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science advancement
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, May 29 2013 @ 01:03 PM EDT
If this suit succeeds there will be a negative payoff for Oracle, developers all
over the world will desert Java in droves. There is already a proposal to do
that at my employer.

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Good new programming languages are HARD...
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, May 29 2013 @ 05:46 PM EDT
Basically, structured programming (as seen in PASCAL, 2nd edition K&R C, and
most existing languages pulling in structured programming) is the first big
advance. It shows up in 1970, and is widely implemented about 1985.

The second big advance was "objects", exemplified by Smalltalk, Java,
and the design of C++. Personally, I like Perl for its attempts to minimize
programming time.

We also have databases and dynamic HTML running around. Seriously, short of a
language that wrote itself, what would you put in a "new" language
that couldn't be shoehorned on top of an existing language?

Me, I could use proofs that different fragments of code were equivalent. But
that's a preprocessor upgrade. Javadoc? Another preprocessor upgrade.
Multithreading/multitasking? Doing that optimally is *very* architecture
dependent -- and I suppose when someone figures out how to do it well, with the
right abstraction, we will have some new keywords in C or C++ or Java.

Now, I could be wrong, but I am trying to figure out what new bit of world model
would really require a totally new programming language. I think it is a hard
question, and all the existing programming languages have a tendency to
implement whatever it is as new libraries or keywords.

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