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They are a long ways off...
Authored by: JamesK on Friday, April 19 2013 @ 11:57 AM EDT
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we could get there in say, 120,000 years.
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Around the time Apple vs Samsung wraps up? ;-)


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Fun with Fantasy
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, April 19 2013 @ 06:45 PM EDT

The following is based on various levels of technology in the "Star Trek Universe". As the subject says, it's fantasy so if you have different calculations, have fun :)

How long would it take the various generations of Star Trek to travel 1,200 light years in the technology available to them - this is at a constant rate of speed the entire time:

    Archer: warp 4.5, 84x light speed =
      14 years, 3 months, 1 week, 6 days, 27 minutes, 17 seconds
    Kirk: warp 9, 729x light speed =
      1 year, 7 months, 3 weeks, 1 day, 20 hours, 23 minutes, 13 seconds
    Picard: warp 9, 1,516.28x light speed =
      9 months, 2 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 22 minutes, 54 seconds
Wow - 9 months is still a long time relative to constant non-stop traveling for the distance. Guess we'll either have to rely on Q or search for something closer.

Someone else can have the fun handling the speed calculations for Voyager ;)

RAS

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Earthlike planets are common
Authored by: symbolset on Saturday, April 20 2013 @ 04:12 AM EDT

It is only just now that we can see them and these are the first found and they are far. But around every star there is a zone where water is a liquid and it has 1-3 planets in it, and if the planet is too large it has suitable rocky moons where Men could live. These planets and moons are universally terrestrial - made of rock and covered with water. The exceptions to this are so rare that they need not be considered - they involve things like binary stars orbiting each other where the planets should be, stars that pulse dangerously and such.

We don't know how to get to even the nearest stars yet without generation ships. We will need fusion to do that. I think we will figure it out. I don't expect to see the day. When we get there we will always find bodies that could theoretically sustain Men.

But then we get to chemistry. If Men today found the Earth coming from a different star and it was a world that had never known life, then its atmosphere would be toxic to us. It would take millions of years to alter that atmospheric balance and we were better off altering the Men. Life has conditioned the Earth's environment and made it suitable for men - and Men evolved to live in this conditioned environment. If we get to a lifeless planet around another star then it will not be so conditioned.

Personally I think that with the considerable mixing of material between the stars we will find life has set the stage for us on all the terrestrial planets we are likely to visit in the next ten thousand years. But I could be wrong. Regardless at this point the explorers would be prepared to live in their craft indefinitely - a truly spacebound race.

But this is talk about exploring the vast unknown lands far away when we haven't even explored our own basement and attic yet. Men will live on the bottom of the sea, on the Moon and Mars, some asteroids and in open space before we venture to the stars. Except for speculative fiction we need not worry yet about the fate of these explorers.

Little steps.

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