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A serious question for Judge Rader | 709 comments | Create New Account
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A serious question for Judge Rader
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, May 10 2013 @ 08:53 PM EDT
But it is just algorithms. They are developed either by pencil and paper or on a
general purpose computer and then the software is written or cross compiled for
the actual hardware. If your system is designed to run at a certain rate, it
doesn't matter what the underlying CPU/architecture is as long as its fast
enough.

Sensors, servos, hydraulic actuators, all can be simulated arithmetically.
Different filters, delays, etc are use to simulate these components. Then when
the time comes you replace the simulation block with the actual sensors.

I have numerous texts and papers that go into detail the development process
for CAS, SAS and fly by wire systems and none of them are done by guesswork. You
start with an arithmetic model, simulate that model, test, then implement that
model in hardware.

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A serious answer
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, May 10 2013 @ 09:20 PM EDT
"But when you're talking about real-time systems, you're
almost always talking about a specific machine. It's the
computer, and the sensors, and the wing flaps. It's not just
an algorithm running on a general-purpose computer
somewhere."

And that specific, unique computer COLLECTION of HARDWARE may
be eligible for patent. The software that runs it? Nope.
It's simply math done at a very fast rate.

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Sorry....
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, May 11 2013 @ 03:13 AM EDT

In my humble opinion (which is different from the Supremes, quite different from the Federal Circuit, and vastly different from some Patent Lawyers):

    The machine you built that will be controlled by the software is patentable
    That single patent applies to the machine without the software - applying software, program 1 or program 2, does nothing to alter the patent
    The software itself is still abstract and therefore not patentable

RAS

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So let me get this straight
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, May 12 2013 @ 06:38 AM EDT
An algorithm/method that is described in a patent allows a human to carry out
the operation, without computer involvement. Somewhat lacking the requirement
for a computer in the first place, hence making the patent ineligible.

Yes it might take a long time to carry out but so what (the usual "real
time" argument for this seems to ignore the fact that as hardware has got
quicker this has made more operations available in the required time frame).

Real time in the computing world is "being able to respond before the next
output is required" - so if you have a system that is only changed once a
week you have 7 days to change the output. It would still be a 'real time
system' - just a very slow one :-)

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