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What's Wrong With The Latest FairSearch Complaint to the EU Commision About Google? A Lot ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, July 18 2013 @ 05:09 PM EDT
Google used its “desktop search dominance” to fund and give away its Android
operating system for free and has since taken over the market for licensable
mobile operating systems.
Google imposes “de facto” anti-competitive exclusive agreements on Android
handset makers.
Google is leveraging its positions in desktop search and mobile OS by
bundling its Mobile Search with Android “to exclude competition in search on
mobile platforms.”
Google is bundling its own mobile services in Android through free preloaded
apps “in order to foreclose competing apps and service providers.”


I suspect plagiarism from decades past:

Microsoft used its “desktop OS dominance” to fund and give away its Internet
Explorer Browser for free and has since taken over the market for licensable
internet browsers.
Microsoft imposes “de facto” anti-competitive exclusive agreements on
Windows desktop computer makers.
Microsoft is leveraging its positions in desktop computer OS by bundling its
Internet Explorer Browser with Windows “to exclude competition in desktop
computer OS.”
Microsoft is bundling its own services in Windows through free preloaded
apps “in order to foreclose competing apps and service providers.”

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What's Wrong With The Latest FairSearch Complaint to the EU Commision About Google? A Lot ~pj
Authored by: PJ on Thursday, July 18 2013 @ 05:21 PM EDT
They didn't figure out that the search complaint
was bogus.

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PJ says: Lordy, one could write a book about Microsoft.
Authored by: squib on Thursday, July 18 2013 @ 05:32 PM EDT
Wendy Goldman Rohm already has.

The Microsoft File : The Secret Case Against Bill Gates

Although it was published in 1998, the M$ modus operadi hasn't changed. Billy's father was a prominent lawyer. So M$ is not so much a software house but a litigation company that just happens to market software.

P.S. Please don't delve into to this book as light bed time reading. It get the adrenalin flowing too much.

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Streetmap UK
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, July 18 2013 @ 06:06 PM EDT
I believe Streetmap UK are also a party to this complaint. I used streetmap
extensively to find locations in the UK: it was uptodate (locally) and the map
print layout was effective.

Over the past 2 years, however, most location searches through Google returned
only Google map items, often with a paid-for PoI (point of interest) reference
such as a nearby hotel or restaurant.

About 2 weeks after I read about this FairSearch complaint in Groklaw, for the
first time ever that I can recall, I started to get Streetmap returns for
postcodes etc.

What an amazing co-incidence.

PS I'm not a troll: I missed my 'streetmap' and was pleased to see it back.

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What's Wrong With The Latest FairSearch Complaint to the EU Commision About Google? A Lot ~pj
Authored by: jonathon on Thursday, July 18 2013 @ 06:29 PM EDT
From the linked article (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9238260
Group_led_by_Microsoft_Nokia_takes_aim_at_Android_with_EU_complaint.)

>The way Google packages apps such Maps and YouTube on Android-based
smartphones "disadvantages other providers,

My impression was that anybody could use Android, with the "package
requirement" only kicking in, if the vendor wanted to include those
packages.

As best as I can determine, both FLOSS and non-FLOSS alternatives to everything
on the list of apps included in the "package requirement" exist.

Furthermore, not all of the applications included in the "required packages
list" as provided by FairSearch, were included on my Google Experience
Device.

As an unidentified Google employee said: "We make our money from
applications that other people create and distribute, not the apps we
create."

>and puts Google's Android in control of consumer data on a majority of
smartphones shipped today,"

The "issue" for FairSearch is that consumers have not willingly handed
over that data to their members, the way that consumers have handed it over to
FaceBook, Google, and other competitors of the FairSearch consortium.

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What's Wrong With The Latest FairSearch Complaint to the EU Commision About Google? A Lot ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, July 22 2013 @ 07:34 AM EDT
When this was originally raised - I lodged a complaint with
comp-consumers@ec.europa.eu about Fairsearch/Microsoft's
behaviour - I have copied in their response below -

"Thank you very much for your email of 10 April 2013 in
which you express concerns about the Fairsearch complaint on
Google's business practices in the mobile phone sector.

For the avoidance of doubt, it should be stated that we
regard your information as market information and not as a
formal complaint that has to comply with all legal
requirements set out in Article 5 of Commission Regulation
773/2004.

At the moment the Commission's services are thoroughly
examining the issues raised in the complaint with a view to
deciding whether or not a further investigation of those
issues is warranted.

The European Commission is committed to ensure that European
competition rules are fully respected by all companies in
the IT sector as in any other sectors of the economy.
Therefore we appreciate that you have chosen to inform us of
this issue and we have taken note of your concerns.

Market information, such as the one you have given us, is
often not in itself sufficient to give rise to an
investigation. That being said, information from various
sources may form a pattern which might lead the Commission
to initiate an investigation at a later stage.

I nevertheless thank you for submitting this market
information."

The key here being - "That being said, information from
various sources may form a pattern which might lead the
Commission to initiate an investigation at a later stage"

If you are in a situation that you can send in "market
information" about their behaviour please do as they may
launch an investigation in the end.

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What's Wrong With The Latest FairSearch Complaint to the EU Commision About Google? A Lot ~pj
Authored by: David665 on Monday, July 22 2013 @ 08:51 PM EDT
Arstechnica.com just posted an article about Samsung cutting google out of the loop with its own developers conference. Wouldn't that be impossible under the assumptions made by MS and Friends? Samsung Dev Conference

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