCO owns
the copyrights to UNIX and UnixWare," said Mark Heise of law firm Boies,
Schiller Flexner in a canned statement.

SCO is also asking for punitive damages from Novell. ®

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SCO Licensing Scheme in Tatters?
Authored by: PM on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 06:32 PM EST
This lawsuit against Novell must surely leave SCO's licencing scheme in
tatters. That is unless SCO can win some immediate injunctions against Novell
which won't happen.

The lawsuit can only be one big PR stunt to keep that stock price high. It
probably came as no surprise to Novell, as its actions have been pretty
provocative recently (with good cause).

Novell, wisely, will want to keep its mouth shut. However it should take the
opportunity of using its defence filing as a PR release. Hopefully the info
will get through to the brainless one eyed twits in the financial media.

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SCO complaint -- and Attachment E (key document)
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 06:36 PM EST
IANAL, IMHO:

1. I've read the SCO complaint

It seems to suffer from the usual confusion between Old-SCO (Tarantella) and
SCO/Caldera

There seems to be some interesting quoting style. For example, the quote of
Novell's CEO containing "absurd", in SCO's complaint is linked to
the copyright registrations - but in the text of the letter as published by
Novell, seems to be linked to Darl McBride's allegations of a conspiracy
against SCO by Novell + IBM


2. Attachment E

http://www.sco.com/novell/attachmente.pdf

I only scanned this -- is there anything in there which is not a manual or
specification (i.e. a document as opposed to actual source code).

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ATTN: SCO complaint as text
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 06:52 PM EST
Sorry my formatting is broken.. I've attempted to follow the original document line breaks (with the exception of the adresses in the beginning)

Please note any typos in this thread.

[Stamp: FILED 04 JAN 20]


Brent O. Hatch (5715)

Mark R. Clements (7172)

HATCH JAMES & DODGE, P.C.

10 West Brodway, Suite 400

Salt Lake City, Utah 84101

Telephone: (801) 363-6363

Facsimile: (801) 363-6666


Kevin P. McBride (4494)

1299 Ocean Avenue, Suite 900

Santa Monica, California 90401

Telephone: (310) 393-1080

Facsimile: (310) 393-1214


Stephen N. Zack (pro hac vice pending)

Mark J. Heise (pro hac vice pending)

BOISE, SCHILLER & FLEXNER LLP

100 Southeast Second Street, Suite 2800

Miami, Florida 33131

Telephone: (305) 539-8400

Facsimile: (305) 539-1307


Attorneys for Plaintiff The SCO Group, Inc.


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********************

IN THE THIRD JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT

OF SALT LAKE COUNTY, STATE OF UTAH

********************

THE SCO GROUP, INC.,

a Delaware corporation,


Plaintiff,


vs.


NOVELL, INC.

a Delaware corporation,


Defendant.


COMPLAINT

(Jury Trial Demanded)


Civil No. 040900936


Judge: Anthony B. Quinn



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Plaintiff, The SCO Group, Inc. ("SCO") sues Defendant Novell, Inc. ("Novell") and alleges as follows:


1. NATURE OF THIS ACTION

1. Through an Asset Purchase Agreement dated September 19, 1995, as amended ("Asset

Purchase Agreement," attached hereto with amendments as Exhibit "A") wherein Novell

received 6.1 million shares of SCO common stock, valued at the time at over $100 million

in consideration, SCO, through its predecessor in interest, acquired from Novell all right,

ttile, and interest in and to the UNIX and UnixWare business, operating system, source

code, and all copyrights related thereto, as well as all claims arising after the closing date

against any parties relating to any rihgt, property, or asset included in the business.


2. In attachment E of Novell's Disclosure Schedule to the Asset Purchase Agreement (Exh.

A at Attachment E), Novell provided a list of approximately 106 copyright registrations

(encompassing 8 pages) covering products relating to the business transferred to SCO.


3. In the course of exercising its rights with respect to UNIX and UnixWare, SCO has filed

for copyright protection with the United States Copyright Office.


4. In a bad faith effort to interfere with SCO's exercise of its rights with respect to UNIX and

UnixWare technologies, Novell has, in disregard of its obligations under the Asset

Purchase Agreement, and subsequent to the Asset Purchase Agreement, filed for copyright

protection in the same UNIX technology covered by SCO's copyrights.


5. Recently, Novell repeatedly claimed publicly in press releases and otherwise that it, and

not SCO, owns the UNIX and UnixWare copyrights.


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6. Novell has made such statements with the intent to cause customers and potential

customers of SCO to not do business with SCO and to slander and impugn the ownership

rights of SCO in UNIX and UnixWare, and to attempt, in bad faith, to block SCO's ability

to enforce its copyrights therein.


7. Novell's false and misleading representations that it owns the UNIX and UnixWare

copyrights has caused and is continuing to cause SCO to incur significant irreparable harm

to its valuable UNIX and UnixWare copyrights, to its business, and its reputation.


8. Through this action for slander of title against Defendant Novell, SCO seeks the following:

a) a preliminary and permanent injunction: (i) requiring Novell to assign to SCO all

subsequently registered copyrights Novell has registered in UNIX and UnixWare;

(ii) preventing Novell from representing in any forum that it has any ownership

interest whatsoever in the Unix and UnixWare copyrights; and (iii) requiring

Novell to retract or withrdraw all representations it has made regarding its purported

ownership of the UNIX and UnixWare copyrights; and

b) actual, special, and punitive damages in an amount to be proven at trial based on

Novell's slander of SCO's title and interest in the Unix and UnixWare copyrights.


II. PARTIES JURISDICTION AND VENUE


9. Plaintiff SCO is a Delaware corporation with its principal place of business in Utah

County, State of Utah.


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10. Defendant Novell is a Delaware corporation wiht its executive offices and headquarters in

Waltham, Massachusetts that it does business in the State of Utah, has a registered agent in

Salt Lake County, Utah, and lists a sales office located at 15 West South Temple, Suite

500, Salt Lake City, Utah.


11. This Court has subject matter jurisdiction over this matter persuant to section 78-3-4 of the

Utah Code.


12. This Court has personal jurisdiction over Novell because Novell transacts substantial

business in the State of Utah.


13. Venue is proper in this Court persuant to section 78-13-7 of the Utah Code.


III. FACTUAL BACKGROUND


14. Schedule 1.1(a) to the Asset Purchase Agreement provides that SCO, through its

predecessor in interest, acquired from Novell:

I. All rights and ownersihp of UNIX and UnixWare, including but not

limited to all versions of UNIX and UnixWare and copies of UNIX

and UnixWare (including revisions and updates in process), and all

technical, design, development, installation, operation and

maintenance information concerning UNIX and UnixWare, including

source code, source documentation, source listings and annotations,

appropriate engineering notebooks, test data and test results, as well as

all reference materials and support materials normally distributed by

[Novell] to end-users and potential end-users in connection with the

distribution of UNIX and UnixWare...


II. All of [Novell's] claims arising after the Closing Date against any

parties relating to any right, property or asset included in the Business.


(Exh. A, at Schedule 1.1(a) I and II)


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15. In Amendment No. 2 to the Asset Purchase Agreement, Novell and SCO made clear that

SCO owned all "copyrights and trademarks owned by novell as of the date of the [Asset

Purchase Agreement] required for SCO to exercise its rights with respect to the acquisition

of UNIX and UnixWare technologies," and that Novell would no longer be liable should

any third party bring a claim against SCO "pertaining to said copyrights and trademarks"

(Exh. A, Amendment No. 2 to the Asset Purchase Agreement dated October 16, 1996 at 1)


16. Software technology is valuable only insofar as the intellectual property contained therein

is protected from unlawful misappropriation. Copyrights provide critical protection

against misappropriation established by the United States Congress under the Copyright

Act. SCO required the full copyright protection it purchased from Novell to enforce its

rights in UNIX and UnixWare technology, including proprietary source code, against

infringing parties.


17. Based on the clear and unambiguous terms of the Asset Purchase Agreement and

Amendment No. 2 thereto, SCO is the sole and exclusive owner of all copyrights related to

UNIX and UnixWare source code and all documentation and peripheral code and systems related thereto.


18. Novell, with full knowledge of SCO's exclusive ownership of the copyrights related to

UNIX and UnixWare, has embarked on a malicious campaign to damage SCO's ability to

protect its valuable copyrights in UNIX and UnixWare. In particular, Novell has

wrongfully asserted ownership over UNIX and UnixWare technologies by filing for

copyright protection in its own name, and has made numerous false and misleading public


*-*-*-


representations disparaging SCO's ownership of the UNIX and UnixWare copyrights and

claiming that it, and not SCO, owns the UNIX and UnixWare copyrights.


19. Novell's false oaths and misleading public representations and wrongful assertion of

ownership rights in UNIX and/or UnixWare include, but are not limited to, the following:

a) Despite the clear language of the Asset Purchase Agreement and Amendment No. 2

thereto, on May 28, 2003, Novell's Chairman, President, and SCO Jack Messman

("Messman") based at Novell's headquarters in Waltham, Massachusetts, publicly

claimed that Novell did not transfer the UNIX and UnixWare copyrights to SCO

and that "SCO is not the owner of the UNIX copyrights." Messman's statement

was published in several newspapers, including the Salt Lake Tribune and Deseret

News, and was timed by Messman to be released on the eve of the release of SCO's

quarterly statements.


b) In a letter dated June 6, 2003, directed from SCO to Novell, SCO brought to

Novell's attention Amendment to to the Asset Purchase Agreement that clearly

evidences that the UNIX copyrights were in fact transferred from Novell to SCO.


c) Following Novell's receipt of SCO's June 6, 2003, letter, Novell issued a press

release dated that same date which recanted Messman's prior statement claiming

Novell owned UNIX copyrights stating "[t]he amendment [to the Asset Purchase

Agreement] appears to support SCO's claim that ownership of certain copyrights

for UNIX did transfer to SCO in 1996."


d) In a letter of the same day, June 6, 2003, directed to SCO, Joseph Lasala, Novell's

General Counsel based at Novell's headquarters in Waltham, Massachusetts,

continued to call SCO's claims "absurd" and "unsubstantiated."


e) In a letter to SCO on June 26, 2003, from Joseph Lasala, Novell's General Counsel

based at Novell's headquarters in Waltham, Massachusetts, Novell acknowledged

that Amendment No. 2 "appears to support a claim" by SCO to "some copyrights",

but at the same time, Novell called SCO's claims of ownership of UNIX and

UnixWare "simply wrong" and declared "that we do not agree with SCO's public

statements in this matter."


f) In a letter from Joseph Lasala, Novell's General Counsel based at Novell's

headquarters in Waltham, Massachusetts, dated August 4, 2003, Novell responded

to SCO's registration of UNIX System V copyrights with the United States

Copyright Office, and explicitly "dispute[d] SCO's claim to ownership of the

copyrights-"


g) Despite Amendment 2 of the Asset Purchase Agreement that clearly established

SCO's ownership of the copyrights, Novell continued with its unfounded and

malicious campaign to slander SCO's ownership of the copyrights. In fact, Novell,

again falsely asserted ownership of UNIX copyrights by submitting twelve

certifications beginning on September 22, 2003 through October 14, 2003, to the

United States Copyright Office. In these certifications, Novell publicly claimed to

be the copyright owner of several versions of UNIX, including the following: (1)


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UNIX System V/386 Release 4 Version 3; (2) UNIX System V/386 Release 4 2;

(3) UNIX System V/386 Release 4 Version 4; (4) UNIX System V/386 Release 3

2; (5) UNIX System V/386 Release 3 0; (6) UNIX System V/386 Release 4 0; (7)

UNIX System V/386 Release 4 1ES; (8) UNIX System V Release 3 2/386; (9)

UNIX System V Release 3/386; (10) UNIX System V Release 4 2MP; (11) UNIX

System V Release 2; and (12) UNIX System V Release 4 1ES/386. Novell

published its false certifications to the world by placing them online at its website.


h) Also on October 10, 2003, Novell publicly filed under oath with the United States

Copyright Office four different iterations of a "Declaration Regarding Ownership"

of UNIX copyrights TXU-510-028, TXU-511-236, TXU-516-704, TXU-516-

705. In each of these sworn documents, Novell declared "that it retains all or

substantiall all of the ownership of the copyrights in UNIX, including the U.S.

Copyright Registration referenced above."


i) In a press release dated December 22, 2003, Novell, despite its June 2003 statement

that SCO owns the copyrights, Novell stated that "it owns the copyrights in UNIX,

and has applied for and recived copyright registrations pertaining to UNIX

consistent with that position."


j) In a press release dated January 13, 2004, Novell again knowingly and wrongfully

made the false claim that "it retained ownership of [UNIX] copyrights."


20. Novell's false oaths and wrongful claims of copyrights and ownership of UNIX nad

UnixWare are in bad faith and consitute a knowing and intentional disregard for the truth.


*-*-*-


21. Novell's wrongful claims of copyrights and ownership in UNIX and UnixWare have

caused, and continue to cause, irreparable harm to SCO, in the following particulars:

a) Customers and potential customers of SCO are unable to ascertain the truth of

ownership in UNIX and UnixWare, and make decisions based thereon; and

b) SCO's efforts to protect its ownership of UNIX and UnixWare, and copyrights

therein, are subject to a false cloud of ownership created by Novell.



IV. CLAIM FOR RELIEF

(Slander of Title)


22. SCO realleges and incorporates all prior paragraphs by this reference as if fully set forth

herein.


23. SCO is the sole and exclusive owner of all copyrights related to UNIX and UnixWare

source code and all documentation and peripheral code and systems related thereto.


24. Novell has slandered SCO's title and rights to its UNIX and UnixWare copyrights and

damaged SCO's business reputation and relationships with potential customers by making

false oaths of cownership to public officials, and by repeatedly representing both to the

public in general and directly to several of SCO's customers and potential customers that

Novell, and not SCO, owns the UNIX and UnixWare copyrights.


25. Novell's representations regarding its purported ownership of UNIX and UnixWare are

patently false, and Novell made such representations intentionally, maliciously, and with

the utter disregard for the truthfulness thereof.


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26. As a consequence of Novell's conduct as alledged herein, SCO has incurred actual and

special damages in an amount to be proven with at trial.


27. Novell's conduct as alledged herein was intentionally and maliciously designed to destroy

SCO's valuable rights to the UNIX and UnixWare copyrights and further destroy SCO's

business livelihood. As such, this Court should impose an award of punitive damages

against Novell in an amount to be proven at trial.



V. PRAYER FOR RELIEF


WHEREFORE, Plaintiff SCO prays this Court grant relief against Defendant Novell in

favor of SCO as follows:


1. For actual and special damages in an amount to be proven at trial for Novell's slander of

SCO's title to the UNIX and UnixWare copyrights;


2. For punitive damages in an amount to be proven at trial for Novell's malicious and willful

conduct as alleged herein.


3. For a preliminary and permanent injunction (a) requiring Novell to assign to SCO any and

all copyrights Novell has registered in UNIX and UnixWare; (b) preventing Novell from

representing in any forum that it has any ownership interest whatsoever in the UNIX and

UnixWare copyrights; and (c) requiring Novell to retract or withdraw all representations it

has made regarding its purported ownership of the UNIX and UnixWare copyrights.


4. For attorneys' fees, costs, pre- and post-judgment interest, and all other legal and equitable

relief deemed just and proper by this Court.


*-*-*-


VI. JURY TRIAL DEMAND


SCO demands trial by jury on all issues so triable.


DATED this 20th day of January, 2004.


By: [Signature]

HATCH JAMES & DODGE

Brent O. Hatch

Mark R. Clements


BOIES, SCHILLER & FLEXNER LLP

Stephen N. Zack

Mark J. Heise


Keven P. McBride


Attorneys for plaintiff


Plaintiff's Adress

355 South 520 West

Lindon, UT 84042

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This is encouraging
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 07:15 PM EST
Has SCO shot itself in the other foot?

For the first time, SCO is admitting to the whole world that it does not have
clear title to the property they say they do, and that everyone else apparently
agrees. An excellent hook for SCO's would-be extortion victims not to cave in.
And an admission that press releases aren't going to cut it anymore.

Could a preliminary injunction cut both ways? Be nice to see the judge enjoin
both sides from making or enforcing claims about this property -- including
(hope against hope) a gag order?

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SCO sues Novell
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 07:34 PM EST
Hi all, (i know this doesn't fit into this thread)

i'm from germany and read the whole SCO-FUD the last few months. there are some
news now on the heise-newsticker saying that sco sues novell.

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-20.01.04-013/

Basically it says that novell left out one document when it lately claimed their
copyrights on unix.
this one should by the central document showing that novell doesn't have any
more rights on unix.

http://www.sco.com/novell/amend_apap2.pdf

i am no expert on justice, so plz someone comment this

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Paragraph 19(d) - Unbelievable
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 07:35 PM EST
1. From SCO complaint

19. Novell's false oaths and misleading public representations and wrongful assertion of ownership rights in UNIX and/or UnixWare include, but are not limited to, the following:

d) In a letter of the same day, June 6, 2003, directed to SCO, Joseph Lasala, Novell's General Counsel based at Novell's headquarters in Waltham, Massachusetts, continued to call SCO's claims "absurd" and "unsubstantiated."

2. Where the quote comes from:

I have received your letter to Jack L. Messman with respect to "Novell's May 28, 2003 Press Release."

For your information, Novell has today issued a press release with respect to Amendment No. 2. A copy is attached for your ease of reference.

Your letter contains absurd and unfounded accusations against Novell and others, coupled with a veiled threat to publicly state those allegations in a SCO press call to be held today at 11:00 am EST. Novell continues to demand that SCO cease and desist its practice of making unsubstantiated allegations, including the allegations contained in your letter of June 6, 2003.

3. On the face of it, it seems that Novell alleges that SCO sent a letter that contains "absurd", "unsubstantiated", "unfounded" allegations against Novell... rather than Novell making claims about SCO's copyrights in this letter.

So the question is what letter is Joseph A. LaSala, Jr. in item 2 (above)?

Well it thanks to GROKLAW it only takes a moment to look up, and I've highlighted the allegations, that Novell is presumably referring to.

In a well-orchestrated press release on May 28, 2003 entitled "Novell Challenges SCO Position, Reiterates Support for Linux," you stated:

"Importantly, and contrary to SCO's assertions, SCO Is not the owner of the UNIX copyright."

As you know, your accusation that SCO does not own the UNIX copyrights was false and was without a good faith basis for belief. The documents clarifying this issue have been In your possession for nearly seven years. Any question of whether the UNIX copyrights transferred to SCO under the Sept. 19, 1995 Asset Purchase Agreement was clarified in Amendment No. 2 to the Asset Purchase Agreement dated October 16, 1996. You either knew or should have known of Amendment No. 2 prior to issuing your press release attack against SCO's ownership rights of the UNIX copyrights on May 28, 2003. Therefore your conduct in this matter was either maliciously or recklessly intended to harm SCO's share value and customer relations.

As to the question of whether your conduct was malicious or reckless, we have a direct statement that Chris Stone, an executive employee working closely with you on this matter, stated that the timing of your May 28, 2003 press release was intended to coincide with our earnings announcement that occurred later that day, I am also concerned that IBM may have possibly been involved in your decision to issue this groundless press release based upon statements you made in our telephone conversation on June 5th.

You should know that your actions may have been serious violations of the United States securities laws. Your press release, coupled with its intended timing to coincide with our May 28 earnings announcement appears to have been deceptive and manipulative conduct intended by you to artificially depress SCO's stock price in violation of the Federal securities laws, including but not limited to SEC Rule 10b-5.

SCO will hold a press call today at 11:00 am EST to clear up this matter so that our shareholders and customers are fully aware of SCO's rights with respect to the UNIX copyrights, You have time before that call to take the following corrective action in order to possibly mitigate any liability on the part of you, Jack Messman, and Novell, to SCO and to your own shareholders for your false and groundless accusations:

1. Affirm publicly that Novell has not retained any rights in and to the UNIX copyrights.

2. Affirm publicly that all UNIX copyrights transferred to SCO pursuant to Amendment No. 2 to the Asset Purchase Agreement.

3. Voluntarily disclose to us in a clear and forthright manner the date and substance of all conversations between Novell, its management and/or counsel, and IBM, its management and/or counsel with respect to the question of SCO's copyright claims to UNIX.

4. Voluntarily disclose to us in a clear and forthright manner the date and substance of all conversations between Novell, its management and/or counsel, and IBM, its management and/or counsel with respect to Novell's decision to issue the May 28, 2003 press release and the timing thereof.

These public statements and information about your communications with IBM regarding the topics identified above need to be presented to our satisfaction today before 10:30 EST.

You are further instructed to retain for future discovery all notes, phone records, emails and other communication by and among Novell management and/or counsel and IBM management and/or counsel since and after March 6, 2003.

Thank you for your immediate attention to these important matters.

Yours truly,

Darl McBride
President and CEO
The SCO Group, Inc.

4. So, in short:

(i) Darl writes a letter containing a bunch of allegations about Novell (quoted as item 3)

(ii) Novell replies that SCO's allegations are "absurd" "unfounded", "unsubstantiated" (item 2)

(iii) SCO claims that Novell's response to SCO's allegations, was a statement about SCO's copyrights!

IANAL, IMHO.

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Coming Soon: Pamela and the Grok-tones
Authored by: snorpus on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 07:36 PM EST
Just Learn How To Code, Toad.

Show 'Em Your Perl, Girl.

Go Back to the Roots, Toots.

Windows is Silly, Millie.

Linux is cool, Jewel.

Stallman Is Tall, Man.

Linus won't snarl, Darl.

Console is easy, Louisee.

(Bonus points if you recognize the TV show that comes from!)

Icons suck, Chuck.

Forget the Mouse, Spouse.

Tap your finger, Ginger.

---
73/88 de KQ3T

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Definition of "Slander Of Title" --- and relief?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 08:01 PM EST
SLANDER OF TITLE - Common law tort impugning ownership of land. Now extended to
personalty. Interferes with P's ability to alienate land, with resultant
economic harm.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/s051.htm

I have not (yet) been able to find any situation where it applies to anything
other than land or personality.

Can it apply to copyrights?

I can see damages, if the case is proven, being a possible form of relief.

I can see injunctive relief, if the case is prove, being a possible form of
relief.

But is "transfer these copyright registrations" an applicable form
of relief under this tort, even if proven?


IANAL

But I am confused

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SCO's lawsuit vs. Novell
Authored by: jbeadle on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 08:25 PM EST
Hmmm. On the eve of LinuxWorld. Hmmm. Just a few
days before the next regularly-scheduled court
appearance with IBM.

Coincidence???

(Think I'll go watch the State of The Union speech...)

John

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OT YET ANOTHER lawsuit (from Audtralia this time)
Authored by: eamacnaghten on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 08:33 PM EST
Well - a threat of one at least...

http://www.s mh.com.au/articles/2004/01/21/1074360802009.html

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How does this affect the Novell issues?
Authored by: kbwojo on Tuesday, January 20 2004 @ 09:43 PM EST
This is part of the original APA. Could this have a major effect on the case? 9.8 Governing Law. This Agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordances with the laws of the State of California regardless of the laws that might otherwise govern under applicable principles of conflicts of laws thereof.

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Burn a Linux Distro
Authored by: Rodrin on Wednesday, January 21 2004 @ 11:22 AM EST
Burn a Linux Distro
(with apologies to Tony Orlando and Dawn)

I've lived with Bill; I've done my time;
Now I've got to know what is and isn't mine;
I've put up with Windows long enough; I'll soon be Free;
If you'll show me what to do with this blank CD;
Burn an image, please.

CHORUS:
Burn a Linux distro on this blank CD;
I've tried three point one right up through XP;
If I can't get a distro on this blank CD,
It's the next virus, and spyware for us,
On our Windows XP;
If you won't burn a Linux distro on this blank CD.

Conversion please work for me;
'Cause all my data's in Office XP;
I'm still locked in Windows; OpenOffice holds the key;
An open data format's all I need to set me free;
Burn an image please.

CHORUS:
Burn a Linux distro on this blank CD;
I've tried three point one right up through XP;
If I can't get a distro on this blank CD,
It's the next virus, and spyware for us,
On our Windows XP;
If you won't burn a Linux distro on this blank CD.

Now the whole darn LUG is cheering as they hold out to me
A brand new Linux distro on this burned, my burned CD.


OK, you can stop groaning, now. The pain will subside eventually. :-)

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D'oh!
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 21 2004 @ 11:23 AM EST
If you aren't going to put out a recording, you ought to make it legally
possible for someone else to. All in the spirit of the thing, y'know.

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DiDio shows total ignorance!
Authored by: whoever57 on Wednesday, January 21 2004 @ 12:53 PM EST
From Ecommerce news :
"My opinion is that, on the surface, the executives at Caldera (which originally bought the Unix System V copyrights in 1995 from Novell and were all ex-Novell executives) would have had to have been extremely stupid or crazy to pay in excess of $100 million and not get the copyrights," DiDio said.

"executives at Caldera": What an idiot!

But what a stupid argument: they paid a lot of money so they must have bought the worldcopyrights.

Perhaps these famed executives (at SCO) were stupid or crazy?

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There Must Be Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 21 2004 @ 03:28 PM EST
Man, I found this "poem" rather dull and lacking, sorely, in
cretivity. And, the laugher is...the author actually copyrighted this? The
irony is...that's the only thing funny about the "poem".

copyright 2004, Anonymous User

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Support for digital devices, Photoshop
Authored by: nextstep on Wednesday, January 21 2004 @ 11:30 PM EST
Ok, the following prevents me from trashing Win Xp altogether (I have a Win XP
PC, and a dual boot Dell notebook, running XP and Redhat 9 with KDE):

[1] A good Linux based accounting system that integrates with Mozilla
Thunderbird. My current accounting package (Pastel V6) only integrates with
Outlook, and it has the ability to set up recurring invoices.

[2] Support on Linux for my Sony Ericsson P800 smartphone.

[3] A fast and convenient way to run Photoshop and Flash MX on Linux. Yes, I
know about Wine, etc, but not all the Photoshop features are supported, and to
the best of my knowledge Flash MX cannot even run using Wine.

[4] Better game support (it would be great if I can play Flight Simulator and
Star Craft on Linux).

The rest is pretty much covered ...

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There Must Be Fifty Ways to Leave Your Windows, by Scott Lazar
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 22 2004 @ 03:22 AM EST
PJ, stick to SCO stuff. Microsoft bashing doesn't suit you.

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