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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, May 25 2013 @ 06:17 PM EDT |
So you're okay with the police stopping people to ask for
papers just to see
if they're in the country illegally?
Last time I looked, this pesky language
was still in the
US Constitution:
The right of the people to be
secure in their
persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable
searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no
Warrants
shall issue,
but upon probable cause...
I, for one, am pleased to know at
least one federal judge
thinks that looking like one of those people
is not
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| Authored by: jplatt39 on Saturday, May 25 2013 @ 07:07 PM EDT |
Look I am an old school New Englander who grew up in Southern New England when
that meant lots of Portuguese and Cape Verdean families who had been here since
Whaling days. Trying to tell them apart was my first lesson that race might be
more a cultural artifact than anything else -- of course there was mixing and in
fact some mixing of both with the WASPS. Now the families have been displaced
by Hispanics and Gentrification -- there isn't that much difference. And there
are white black and in-between immigrants all over. To name two prominent Latin
musicians, too, one of whom lives in France, Shakira is from Colombia. Munir
Hossn is Brazilian. Both come from families from Lebanon.
You can't tell who comes from where just by looking -- or even the name. And
you know what? You never could.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: PJ on Saturday, May 25 2013 @ 09:19 PM EDT |
| Ah, logic. But the judge said that logic
doesn't trump the US Constitution,
which
sheriffs are bound by oath to uphold, I
believe. Here is the judge's ruling [PDF], and if
you take time to read it, you'll see
that the judge said
that the specific way this sheriff operated violated
the
Constitutional rights of his targets because they violated
both the 4th and
the 14th Amendments, and not even
sheriffs are allowed to violate the law. And
the
US Constitution is inviolate. You can't pass local
laws or have local
customs that violate the US
Constitution. Sooner or later, a judge will stop
you,
because that is what judges do. [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, May 25 2013 @ 09:39 PM EDT |
>but realistically, how many whites or native Americans are going
to be illegal immigrants?
Until the mid-eighties, Ireland provided the most (both as a
percentage of the population, and raw numbers) illegal
immigrants to the United States.
I won't say which city in the United States has more illegal Irish
immigrants, than legal Irish and illegal immigrants from all of
South and Central America, combined.
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