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Rationale and Impacts but no Law
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, May 31 2013 @ 12:35 AM EDT
> I don't see any citations of the Law.

Maybe that's because the Law has thus far ignored
the many good reasons you observed.

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Rationale and Impacts but no Law
Authored by: mpellatt on Friday, May 31 2013 @ 01:41 AM EDT
The legal argument for upholding the original decision is that it is based on existing written and case law. Google can make this case quite happily on their own, with all the necessary references.

Oracle, whatever it might claim, is arguing for an extension of the subject matter coverage of Copyright Law. This will, almost by definition, have a technological and economic impact and it is this that the amici brief addresses.

Courts continuously change the detailed interpretation of existing laws. Such is the nature of legislation. It is usually small changes around the edges. This is a land grab for Copyright Law, and therefore these arguments need to made strongly and loudly by the best people in the field.

It will be interesting to see if anyone comes up with a brief for Oracle's position, and if so, who it is.

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§ 102(b) is mentioned FOURTEEN TIMES
Authored by: jbb on Friday, May 31 2013 @ 03:04 AM EDT
From the Legal Information Institution (at Cornell University):
17 USC § 102 - Subject matter of copyright: In general

(b) In no case does copyright protection for an original work of authorship extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept, principle, or discovery, regardless of the form in which it is described, explained, illustrated, or embodied in such work

Also, since the amici are technology experts, not legal, experts, it would make perfect sense for their arguments to be mainly based on technology, not legalities, but not only was § 102(b) mentioned repeatedly, the brief cites many of the most prominent case-law precedents.

One of Oracle's main (yet totally bogus) legal arguments in their appeal is that Alsup's ruling has upset the current status quo. This brief (signed by many of the people who established the status quo in the computer world) shows in gory detail how that argument by Oracle is full of baloney.

I'm sorry if this is terribly insulting but your backhanded accusation that this brief contains "no law" makes me wonder if you are perchance a member of Oracle's legal team. I'm reminded of the aphorism:

If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts.
If you have the law on your side, pound the law.
If you have neither on your side, pound the table.
This brief clearly shows that the facts are on Google's side but that does not mean the law is therefore on Oracle's side. The only thing available for Oracle to legitimately pound on is the table.

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