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Rupert Goodwins has written about Groklaw in an article, "How to Score SCO's Legal Games" on ZDNet UK. It's actually on page two but it's well worth reading the whole article to capture the flavor and style. This is the one I will frame and show to my dear older relatives, who dutifully read Groklaw now and again, but haven't a clue what the geek in the family is up to or what it's all about -- my mom, my favorite uncle, semi-retired now and living in Florida. I treasure this article, first, because it's from a writer whose skill and talent I genuinely admire. It's charmingly written, with wit and style. And, second, he includes a reference to the blues. It just happens the blues is one of my favorite kinds of music, although I'm more a fan of Bobby "Blue" Bland, Howlin' Wolf, and Muddy Waters than B.B. King. But B.B. King will do. Here is the snip from the article, the part that's about Groklaw. I don't think anyone will ever top this. Of course, you are all welcome to try.
"One may be expert in the details of Linux and Unix, and perhaps understand half what's going on: one may be a commercial lawyer and be comfortable with the other half. Trying to untangle the chimera at the interface of technology and law is enough to send anyone off to take up a simpler job, like quantum chromodynamics.
"But hold on before you brush up your Feynman: there is one good thing that's come out of all this. The unofficial nexus of the SCO affair is Groklaw , a bulletin board turned into a Web site. Here, you can find lawyers and code hackers busily engaged in pulling the bones out of every pronouncement that falls from the mouth of Darl McBride, CEO of SCO, and his merry men. SCO says it's sent IBM all the examples of the code it claims IBM infringes in Linux? Well, here's a Unix guy who's shown the 'infringing code' so produced was produced by a simple text search for certain words in the Linux source -- and proof of nothing at all.
"As for the 'non-competing' clause in the Novell-SCO agreement: you can argue about exactly what it protects, and whether Linux has anything to do with it. People on Groklaw are doing just that, and it looks no more substantial than anything else SCO has said. But you can't argue with the fact that the same clause says that it will terminate if there's a change of control of SCO -- and in 2000, SCO was bought by Caldera. Steady your nerves, chaps.
"Groklaw is a sterling example of Internet interdisciplinary cooperation between experts and concerned parties. The discussions are impassioned but controlled, and documenting arguments is the order of the day. Heavily spiced with links and excerpts from many sources, the rule is -- if you don't understand, ask. If you know something of import, tell.
"When this whole sorry affair is over and BB King can get on with writing the Ballard Of Black Dog McBride, Groklaw will stand as a monument to how a community under threat can gather its resources and calmly set about restoring sanity in a hurricane of bluster. If anyone can find a way to bottle this, it may even all have been worth it." My uncle will understand now what Groklaw is, and he'll be proud of me. (Of course, he thinks I'm wonderful anyway.) Thank you, Rupert. When there's nothing left of SCO but an old blues song, I will still remember how it felt when I first read about the Ballad of Black Dog McBride.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 21 2003 @ 11:44 PM EST |
poetic advocacy
i've noticed this more than once here and in other forums.
it's good here :)
thanks,
willy
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 12:05 AM EST |
PJ,
Your work is wonderful and greatly admired by many.
Thank you!
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| Authored by: Doug Glenn on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 12:09 AM EST |
Keep up the great work PJ!
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 12:17 AM EST |
"...stand as a monument to how a community under threat can gather its
resources and calmly set about restoring sanity in a hurricane of bluster. If
anyone can find a way to bottle this, it may even all have been worth it."
I do believe that a fellow named Linus has found a way to bottle just this
sort of community effort. How the suits must stand in awe that people of their
own free will and choosing would put such an effort into undertakings with no
more reward than the satisfaction of a job well done. Hats off to everyone
involved in groklaw, linux, and all other selfless pursuits...[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: dburns on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 12:23 AM EST |
PJ,
You have poured yourself into Groklaw and it shines.
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| Authored by: Ed Freesmeyer on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 12:25 AM EST |
I can't read three IT articles nowadays without seeing a reference to SCO's
scams in some third-party analysis and the corresponding credits to Groklaw for
the illumination and analysis of those scams. Are you sure you didn't put SCO
up to their shenanigans as an elaborate advertising hoax to get hits on Groklaw
?
I expect that you will now have to work REEEEEALLLL HARD to come up with a
sequal to this story once SCO goes off the international radar.
You're going to need a sequal. The Matrix had two. Star Wars had several (and
prequals). Lord of the Rings had two. You need at least one.
You're going to have do this in front of an international audience. That
audience will contain most of the technical analysts in the IT field
(world-wide). That audience will contain most of the big-name lawyers on the
planet. That audience will contain techies from ALL the fortune 2000 companies
that will be watching you to insure that your technical analysis remains correct
in whatever story you bring up next. That audience will contain many or most of
the IT analysts in the world. What Groklaw says is what they will print.
You're going to have to do all this without tarnishing the reputation you've
built for yourself from this current fiaSCO.
No pressure, PJ. No pressure. Just take a nap once in a while (Every night
would be best, but I notice that you frequently refuse to sleep resulting in a
need for your loyal Groklaw 'parents' to send you to bed for a nap once a week
or so.)
Just trying to give you fair warning - No pressure.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 12:42 AM EST |
We hate the SCO Group for the example of unrestrained corporate greed and utter
lack of integrity that it sets. Nevertheless, by sticking to the facts, the law
and the facts that are relevant to the law, we are fair to everyone including
our enemy the SCO Group. Considering how effectively this knowledgeable fairness
is interfering with the SCO Group's goals, I'd say that the SCO Group views it
with fear and loathing as it should just as our corporate allies are heartened
by the fact that they are not alone in this - as they should. Mark my words: we
did not start this fight, but we will finish it. The SCO Group deliberately
started a fight to the death, and the fight that it started will not end until
we will have killed the SCO Group. It is not a threat, it is not just a pledge,
it is a prophecy of that which will come to pass. It is not hatred, it is cold,
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| Authored by: Scriptwriter on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 12:47 AM EST |
When the story of this whole long sorry mess is told many years from now,
Groklaw won't just have its own chapter, mentions of it will be peppered all
the way through.
Like I said in the earlier thread from today, there are some things you just
can't buy with money, and recognition like this is one of them. I don't know
if SCO vs. IBM will be the first case where the merits and strategies of the
case are discussed so extensively in an open forum, but I think it will be the
first one to have a big impact on the case.
PJ, you've started Something. Good for you.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 12:53 AM EST |
...No just kidding. More important is to keep tabs on M$ as the article today
did. But SCO is far from
over.
Contratulations to PJ and the many Groklaw participants. If you don't follow
Groklaw, you don't know what
is going on. That includes the Judges, I'll bet.
Groklaw has thousands of brains with nearly perfect memory and unsurpassed
expertise. Where PJ leads, many
will follow.
Few if any SCO-philes participate here. They can't argue with anything until
they show the code.
We need a Groklaw-Lite that doesn't take up so much time and ....
All hail to PJ she may have turned the tide.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 12:55 AM EST |
As evidence of SCO's transition to their new business plan of "stock pumping and
dumping", I would like to refer you to their job openings.
They have a
single developer position open, but three open positions that deal with stock
price manipulation - er, I mean analysis. Two of them - "Director, Investor
Relations" and "Internal Audit" appear to deal directly with suckers/investors,
while the third, "Executive Assistant", is support staff for the pumping
department.
My question now is whether this is actually an expansion of
their stock manipulation business, or if previous employees who held these
positions left in disgust. It seems like a fairly large number of people to be
hired for the investor relations department of a company their size, so I figure
this must be a signal of their new chosen corporate direction.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 01:10 AM EST |
Soon the whole world will know of our beacon of truth and reason.
GO PJ!!!!!!!
When can we pre-order the book on Amazon?
SCO delenda est!
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- The Book - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 11:42 AM EST
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| Authored by: Dick Gingras on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 02:01 AM EST |
And hopefully, when the SCO saga is over, there'll be several members of SCOG
who'll be singing "The bad food, bad clothes, no conjugal visits, can't
get out of this cell" blues, courtesy of a certain government agency on
whose territory they "widdled".
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SCO Caro Mortuum Erit![ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 02:05 AM EST |
Woo! Go Florida!
(I'm a Florida native)[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: w_ready99 on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 02:31 AM EST |
Now I realize this is somewhat of a stereotype (and I apologize if I am
offending anyone) but I have only met one other Rupert in person and he
definitely had a way with words as well. Anyone who I have talked to who has
know a Rupert (only around 3 or 4 but still) have always commented they were
very effective speakers. I think I just might name my son Rupert ;)
Will
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Does the dog have buddha-nature? This is the most essential question of all.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 02:50 AM EST |
Given the quality of the contributions from this site, its publicity and
popularity, and the stewardship of Cap'n PJ, I can't help but think the
lawyers at IBM and perhaps Red Hat or Novell must be giving it a daily perusal.
Even the crack lawyers at IBM may gain some benefit from insights, comments,
theories, etc. drawn from groklaw.net. Well, drawn from posters other than
myself, anyway...
I've certainly been entertained keeping up on happenings on this site. It's
like an epic soap opera; I just hope the concluding episode isn't *too* far
off. Non-events like today's court hearing are let-downs. :)
PJ, great job on your extra credit assignment. I think your social studies
teacher, Mr. Simonet will be proud. But tell me, does that mean *all* the
readers of groklaw.net have to pay it forward now? ;)
...JKondis[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 03:15 AM EST |
PJ,
My first album I ever bought was the London Sessions. There was so much more to
choose from in those days that could have been more mainstream for a 1st album
purchase (I guess). But that cover, I was going to buy something else but I
just could not get past that cover. Then, as I listened to what was inside over
and over, I could not remove the grin from my face. From that experience I
learned that yes sometimes you can judge something by it's cover.
Today, the cover to the SCO song and dance... tells, the whole story. Thanks
to PJ (and all), every day that the SCO saga drags on, we are fed, via our
treasured Groklaw outlet, an understanding of the riffs that are playing behind
the score (and we all grin).
In reality, we know that there is no such thing as a real master. However, at
certain times, we are blessed by the periodic generosity of one that is inspired
to rise to a greatness that is real, with a certain touch, so she communicates
in ways that reach out to us all. Yes, there is indeed the sweet sound of pure
honesty there... and well, everyday it's just a special treat!
Thanks PJ.
PS - try out some Eva Cassidy sometime.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 04:15 AM EST |
Just noticed two other clients Boies is currently advising -
Andrew Fastow, the ex-CFO of Enron and more recently, Conrad Black, the recently
'resigned' CEO of Hollinger International, the newspaper giant, who is accused
of funnelling out millions of dollars out of the company.
A quote from an article in guadian newspaper -
"Mr Boies, who has represented US presidential candidate Al Gore in the
Florida election case and former Enron finance director Andrew Fastow, is
reported to have advised Lord Black to tone down his public comments. "
Rather amusing, that.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: geoff lane on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 04:24 AM EST |
When the judge stops laughing and the case is kicked out, IBM will no doubt take
measures to prevent it happening again.
When a small company loses a big, expensive legal case you would normally expect
the share value to hit the floor. The lawyers will want their money, banks and
other major investors will move to protect their position. The likely first
stage would be for SCO to move directly into Chapter 11 while they try to sort
out the cash flow problems.
But for SCO, there are other problems. Paying the lawyers with stock puts a
twist on the situation. Lawyers, being officers of the court are obliged to act
in the best interests of the client; but what if acting in their clients best
interest causes the share value to fall? Will ethics win?
Anyway, SCO says that Linux and GPL is destroying the value of UNIX, so when SCO
loses one might expect them to realise what value remains by selling UNIX source
for what they can get. But who to? Given Novells new found love for Linux and
the fact that they still own many rights to UNIX I would predict that (perhaps
with a little help from IBM) Novell will make an immediate and reasonable
offer.
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| Authored by: skidrash on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 05:51 AM EST |
You used the village metaphor again
I see you judiciously avoided the little "vader" psych kink.
If Rupert is not LH then this is a clear case of SCOpyright violation.
I mean how can that guy write enterprise class articles without it being a
derivative work?
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| Authored by: old joe on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 05:58 AM EST |
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Conga-rats pj
He's said what we all think but better than I could.
Google today has 58,800 mentions of Groklaw on 543 different sites - all
praising you.
e.g. at number 542 the Albanian Linux Users Group or
Grupi Shqipëtar i Shfrytëzuesve të Linux
joe
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 06:35 AM EST |
This one from Computerworld (2002) has a lot of juice... it's an interview to
Darl close to the date when he changed Caldera's name to SCO, after the
purchase of some of original SCO's assets.
http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/unix/story/0,10801,74968,00.html
"Q. So what is SCO now, a Unix company, a Linux company or a Unix and
Linux company combined?
Darl: I really think it's a matter of Unix and Linux moving forward together.
One of the reasons that Linux is so popular is that it's a clone of Unix. It's
not like these two products are that dissimilar. If they were in the zoo, they
wouldn't be at different ends of the zoo. These are similar animals and would
probably be in the same cage. SCO was always known as the king of Unix on Intel.
It's not a long putt to get from where we are to where the Linux game is being
played. We are in a position to ride either horse."[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: PJ on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 06:48 AM EST |
I really enjoyed reading everyone's comments so much. But the truth is, it was
a moment of R & R. Now it's back to work. The copyright threat is
worrisome, and it's time to start to focus on that. Think take-down
possibilities, just for starters. So let's read up on DMCA and copyright law,
US style, and get ready. That is what I'm doing, and I hope you do too. It's
easy to be awful with copyright law, and they appear poised to begin using it
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- Thanks everyone, but there is more work to do first... - Authored by: maxhrk on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 07:38 AM EST
- Possible typo??? - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 12:15 PM EST
- It's
easy to be awful with copyright law - Authored by: freeio on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 07:54 AM EST
- Absolutely - Authored by: overshoot on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 07:55 AM EST
- Absolutely - Authored by: PJ on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 11:23 AM EST
- DMCA - Authored by: brenda banks on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 08:24 AM EST
- DMCA: a 2-edged sword you should not pick up! - Authored by: Tsu Dho Nimh on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 08:48 AM EST
- I don't think SCO will file a copyright complaint - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 09:19 AM EST
- DMCA - Difficult for SCO to use against end users - Authored by: Grim Reaper on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 01:26 PM EST
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| Authored by: Clifton Hyatt on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 07:21 AM EST |
pj, paul's article was excellent, my deepest thanks to you both for it's
presentation. The compliments you and the GrokLaw site/community are receiving
are richly deserved.
On another note I think Sun, schizoprenic as they
are, may do more for Linux on the desktop in the comming year than anyone else,
and it pains me to say it. Thank the Lord that all Linux is good
Linux.
With their China deal and Telestra deal they may outpace IBM
& HP combined, there's some irony.
And they may put out a cooler
desktop than Windows Longhorn not due till 2006 or OSX Aqua,
impossible?
Everyone, CHECK THIS OUT!
It will nock
your socks off!!!
peace
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 07:44 AM EST |
On the yahoo SCOX board earlier there was some discussion about a suitable theme
song for SCOX.
I've had, for some strange reason, an old song buzzing in my head for some
days, not really blues, but perhaps close enough for Groklaw. The trouble is I
cannot remember its name or who the artist(s) were, but it includes the lyrics:
He ain't heavy,
He's my brother.
These words seem to epitomise the spirit of Groklaw, IMO.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Tsu Dho Nimh on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 07:48 AM EST |
"With SCO spraying out threats of legal action like a tomcat on diuretics,
this latest piece of territorial widdle"
.... ROFL
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 08:22 AM EST |
>Uncle Mort will understand now what
>Groklaw is, and he'll be proud of me.
>(Of course, he thinks I'm wonderful anyway.)
>Thank you, Rupert. When there's nothing left of
>SCO but an old blues song, I will still remember
>how it felt when I first read about the Ballad
>of Black Dog McBride.
PJ, your not such a bad writer yourself, and give the book idea some thought.
Hope I get mine signed so I can shake your hand...[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Glenn on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 08:30 AM EST |
The only thing I would change is the name "Blackdog" to
"Blackguard". I have a very nice black dog in my yard who does not
deserve to be compared to McBride.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 09:09 AM EST |
I don't think this has been discussed quite enough, at least from the right
angle.
If you look at SCO's motion to compel discovery, there seem to be like a few
big issues about IBM's attached lists of names (if you see more post them!)
which SCO has a bee in their bonnet about.
ATTACHMENTS / NAMES
1. SCO says you have given us thousands of names. Only some of the lists have
contact details. We need their contact details to "evaluate their
identities"
IBM's reply seems two fold:
(a) What is there to evaluate about their identities?
(b) It's a huge waste of everybody's, especially our, time to gather contact
details for thousands of people who are likely of no interest to you. Tell us
which ones you are interested in, and we'll get those people's contact
details
2. SCO says you have given us thousands of names. You have not told us precisely
what each person has ever done with AIX/Dynix/Linux/etc code.
IBM's reply seems essentially: It's a huge waste of everybody's, especially
our, time to gather this information about thousands of people who are likely of
no interest to you. Tell us which bits of code that you are interested in, and
we'll get those details.
3. SCO says you didn't include your Linux advocate on your list of people with
knowledge of this law suit. Who else are you missing?
IBM's reply: There might be lots of people who know there is a law suit or
general knowledge of IBM's business. The Linux advocate falls into this
category. How can those people be in any way relevant?
4. SCO complains you didn't include non-IBM people.
IBM says: We agreed with you, not to include non-IBM. Now you are complaining
about this?
TIE-IN BETWEEN ABOVE AND CODE
There is also a tie-in with the attachment issue and the code issue
5. SCO is complaining that IBM didn't include every minor iteration of
AIX/Dynix even if that iteration was never released to the public
And IBM's position: What purpose would it serve to us to spend huge resources
get them?
6. SCO is complaining that IBM didn't provide engineering notes type stuff for
AIX/Dynix
And IBM's position: You didn't ask for them, and now you're complaining that
we didn't provide them? Huh?
7. SCO is complaining that IBM didn't provide every Linux contribution you ever
made.
And IBM's position, seems to be (a little more complex than some people seem to
realize - many people conflate (ii) and (iii)). There are three types:
(i) Stuff we contributed that was accepted
(ii) Stuff we contributed that was rejected
(iii) Stuff we proposed contributing but never actually did
IBM says (i) and (ii) are public record. And (iii) is irrelevant to the case.
IBM does not have central records so the search for (i) and (ii) would be a huge
waste of time without specific guidance of what contributions to look for. i.e.
if SCO said what is relevant, IBM or SCO can generate the list of relevant items
- but if SCO doesn't, IBM would have to generate huge amounts of data, most of
which can not be relevant.
MY OPINION
IANAL, but it seems to me SCO's complaints basically fall into 3 main
categories:
(i) IBM didn't provide information that we never asked for, or agreed we
didn't want (non-IBM employees, engineering notes for AIX/Dynix)
(ii) IBM didn't provide huge mounds of data, most of the data being stuff that
we are never likely to use (contacts for thousands of names, every iteration of
AIX/Dynix, every contribution to Linux - including contributions IBM proposed
but didn't actually go ahead with, details of every person's work ever on AIX
or Dynix).
(I might emphasize this point by looking at SCO's Intel-related questions. Huh?
Think IBM manufacturing Intel processors, customizing them, FAB records for
Intel, Intel in IBM PC hardware, Intel in DOS, etc, etc. - none of which is
conceivably relevant to me)
(iii) IBM "failing" to adequately answer a question which is so
broad as to be essentially meaningless (SCO say the non-inclusion of Linux
advocates, is a deficiency).
As I said, IANAL, but it seems to me:
(i) and (iii) is just like a sort of bad faith complaint. IBM obviously can not
answer questions they were never asked (i). Similarly if the question is so
completely open-ended and ill-defined, any answer IBM might give to (iii), could
always be argued to be inadequate.
As for (ii), it just seems like SCO is wanting IBM to produce mounds and mounds
of documents and information, many of which can not conceivably be relevant. I
think the biggest give away here is the complaints about not providing the names
and addresses, and precise work of every individual... clearly not all of this
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| Authored by: phrostie on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 09:38 AM EST |
Funny you should bring this up. my Wife brought home the
Musical version of Scrooge. it's funny how all the songs
about Scrooge made me think of McBride. Bah Hum Bug, :-).
i was thinking about how Tarantella(what is the origins of
this name anyway?) was the Ghost of christmas past. Novell
could be the Ghost of Christmas present. IBM the Ghost of
christmass Future. i was thinking how this would make a
really good comercial for IBM durring the holiday season.
then it HIT.
they started singing, "Thank you very much, thank you very
much. That's that the nicest thing that anyones ever done
for me. It might seem somewhat bizar, but things the way
they are. It feels like a losing wars just been won for
me. and if i had a Flag i would wave it, but since i left
my flag today at home. I'll say, Thank you very much,
thank you very much, thank you very, very much....."
now when ever SCOG makes a press release i will have this
song going thru my head.
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phrostie
Oh I have slipped the surly bonds of DOS
and danced the skies on Linux silvered wings.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 10:38 AM EST |
So PJ are you going to do the "Hawaiian Boogie" once this is over?
Sorry, couldn't resist -- big Elmore James fan.
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| Authored by: brenda banks on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 10:49 AM EST |
http://www.the10b-5daily.com/archives/000220.html
i would sure like to see the scoundrels held responsible
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| Authored by: brenda banks on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 10:53 AM EST |
http://blawg.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=158
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| Authored by: Nick Bridge on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 01:45 PM EST |
I've seen a lot of posts that refer to SCO with hate.
I think that looks bad, so here's what I hate:
I hate being associated with, and even being accused of, theiving, attacking,
drug-taking and terrorism.
I hate this: Those I respect for both their technical expertise and their moral
standing are being accused of those things.
I hate words from the same respected group being twisted to malign.
I hate these words, and other lies, being spread by those in the media who
should know better.
I don't hate SCO...[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 05:09 PM EST |
Sung to the music of _ON THE ROAD AGAIN_, by Canned Heat.
_ON THE LIMB AGAIN_
Well, I'm so tired of crying,
But I'm out . . . on the limb again.
I'm on the limb again.
Well, I'm so tired of crying,
But I'm out . . . on the limb again.
I'm on the limb again.
I ain't got no evidence
That I can defend.
You know the first time I traveled
Out . . . into court with SCO -
Into court with SCO,
You know the first time I traveled
Out . . . into court with SCO -
Into court with SCO,
I didn't have no payroll,
Not even no stock to show.
And my confidence left me
When . . . the case was young -
When the case was young.
And my confidence left me
When . . . the case was young -
When the case was young.
I said "Lord, have mercy
But this turkey's done."
Give a break to me, Groklaw,
Please . . . don't you pry no more -
Don't you pry no more.
Give a break to me, Groklaw,
Please . . . don't you pry no more -
Don't you pry no more.
'Cause it's soon one morning
Off the limb I'm going.
But I aint going off
That . . . long old lonesome limb
All by myself.
But I aint going off
That . . . long old lonesome limb
All by myself.
I can't carry your case, Babe,
Gonna carry somebody else.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 22 2003 @ 09:58 PM EST |
| you should make some t-shirts =] [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: findlay on Sunday, November 23 2003 @ 03:09 AM EST |
| examplled, and regularly frequented if PJ looks broadly for legal hash on
GNU/Linux which I think she will, for there will be plenty to come in the long
years ahead of software emancipation and migration even if this is the critical
juncture.Groklaw is an acute success of a niche blog,
perhaps the paramount of all blogs. I may be wrong there but it is hard to
check onself with proper restraint when criticizing the merits of this site,
having gotten occasional daily fixes of groklaw wit to antidote my personal
poisionous recalcitrations to the SCO FUD machine so proximal (about 5 miles to
the Canopy group) and pervasive.The Internet thoerists
who analyzed their own projected views on the future ten years ago and predicted
a high flux of valuable information salience and context surely saw in vision a
site named groklaw. It is an harmonic concourse of intelligent people debating,
referencing, educating, and illuminating I wish only this kind of excellent
concert were denser out there in the wilds of IPv4.Most
of groklaw's success derives directly from PJ's personal dedication, invaluable,
and copious muse of agreeably mild assembly acumen which translates and formats
the high level legal speak into profane but pleasingly entertaining lucid baser
code. Also, the raw labors of formatting, typing, linking, and parsing the
formal glut of germanity all donated of subscribers and dedicated minions,
exhaustive scrutiny put through PJ's savvy gate leaves no minor scuffle less
than repletly considered, owing to this same robust database of authentic
documents, the authors thereof, and witted, thorough elucidation.
Bravo!(a part time groklaw junkie searching for
nominative eloquence in the midst of his warm feelings towards the site, its
star, PJ, her singular narratives, benefactors, ibiblio, etc., and intelligent,
careful subscribers :-|) [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: entre on Sunday, November 23 2003 @ 03:20 AM EST |
Blues, Maybe... or The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
http://www.boatnerd.com/fitz/ . You could get a real long ballad when this is
over, add the lwayers in on it too.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, November 24 2003 @ 03:52 AM EST |
| hey i'm actually dooing quantum chromodynamics: Groklaw is more difficult :) [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: rupertgo on Monday, November 24 2003 @ 08:15 AM EST |
Just FYI... the blues musician in the first draft was indeed the far superior
(IMO) Muddy Waters, but as he's a bit dead he'd have a hard time writing the
SCO corporate anthem. So he got changed to someone less skilled in the art but
more capable of the job, being alive.
Anyway, back to the scheduled programme...
Rupert
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| Authored by: eric76 on Monday, November 24 2003 @ 04:03 PM EST |
Someone may have already posted this link. I'm in a hurry and just barely
have time to post this so I haven't looked. If someone has already posted it, I
apologize for the duplication.
From Scoring SCO's legal
games:
But hold on before you brush up your Feynman: there is
one good thing that's come out of all this. The unofficial nexus of the SCO
affair is Groklaw, a bulletin board turned into a Web site. Here, you can find
lawyers and code hackers busily engaged in pulling the bones out of every
pronouncement that falls from the mouth of Darl McBride, CEO of SCO, and his
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