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Authored by: JamesK on Tuesday, June 11 2013 @ 10:51 AM EDT |
Traffic analysis has long been a tool for intelligence gathering. During WW2,
when much was made about breaking Japanese and German codes, simply seeing where
the enemy's traffic was going and how much, could provide important clues, even
if the messages themselves could not be read.
Even without Prism, telecommunications companies have long performed traffic
analysis, not to spy on customers, but to determine network capacity
requirements.
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 11 2013 @ 03:33 PM EDT |
The comment by Clemente that "all digital communications are — there's a
way to look at digital communications in the past" suggests the technology
is "save it to disk and analyze offline"...
When asked how much it would cost to do this level of traffic analysis for a
small ISP, I came up with a price for a sufficient deep-packet-inspection box
and associated infrastructure that cost almost as much as their existing routing
backplane.
Their response? "If this is imposed on us, we'll spool everything to disk,
which will cost a fraction of what you suggested. In addition, keeping a
circular buffer of everything will allow the police to get the data, not just
the metadata."
Fortunately the Canadian government hasn't required ISPs to pay to put in their
own snooping infrastructure, although they have proposed doing so.
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Authored by: soronlin on Tuesday, June 11 2013 @ 03:58 PM EDT |
Expert says Kiwis under constant
surveillance
The good professor holds that the Bluffdale Data Center
was built to house the collected data and its capacity is around 5 exabytes
(Wikipedia agrees, although we can't be sure what its purpose is.) Let's assume
for a moment that every US citizen is targeted. There are 316 million US
citizens. So the NSA expects to have to hold 16GB of data on each one. That's
not much if it's video data of course, but one assumes the NSA can filter out
streamed episodes of Friends. The NSA maintains that they only keep data on
conversations with people outside the USA. If we assume 90% of US citizens never
communicate outside the USA, that means the NSA expects to hold 158GB on
everyone who does.
That seems to me too large for a reasonably filtered
data-set, even if they were holding communication content as well as meta-data.
It seems more likely that this is some other invasion of privacy, for example
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 11 2013 @ 04:26 PM EDT |
zdnet
Evolutionary, not revolutionary. Oh and
zdnet's pages load
faster and are easier to read than Apple's
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- that link is 404'd - Authored by: nsomos on Tuesday, June 11 2013 @ 04:46 PM EDT
- Sorry - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 11 2013 @ 06:23 PM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 11 2013 @ 06:23 PM EDT |
comment being:
[PJ: Given likely fears of what PRISM knows about them, they'll probably vote
for it to continue to the end of time, as Congress and Presidents did with J.
Edgar Hoover.]
Good one, I believe the same.
But how much time to come can one permit such a remark without being suspected
of being an enemy of that system and therefore being caught up in this
"fear system" oneself ?
What can one safely blog and what is "out of line" for the system?
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Authored by: Tim on Tuesday, June 11 2013 @ 09:11 PM EDT |
PJ, Please reconsider your comment attached to the News Pick:
Apple Boots Google for Microsoft in Siri
At its
developer conference Monday, Apple said Bing is
displacing Google as the
default source for searches spoken into the Siri
voice assistant for iPhone and
iPad. That means
starting with the next version of the iOS software, released
to consumers
in the fall, people who ask Siri for Kim Kardashian’s birthday
will get
answers from Bing.
[PJ: And since asking Siri anything means your
request is sent to Apple,
does that mean you end up double surveilled, being in
the control of both
Apple *and* Microsoft?]
Until the
announcement Siri has used Google's search engine. The
Guardian's timeline for
data collection by the NSA shows that Microsoft's
was the first in November
2007; Google's started in January 2009;
and Apple's did not start until October
2012. So the data from Siri may
have been available through Google nearly 3
years before it was available
from Apple:
Guardian article.
As an aside, I note that many of the companies
involved have stated that
the government did not have access to their servers.
If true, I would
assume that they would have had access to all of the data
coming in to the companies servers, and all of the data going out to their
users through the network infrastructure - You don't need access to what
is
actually on the server - This
technique was used to monitor electronic
communications by Western Governments from at least the 1960s, before
computing became ubiquitous: Link to Wikipedia -
ECHELON
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 11 2013 @ 11:08 PM EDT |
The Guardian published a leaked FISC Section 215 court order well
ahead of its declassification date
of 2038.
The Verge Is this another symptom of
the Y2K38 problem?
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