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Justice Scalia: Why is govmnt involved in religious institution of marriage in first place?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 02:21 PM EDT

In Europe, prior to the twelfth century, marriage was purely a social thing. Neither state nor religious sanctioning was available.

From the twelfth to the sixteenth century, marriage was the purview of the religious authorities. The state had nothing to do with the institution.

Even after Martin Luther telling the princes that they should be the ones under whose purview marriage forms, states were reluctant to get involved in it.

It was only after WW1, that governments used "protection of children" as a rational for controlling marriage. Traditionally, the state has only wanted children for use as canon fodder.

Historically, it has been the church that looked after the welfare of children, not the state. More precisely, it has been churches that are not part of the government apparatus, that has been concerned about the protection of children.

As far as the United States goes, the state took control of marriage as a direct result of Jim Crow laws, and the enforced segregation enforced by the North, upon the South.

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Relatively recently that MEN left the farm en masse....
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 04:56 PM EDT
That is, at the start of the 20th century (or was it the 19th? working from
memory), something like 98% of the population was farmers...now it is the
opposite.

But certainly concepts like "Alimony" reflect a protection of the
women with the children ideal.

And I am not trying to say that protection of "families", especially
the now-endangered post WW-II "nuclear" families (just 2 parents and
underage children) isn't worthwhile. But the state ought to extend such
protection to all domestic partnerships so desiring it.



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