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Those definitions are neither accurate nor precise | 215 comments | Create New Account
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It's a sticky wicket...
Authored by: albert on Wednesday, May 29 2013 @ 07:10 PM EDT
accuracy - technical, the degree to which the result of a measurement,
calculation, or specification conforms to the correct value or a standard: the
accuracy of radiocarbon dating.

precision - technical, refinement in a measurement, calculation, or
specification, especially as represented by the number of digits given: a
technique which examines and identifies each character with the highest level of
precision.

both from oxforddictionaries.com

I would say: "that news story is accurate"

I would say: that measurement of length is accurate with a precision of +/- 0.1
mm.

I would use 'precision' when something is clearly quantifiable.

But that's me. 'Accuracy' seems to be more useful than 'precision' in most
cases.

That's my 0.02€


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Not convinced
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, May 29 2013 @ 07:29 PM EDT
Any Numerical Analysis textbook will discuss (in chapter 1) the (EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT!) difference between accuracy and precision. The concepts will also
have to be discussed early in any science course that involves actual
quantitative measurements (chemistry, physics, etc.)

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Not convinced
Authored by: tknarr on Wednesday, May 29 2013 @ 08:43 PM EDT

In casual use the two terms are interchangeable. But scientists and technical types need to distinguish between:

  1. How many decimal places (or significant digits) are there in my measurement?
  2. How close is my measurement to the actual value?
The norm is that "precision" is used for the first and "accuracy" for the second. In casual use most people assume that if the measurement isn't accurate you don't care much about the precision, which leads to the parallel assumption that if you're precise you must be accurate (or you wouldn't be talking about precision), which leads to the interchangeability.

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Not convinced
Authored by: PolR on Wednesday, May 29 2013 @ 10:07 PM EDT
Guys, please explain to me why the meaning of these terms in numerical analysis is relevant to news coverage. I just don't see what is wrong with the ordinary meanings of the words.

Since someone brings up oxforddictionaries.com, here is what I read.

The definition of accuracy

the quality or state of being correct or precise
The definition of precision
the quality, condition, or fact of being exact and accurate
If this isn't a pair of circular references I don't know what is.

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Those definitions are neither accurate nor precise
Authored by: artp on Wednesday, May 29 2013 @ 10:17 PM EDT
We want each news medium to be accurate. We want all the
news media to be precise across the spectrum of their
collective reporting.

I'm used to the engineering definitions of accuracy and
precision. An engineering drawing has dimensions recorded as
" x =/- y " where x is the accuracy, and y is the precision.
This is not quite the same as looking at the number of
digits of precision that a value has. Engineering notes that
some values are overspecified and have too many digits.
Digits alone do not provide precision.

But there is a mathematical term that looks at digits of
precision. So confusion ensues.

Precision is what enabled the Industrial Revolution and
replaceable parts. Repeatability is crucial.

To repeat a description using a dartboard:
Accuracy is where the circle of darts is centered. Precision
is how big the circle is.

Accuracy is using a tape measure to determine a dimension on
a valve. Precision is everybody else laughing because the
valve face is specified to thousandths of an inch. :-)

---
Userfriendly on WGA server outage:
When you're chained to an oar you don't think you should go down when the galley
sinks ?

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That's because...
Authored by: Doghouse on Thursday, May 30 2013 @ 06:16 AM EDT

...dictonary.com is precise but not always accurate.

Dictionaries merely document language usage. Almost all are very blunt instruments; they simply don't have the level of detail to allow a reader to understand the nuances associated with the use of particular words - you need something of the scale and content of the OED if you're going to even begin to get that. So the fact that a dictionary (or a thesaurus) equates two words does NOT mean that those words genuinely have identical meaning in all (or, indeed, in any) circumstances.

In this case, there's a casual tendency to use the two terms interchangeably, which is what the dictionary is documenting. Whereas anyone familiar with using the two in a technical context understands that their meanings encompass two related but different concepts (well illustrated by some of the examples given). Your dictionary of choice simply isn't up to the task of communicating the distinct concepts involved.

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