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It's a big country, and there is more than one dream ... | 709 comments | Create New Account
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It's a big country, and there is more than one dream ...
Authored by: Wol on Saturday, May 11 2013 @ 03:59 PM EDT
I think the American Dream of living off other peoples' labour goes back long
before last century. One only has to look at the Robber Barons of the 19th
century ... the banks (Goldsmith?, Rockefeller?), Standard Oil, NCR, Edison, ...
the list goes on.

imho this goes back even the 18th century and the founding fathers ... I've said
enough before how "no taxation without representation" was a somewhat
manufactured and bogus excuse ...

The problem is, going right back to the founding of the colonies, let alone the
US itself, the philosophy of "might is right" has been a driving force
through pretty much all of Anglo-Saxon American history.

This is just more of the same ...

Cheers,
Wol

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It's a big country, and there is more than one dream ...
Authored by: jbb on Saturday, May 11 2013 @ 06:33 PM EDT
Unfortunately, the above dream [of Empire] is most definitely an aspect of the American dream, these days, and it seems to get a lot of support from the politicians, too.
The phrase the American Dream has a meaning. I already provided a link to that meaning which you chose to ignore. If a few Americans have a dream or goal of Empire that does not magical transform the meaning of the American Dream into its total opposite.

Your attempt to transform a phrase to mean the complete opposite of its widely accepted standard meaning is very destructive. It destroys our ability to communicate. Why on Earth are you doing propaganda work Imperialists would be willing to pay for?

Sure, some Americans dream of Empire but that doesn't make Empire part of the American Dream. Some Americans dream of mass-murder but that doesn't make mass-murder part of the American Dream.

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Our job is to remind ourselves that there are more contexts
than the one we’re in now — the one that we think is reality.
-- Alan Kay

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