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Who says warrant is needed?
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 17 2013 @ 01:53 AM EDT
> but no one can listen to the conversation until they get a warrant

Siri can. And she can listen to more conversations faster than
any human on the payroll. Yup, creepy alright.

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Nadler refutes - says warrant is needed
Authored by: bprice on Monday, June 17 2013 @ 02:48 AM EDT
"I am pleased that the administration has reiterated that, as I have always believed, the NSA cannot listen to the content of Americans’ phone calls without a specific warrant."
So, collection is still ok, but no one can listen to the conversation until they get a warrant.
Not quite the case that no one can listen: read it more carefully. No one at NSA can listen, legally, without a warrant. There are a bunch of people in and around NSA that are able to listen for whatever purpose they may have in mind.

In particular, the US government-security apparatus has shown no apparent qualms a outsourcing illegal activities to other agencies, and has shown few qualms about unilaterally determining that desired illegal activities are to be considered legal after all.

Further, the US government-security apparatus has not shown much competence at keeping "secure" information actually secure. The best they seem to be able to do is to threaten after-the-fact punishment for those that are caught, or admit to exposing the security inadequacies.

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--Bill. NAL: question the answers, especially mine.

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What they aren't saying
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 17 2013 @ 11:54 AM EDT
There have been several VIPs saying things like that: "we can only legally
listen with a warrant", or "listening/reading content would be
illegal", but none of them actually say it isn't happening.

Take away conclusion: "Legality is an inconvenience, but we have
ways..."

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