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Not just Java
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, May 31 2013 @ 09:51 AM EDT

Think how Oracle's arguments could apply to MySQL and MariaDB.

RAS

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That's it. No more Java for me or my students.
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, May 31 2013 @ 10:37 AM EDT

Golly gee whiz.

Programmers are licensed to use the language and review the documentation. If I want to implement a variant of ArrayList that follows Oracle's published interface called List, I may. I just cannot add it to the java package.

Oracle is arguing that they have a right to require other companies license re-implementations of java. I thought about it and think Oracle is wrong. And Oracle did over-reach with the claim APIs are copyrightable. I'm pleased good people whose books (and languages) I use are on my side.

But, I do a lot of stuff in java. I do a lot of stuff in racket. I'm in courtship mode with scala, which runs on the jvm. (It takes me a couple of years of thinking before I apply a language.) I cannot speak to professors who reject a language because one stakeholder wants money from a re-implementer using it commercially. Honestly, and I apologize that this judgmental, I cannot speak to a professor who lets politics override effectiveness as a criteria for evaluating a teaching language. Then again, is java the best language for teaching programming? I don't think so, but I have no stakes in that game.

But, as a programmer who uses java, unless Oracle changes its licensing so that something I want or need to do costs me money, I'm sticking with a language with which I have done and can do good work.

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That's it. No more Java for me or my students.
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 03 2013 @ 01:24 PM EDT
Java "become a black sheep" - too late by half!
This goes for Oracle in spades, they have painted
a bright orange line around themselves, using
the kind of radioactive, glow-in-the-dark paint
you know to run away from when you see it.

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