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Judge Alsup's final jury instructions were much simpler | 265 comments | Create New Account
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The first Apple v. Samsung trial - Velvin Hogan etc.
Authored by: PJ on Saturday, April 13 2013 @ 06:09 PM EDT
Maybe you should build your own blog? Then you could just
link to it if you wish to. Long, long comments
do annoy some people here, and it would be thoughtful
to either break them up into shorter comments or
set up your own blog.

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  • Posting - Authored by: macliam on Saturday, April 13 2013 @ 08:40 PM EDT
    • Posting - Authored by: PJ on Saturday, April 13 2013 @ 11:02 PM EDT
Judge Alsup's final jury instructions were much simpler
Authored by: macliam on Sunday, April 14 2013 @ 05:40 AM EDT

The Groklaw article here reproduces Judge William H. Alsup's Patent Infringement Instructions in the case Oracle v. Google. I note that the relevant instructions (nos. 8 to 17) are far simpler than those that Judge Lucy Koh issued in Apple v. Samsung regarding the determination of whether utility patents are infringed.

In particular some of Judge Koh's instructions seem to contain slabs of undigested case law relevant to patent law in general, but maybe not particularly relevant to the patents asserted in Apple v. Samsung. It leaves me wondering if that material was relevant to the case before her, or did she simply provide in those instructions chunks of boilerplate designed for inclusion in patent cases, written for previous cases before her, or that are in standard use in her district.

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Samsung's '460 patent and the Doctrine of Equivalents
Authored by: macliam on Sunday, April 14 2013 @ 10:41 AM EDT

I had another Aha moment today. I was wondering why would Judge Koh include a jury instruction (instruction 27) on infringement of utility patents under the “doctrine of equivalents”. Then I recollected the claim of Samsung's '460 patent. I won't go into details, to avoid unnecessary ‘pollution’, but the method involves “the use of scroll keys”. My understanding is that Apple's iPhones and iPads don't have mechanical keyboards, and therefore presumably don't have scroll keys. Therefore it is presumably hard to argue ‘literal infringement’ of the '460 patent under the terms of Judge Koh's jury instruction 26 by the use of a device without a keyboard! Therefore, to establish infringement, one would argue that the appropriate gestures on the touch screen were interchangeable with the use of the scroll keys in the method claimed in the '460 patent, and thus the device would infringe under the “doctrine of equivalents’.

Searching for some supporting evidence, I found the following sentence on page 29 of SAMSUNG NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION FOR JUDGMENT AS A MATTER OF LAW, NEW TRIAL AND/OR REMITTITUR PURSUANT TO FEDERAL RULES OF CIVIL PROCEDURE 50 AND 59 (on Groklaw):

Second, Apple argued that swiping between photos and ‘ use of scroll keys’ are not equivalent, RT 3297:1-3; 3301:3-4, yet Apple's own user guides equate swiping and use of scroll keys on Apple's devices and this argument only applies to some but not all accused products. RT 2399:9-2400:l6; DX 533.119.

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