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Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 05:26 PM EDT
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We are happy to announce a new feature of Groklaw, a searchable database of quotations by principals in the SCO story. There is a link to it right under the Home link, on the left. For example, perhaps you're Red Hat, and you'd like to know everything Darl McBride ever said about your company, you can find it here. Perhaps I should qualify that last statement to say that you can find everything he ever said that we have in our database. Or maybe you read a quotation in a news story by, say, Laura DiDio, and you wonder what else she has said about this subject over the course of the SCO saga. Now you can readily find out, and I must say, the effect is cumulative.
The database has been donated to us by Groklaw reader and computer programmer LHJ, and we're very grateful to him for his wonderfully useful code. It's an ongoing database, obviously, so if you find bugs or have submissions to add to the database, just email me or leave a comment with your submission and we'll follow through. The database includes some new copyright information on the SCO/Novell copyright mystery that LHJ collected in his research.
One of the first uses of the database was by LHJ himself, to figure out who is quoted most frequently in the mainstream media on the SCO story, and I'll bet you can guess who won, hands down, but I'll let him tell you about it: "I have felt for a long time that SCO was executing a very well-planned
media strategy, together with a serious, organized program to reach out
to big investors. As bumbling as their legal strategy seems to us, they
have been very effective at getting their message out and convincing
investors to buy in.
"Like many others, I'm sure, I decided to track online media coverage of
the SCO case by reading all the stories I could and collecting quotes.
I wasn't serious about it for a while, because I kept feeling the story
would climax and die any time now. No doubt tracking of media coverage
is done routinely by company PR departments and political candidates using
staffers and extensive filing and database systems, but when I did finally
get serious, I realized I would have to do the same job in my spare time
as a one-person operation. Fortunately, open source tools like MySQL,
PHP, and Apache made it easy for me to design a system to enter and store
article titles and urls as well as quotes, all with just a few clicks.
The next step for the project would be to become a collaboration with
many eyes sifting through all the data and proposing features.
"The result now is a database of 668 articles and 846 quotes that is
easy to search for all kinds of interesting tidbits. Have SCO
executives made comments mentioning Red Hat? Search for it in a
blink of an eye. Which journalists have been most prolific
in covering the story? Another quick search.
"One interesting search I made was a check of who has been most quoted
about the case. Then I checked how often these people were quoted
week by week over the whole year so far. There are a number of
factors that make the results less than definitive. For example, I
have certainly not made an exhaustive collection of the articles and
quotes out there. It's also possible that I did a more thorough job
collecting quotes by some players over others.
Moreover, the quote count below will put heavy weight on articles and
interviews where someone is quoted multiple times, and this measure
may not be appropriate for the comparison.
"Nevertheless, the list appears with the quoted parties ranked
1-9 then A-F. Below the ranking is a week-by-week list of all quotes
labeled by the digit or letter rank of the quotee. The result is a
crude bar graph that tells you who was talking to the media when.
"I caution you from over-interpreting. It's clear that SCO executives
actively sought exposure and coverage during some periods. On the
other hand Linus Torvalds (#5 at 21 quotes) only spoke out at a few
key moments and kept to his development work the rest of the time.
When Torvalds did choose to speak out, he didn't have trouble being heard.
With that caution, here are the results:"
I hope you enjoy Groklaw's new feature. I've certainly been having fun playing with it. Like everything else about Groklaw, though, it has a serious purpose as well, and we hope you will all help out by sending us quotes with urls and your ideas for new features, so we can make this over time a truly complete work.
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Authored by: Dave Lozier on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 05:38 PM EDT |
Sweet! It's like putting a larger magnifying glass over the ants at SCO. LoL ;)
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Authored by: Nick on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 05:56 PM EDT |
If you read GrokLaw, please make use of the quote database when
researching your story. If someone says something about the SCO
cases, you can now do a 10-second search to see what else they have
said in the past, and whether what they are saying now is what they said
then. The results, in this case, are often startling and illuminating.
No excuse not to do this quick check. Let's please not let people get
away with FUD, ok? Thanks.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: nealywilly on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 06:05 PM EDT |
This new feature is awesome. Mega thanks to LHJ.
I've gone through all the small fry quoters quickly just so I can take my time
on the big fish. But using the Quote DB already has me thinking of ways to make
it even better.
For example, can a keyword search feature be added for easily tracking instances
of "patent", "copyright", "trademark",
"intellectual property", "license"? It would be great
to also have a 1-9 A-F ranking of the most relevant keywords to see what their
literal focus is in hard numbers, so to speak.
Hopefully I can add to this font of information.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 06:14 PM EDT |
This is great. I found the following errors:
quote:
Here are these people who claim we are pirates but refuse to say where and how
Is contributed to mcBride, but is made by Bruce Perens.
quote:
We're absolutely not going away, and they're not giving up, so we got a big
problem.
This one is twice in the database.
Hans[ Reply to This | # ]
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- 2 errors - Authored by: LHJ on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 08:17 PM EDT
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Authored by: theswede on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 06:18 PM EDT |
Very nice! I think this will come in very handy (and I wouldn't be surprised if
it gets slashdotted as well). And the basic idea is useful for future cases of
the same type. It would be very interesting to apply this kind of database to
the typical marketing machine of, say, that company in Redmond. Although they
would probably try to sic the DMCA on it, or something ...[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: ra on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 06:18 PM EDT |
Is there anything Groklaw readers can do to contribute? Any way we can submit
articles and quotes that would make the db easier to maintain?[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 06:26 PM EDT |
quote:
O'Shaughnessy moved to clarify the local position after the company's US
spokesperson, Blake Stowell, said one of the reasons for the extension was that
SCO had not had the time to make the [discount] offer globally. "The
rationale was that this pricing had not been rolled out in certain regions of
the world, where we wanted to offer this introductory pricing in a timely
manner," he said. O'Shaughnessy said given that the licences were not due
to be available in Australia and New Zealand until the end of the year, the
two-week extension in the US was irrelevant.
by O'Shaughnessy
on 17 October 2003
in http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/os/story/0,2000048630,20279876,00.htm
hans[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 06:34 PM EDT |
I have found this interesting text on
a report on IT analysts credibility. It includes a
table with the analysis firms' policies on research funded by an IT vendor.
I have tested the link and it seems that Groklaw's software somehow messes
it. I copy the full URL below but beware, it will wrap on multiple lines. You
will have to manually fix it.
http://www.computerworld.com/managementtopics/outsourcing/itservices/story/
0,10801,85963,00.html [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: nealywilly on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 07:03 PM EDT |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/29632.html
"IBM has taken our valuable trade secrets and given them away to
Linux™," said Scaldera CEO Darl McBride.
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Authored by: nealywilly on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 07:10 PM EDT |
Go to all the main publications and use their search site capability. I'm
doing The Register now. I think this would go fast if each person would pick a
publication, and compare its quotes to the DB and send link and quote here as
needed. Less duplication of effort that way.
I tried Google News, but they seem to only keep a month or so worth of stories.
Google search needs too many filters to elimate noise (press releases, SCO
website, etc.).[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 07:13 PM EDT |
Here's one quote that I didn't see for McBride:
"That's like saying, 'show us the fingerprints on the gun so you can rub
them off.'" (Wall Street Journal, May 19, 2003)"
http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2003/05/pr03033.html
I also didn't see this quote from Sontag, for example, that I searched for:
"For one thing [replacing the offending code] doesn't solve the past
problems," he said.
http://www.computerweekly.com/Article124469.htm
Someone should also make sure all the ones listed here are in the database:
http://www.anerispress.com/wltsim/[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: mflaster on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 07:16 PM EDT |
This is great!
But I'm a little confused - there doesn't really seem to be any general search
interface. Instead, there are a set of pre-determined searches.
Any thoughts to adding some kind of more flexible searches? Like find all
quotes with a given keyword?
Heck, you could give an SQL interface, there are *some* people that would be
able to use it! :-)
Mike
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Authored by: arch_dude on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 07:21 PM EDT |
After contacting PJ, I tried to use two open source OCR programs to convert the
various legal documents to ASCII.
I failed.
This means that we cannot use automated techniques to incorporate the legal
documents into this database, unless either (1) somebody else succeeds with an
OCR scanning effort; (2) somebody convinces IBM, Red Hat, or both to contribute
machine-readable versions of these documents to GROKLAW, or (3) we undertake a
manual conversion effort.
If we decide to undertake a manual conversion effort, we would split all of the
scanned documents among a set of GROKLAW volunteers, and each volunteer would
manually type in a subset of the documents.
I decided to try the OCR approach after I noticed that PJ had posted some
relevant portions of the Red Hat documents at 2:45AM, after manually typing them
in. Unfortunately, The OCR software which i downloaded (Clara and GOCR) were
unable to cope with the files that we have available to us.
For those of you who are not technically oriented, here is a brief explanation.
The PDF files we have available were scanned in either by a court employee (
in Utah: the IBM case) or by a dedicated GROKLAW denizen (in Delaware: the Red
Hat case.) The resulting files are essentially pictures of typewritten
documents. Frequently they are computer-scanned pictures of photocopies of
photocopies... A human such as PJ or yourself can figure out what these pictures
actually say. An OCR program grows very confused in many cases.
If we can type in all of these documents, then we can do searches on the
contents.
I personally am "organizationally challenged." If someone on GROKLAW
is better organized than I am, we may be able to split the workload. If we can
get 100 volunteers, we can split the documents into 50 pieces. Each volunteer
can type in one of the 50 pieces. We will then have two versions of each piece.
The two versions can be compared automatically, and the two typists for the
piece can then make corrections.
The object of this excersize is to keep PJ from staying up until 2:45AM doing
typing. We need for PJ to get enough sleep to stay alert and do her paralegal
stuff.
PROPOSAL:
1)Please comment: is this a worthwhile project?
2) If you think this is a worthwhile project and you have time, please
volunteer to lead the project.
3) AFTER WE HAVE A PROJET LEAD: Please vounteer as a typist.
4) We need a programmer to set up the edit/validation
5) we need a programmer to add the result to the "quotes"
database.
If we do this at all, let's do it in order. If nobody volunteers to be project
lead, let's not even start.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 09:14 PM EDT |
"I am grinning a grin that should frighten the thieves and liars at SCO
out of a week's sleep." - Eric Raymond
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1257617,00.asp
"IBM has been happily giving part of the AIX code away to the Linux
community, but the problem is that they don't own the AIX code," McBride
said.
http://www.eweek.com/print_article/0,3668,a=38234,00.asp
"MozillaQuest Magazine: If not, does SCO claim that it is entitled
toregister copyrights for the Unix extensions developed by IBM?
Blake Stowell: SCO will not register those because they do not belong toSCO.
They belong to IBM."
http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux03/ScoSource-24-Copyrights_Story01.html
"SCO Group, the Unix copyright holder that's threatening Linux-using
companies with legal action if they don't pay for a license to run the
open-source operating system, said Monday that one company in the Fortune 500
list of the world's biggest corporations had been convinced by its arguments.
SCO declined to say which company took out the license or to reveal licensing
specifics."
http://news.com.com/2100-1016-5062396.html
"Despite the community outrage, SCO received over 900 telephone calls in
the week after it went public with the licensing plan, and some of those calls
have now begun turning into licensing deals, according to company spokesman
Blake Stowell. The company has signed up at least one additional customer since
it sold its first IP License for Linux on Aug. 11, he said."
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/09/04/HNscocustomer_1.html
"As of Tuesday [Sept. 2], we actually began making the license available.
Selling it and mailing it to someone is not something we've actually done as
yet, but as of today we are able to do that."
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1253090,00.asp[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 09:54 PM EDT |
THJ,
Nice bit of work, thanks.
D.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: kbwojo on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 10:13 PM EDT |
With everyone talking about news articles I figured I would add a link to a site
that has several hundred (not exagerating) links to news articles about SCO and
a few others limks that contain relevent information about the issues involved.
They have divided up the articles into different sections; For example they have
SCOisms and stupidity (contains links to 40 articles), SGI related material,
Humor, and the largest section that is split into an alphabetical listing by the
beggining letter of the article. They even have a section "Other Web
Sites, and resources dedicated to ending the SCO FUD campaign" and yes
Groklaw is listed.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/no2sco/links
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Authored by: ZeusLegion on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 10:39 PM EDT |
What would be nifty is a "Who's Who?" database containing all the
chess pieces from Yarro and McBride to the management of Canopy's child
corporations, mysterious financial allies and pro-SCO analysts blessed with
precognition.
This would be useful for our investigative purposes if, for example, someone
here finds some article, document or website info that has the name of someone
they suspect of aiding SCO's unscrupulous activities. We could then enter the
name and see if they come up and if so, verify who they are, where they work and
what significance they may have, if any, in aiding SCO's illegal and unethical
activities.
This way, we know who's hand is in which cookie jar.
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Z[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 10:44 PM EDT |
Good job
Don't forget SCO press releases (which sometimes contain quotes by individuals
as well as generally attributable to SCO), teleconferences, etc
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Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 18 2003 @ 11:42 PM EDT |
Some older ones. I'll just pick out my favorite bits. There is more in the
articles
http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/1999080500804PR
http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/enterprise/story/0,2000048640,20100780,00.htm
Good quotes from Doug Michaels and David Gloria about why Caldera acquired parts
of SCO. Also stuff about migrating stuff from Unixware into Linux, so SCO can
get a better Linux before 2.4 is released. Ransom Love, planning to Open source
as much as possible of Unixware.
From:
http://www.practical-tech.com/business/b08022000.htm
From:
http://www.practical-tech.com/business/b08022000.htm
Good quotes about SCO's reseller channel (including the anonymous one)
Not a quote, but interesting (there are some quotes in the article though):
From:
http://www.gihyo.co.jp/magazine/SD/pacific/SD_0102.html
George Weiss, Andrew Orloski also all over this and very interesting comments I
think.
Same link ... there's an interview in same link with "Benoy Tamang:
Caldera VP of Strategic Development". Some fun bits (note the 2nd one - PJ
et al). Enjoy the answers to these two questions:
Do you plan to make UnixWare open source as well?
Linux represents a better Internet play than UnixWare?
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Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, October 19 2003 @ 12:34 AM EDT |
When SGI contributed XFS to Linux, Ransom Love said it says a lot about SGI's
vision and business acumen.
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=1999-05-20-029-05-PR[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, October 19 2003 @ 01:31 AM EDT |
Great stuff
Don't forget more of Jonathan Cohen's quotes (there's only
1 in the db now):
only in google cache now - so save the page!
http://216.239.41.104/searc
h?q=cache:6y_ffq2VyxUJ:www.threenorth.com/sco/cohen.html+jonathan+cohen+sco&
hl=en&ie=UTF-8
also include these links:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&am
p;lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=site%3Athreenorth.com+sco&btnG=Google+Search
a>
Should more than quotes be searchable, too -- opinions/leads too
that can be followed up on?
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Authored by: ra on Sunday, October 19 2003 @ 04:18 AM EDT |
http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux03/ScoSource-24-Copyrights_Story01.html
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MozillaQuest Magazine: Does SCO have registered copyrights for JFS, NUMA, and
RCU?
Blake Stowell: No we don't, but this is not a copyright case. This is a
contracts case. We have taken IBM to court because they are in breach of
contract.
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MozillaQuest Magazine: If not, does SCO claim that it is entitled to register
copyrights for the Unix extensions developed by IBM?
Blake Stowell: SCO will not register those because they do not belong to SCO.
They belong to IBM.
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I'm not sure if the unedited text of an interview counts as one quotation or
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Authored by: Newsome on Sunday, October 19 2003 @ 04:52 AM EDT |
Don't forget the stuff that Darl said during the
informal
Q&A with demonstrators. --- Frank Sorenson [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Wesley_Parish on Sunday, October 19 2003 @ 05:22 AM EDT |
Just a reference to Groklaw -
Editor's Note: A Few Questions For SCO From a Hypothetical
Investor
--- finagement: The Vampire's veins and Pacific torturers stretching back
through his own season. Well, cutting like a child on one of these states of
view, I duck [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, October 19 2003 @ 05:47 AM EDT |
Would It not be in Yankee Group's interest and in the public
interest that your published works be accurate? That these works add value to
the debate and not make factual errors and baseless assertions?-- Laura DiDio,
2003-07-31
Doesn't seem like DiDio would say this.
I suspect the
software was fooled by a misplaced double quote on the webpage.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: nealywilly on Sunday, October 19 2003 @ 06:20 AM EDT |
I am excited about the the quote database, but I am also exasperated about the
effort it will take to make it complete and yet not redundant.
The problem is that too many quotes are repeated in too many articles. So, even
if you search just within a particular news site (like cNet, news.com.com) for
SCO or Caldera you get articles and revised articles that have the same quotes.
Although being able to count each instance a quote was published and which media
outlets have covered this story the most would have value, the effort is very
human mechanical and not very machine mechanical (i.e., automated).
Can ESR's Comparator program be run (or modified to run) as a web crawler or
used with Google someway to compare all occurrences of the names of the
principals (e.g., McBride, Sontag, Stowell) to find UNIQUE quotes? After
reading what ESR designed Compartor to do, I know it's apples and oranges, but
as a non-techy please indulge me to layout what I have in mind.
Example: Search for "mcbride" on any webpage that also mentioned
"SCO" or "Caldera" and then read X number of characters
before and Y number of characters after each hit on "mcbride" to
create a user defined quote chunk, XmcbrideY, with a length X+7+Y (in this
example) that is sufficiently long to ensure that the quote is unique (e.g.,
10mcbride10 would yield the useless "said darl mcbride, sco ceo ",
or an 8mcbride6 would yield "saiddarlmcbridescoceo" if white space
is eliminated).
I realize that finding unique strings is the opposite of what Comparator is
supposed to do, but I figure someone can just "reverse the
polarity", so to speak.
The XsearchY chunks would then be compared and all unique chunks plus only one
instance of each non-unique chunk would represent the universe of quotes
available. But keep in mind that this list would still require review because of
partial quotes and any false quoters, for example a "john mcbride"
(no relation) who wrote a review of a OSS app that runs on SCO Unix.
I'm willing to noodle through these problems and others with whoever wants to,
once someone can attest to whether anything remotely like this can be applied to
the internet.
If so, it may not only be useful to GrokLaw, but maybe have some really
powerful, broader uses that I haven't thought of. Perhaps this is how Google
already determines that "In order to show you the most relevant results,
we have omitted some entries VERY SIMILAR to the 77 already displayed."
[CAPS added]
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Authored by: dentonj on Sunday, October 19 2003 @ 08:02 AM EDT |
IBM walked away from Project Monterey, and they told us if we didn't
like it, sue us. That took two years out of our life. IBM took chunks out of
Monterey, and gave it away. You can find it in Red Hat and SuSE Linux. When IBM
pulled out of Monterey, they did it concurrently with moving over to Linux. The
heat has been turning up on this for some time.-- Darl McBride,
2003-04-24
[tinfoil hat]
It's my opinion that Project Monterey
is what started the whole thing. Sequent, SCO, and IBM worked together for
several years on Monterey. Sequent brought to the project RCU, NUMA, and a few
other technologies. IBM decided that Sequent's technologies were worth
something. The only thing SCO really had was the old SysV source code. So IBM
bought Sequent and dropped out of Project Monterey, leaving behind the dead
weight (SCO).
What we haven't seen is the contract that Sequent, SCO and IBM
agreed upon while working on Monterey. My guess is that somewhere in that
contract was something along the lines that any new technologies
used/developed/etc. with the project would be shared amoung the different
companies (I'm reaching here). SCO may actually have some rights to the RCU,
NUMA, etc. technologies because of Project Monterey. SCO may have a valid
lawsuit against IBM over the purchase of Sequent and subsequent release of the
technologies into Linux. Until someone gets ahold of the contract between them,
we will never know.
Somewhere along the lines between when IBM pulled out
of the project and when the lawsuit was filed, SCO got a little too greedy.
Maybe Darl saw a large pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Or maybe he had a
little bit of nudging from a third party(ies) who would like to see Linux fail
(or just wanted a larger pot of gold to share). SCO filed their $1 billion
lawsuit against IBM and then started making their outrageous claims regarding
Linux.
Maybe if SCO had shown a little restraint and asked for a LOT less in
damages in their lawsuit, things would have been different. IBM may have
settled a smaller lawsuit that would not have been so publisized. But SCO made
the mistake of attacking the very thing that IBM is betting it's future on.
Even if SCO had a valid lawsuit to begin with, IBM is now compelled to fight to
the death. Given that the US government gave up on suing IBM, SCO will be a
smoldering crater when this whole mess is over.
SCO's continued efforts to
stick their foot in their mouth at every opportunity is not helping them. If
SCO had simply stayed with their claims regarding RCU, NUMA, etc., they would
probably been in a lot better shape. But when SCO claimed that over a million
lines of coded are copied into Linux, they started dragging skeletons out of the
UNIX closet that they don't really want to disturb (AT&T, Novell, BSD,
etc.).
I can't think of why SCO thought it could charge users for using
Linux. Maybe Darl got a little too greedy or someone helped him come up with
that idea. The appearant SEC violations with regard to SCOX seems to be an
after thought. This agains seems like someone got a little too greedy. Or it
could have been a learned conditioned-response that someone didn't realize was
illegal (make outrageous claims, stock price goes up...). As someone mentioned
on Slashdot, the SEC only gets involved after all is said and done. They kick
the dead body, dance around it chanting, cut off the head, and then place it on
a stick as a warning to everyone else.
[/tinfoil hat]
If I'm out in
left field here, let me know....
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Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, October 19 2003 @ 08:52 AM EDT |
Lovely work, politicians would pay millions for a rapid rebuttal network
like this. You should really think about setting up a tip jar, at least to
keep you guys in pizza...
I'm sure you're going to get showered with quotes, but here's my
favorite:
Ransom Love, Caldera CEO 1999/5/20 on SGI's XFS efforts:
http://linuxpr.com/releases/13.html
"This is terrific news and we're happy to have SGI as part of the open
source family," said Ransom Love, president and CEO of Caldera
Systems, Inc. "There's a great need in Linux for business to have that
enterprise-class file technology and storage capability. Daily, we have
enterprise customers asking for these solutions - particularly where
graphics are concerned. With SGI's contribution and expertise in
journaling, throughput and data integrity, we can meet the file sharing/
storage needs of those customers with the best technology available.
That SGI would make this contribution to the open source community
says a lot about their vision and business acumen." [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, October 19 2003 @ 03:52 PM EDT |
We should tell journalists who write about the SCO case about the database,
ditto analysts. Maybe having it availible would help them they could look up
the topic on the database and see all the times it previously said the exact
opposite.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Wol on Monday, October 20 2003 @ 08:13 AM EDT |
If you're OCR'ing documents, what resolution were they scanned at? Faxes work
at 200dpi, printers at 300dpi ...
And scanners default to 72dpi. ABSOLUTELY CRAP for ocr especially if you're
working from a poor quality original.
I've found, however, if you scan a crap fax at 300dpi, it will then OCR pretty
well - I once scanned a spreadsheet that had faxed over totally grot, and I
didn't find a single ocr error at 300dpi (at 72dpi, it wouldn't ocr at all!)
Cheers,
Wol[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: tgnb on Monday, October 20 2003 @ 03:29 PM EDT |
SCO Preparing Legal Action Against Customer
http://tinyurl.com/kku3
"There's a bouncing ball that ends up in the hands of customers because
of the GPL," said McBride.[ Reply to This | # ]
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