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Does simulation discredit software=math=no patents?
Authored by: Wol on Saturday, May 11 2013 @ 04:51 AM EDT
You're missing "maths !- reality".

Your planetary simulation will work perfectly, every time.

Your planetary gear will fail suddenly, for unexpected reasons.

You get your patents on how you anticipate and prevent those unexpected reasons
and failures. Take my field, chemistry. An internal combustion engine works on
the basis of "petrol + oxygen => carbon dioxide + water + power".
Except that that equation doesn't happen in real life. The closer you can get
reality to approximate to theory, the better, and that's where you get
patentable inventions.

Cheers,
Wol

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maths !- physical
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, May 11 2013 @ 10:57 AM EDT

To add to "maths != reality", a simple:

    your software gear won't turn the crank that grinds your wheat
As much wheat as you could draw on the monitory from the virtual process - you can't consume it for physical nurishment! Not ever!

To simplify:

Physical planetary gear = not abstract

Describing it's operation = abstract - after all, you can describe it's operation with pencil and paper and words. Does that make authoring a few paragraphs explaining the planetary gear Patentable? Nope!!!

And as the Supremes say:

    Abstract concepts are not patentable subject matter!

RAS

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Does simulation discredit software=math=no patents?
Authored by: tknarr on Saturday, May 11 2013 @ 04:00 PM EDT

Your gear is a physical device. It can be patented. The description of it is math, and can't. Anyone can take the mathematical description of how a planetary gear works and make something with it. They just can't make your planetary gear, because while you don't have a patent on the description of it you do have a patent on the actual device.

The same thing applies to copyright and stories. I can copyright a particular story. I can't copyright the plotline of that story. Anyone else can come along and write a different story with the same basic plotline, but they can't copy my specific story.

These are fairly straightforward concepts that few people have a problem with.

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Does simulation discredit software=math=no patents?
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, May 12 2013 @ 07:51 PM EDT
When applied to the physical world, mathematics provides merely a model of what
is going on. Your planetary gear isn't working out how it should operate by
solving the matematical equations. It does what it does and the mathematics
helps us understand and design it. This not only applies to the simple maths
defining how the gear ratios interact, but the more complex matematics used to
calculate forces on the gearbox so it can be designed to operate without
self-destructing.

The difference with software is that it is all about the maths. You can put the
same planetary gearbox formulae into a computer and simulate the design, but you
are executing the model, not the real thing. If the model contains an error, the
simulation will reflect that error, but the real planetary gearbox won't.

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