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Patent privateering is similar to murder by proxy | 64 comments | Create New Account
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Corrections Thread
Authored by: hardmath on Tuesday, April 16 2013 @ 12:00 PM EDT
You know the drril -> drill.


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Recursion is the opprobrium of the mathists.

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Google, Red Hat, et al. Ask FTC & DOJ to Investigate Antitrust Implications of Patent Outsourcing to Trolls ~pj
Authored by: joef on Tuesday, April 16 2013 @ 12:00 PM EDT
About time!

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Newspicks Thread
Authored by: hardmath on Tuesday, April 16 2013 @ 12:02 PM EDT
Please use HTML mode and post a link to the referenced
article if starting a new subthread here (makes it easy for
readers to look up the article once the Newspicks column
starts a-scrolling).

Thanks!


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Recursion is the opprobrium of the mathists.

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Off-topic Thread
Authored by: hardmath on Tuesday, April 16 2013 @ 12:05 PM EDT
You will not even think about On Topics... not while browsing
this!

Seriously, unless you want to be investigated for possible
anti-thread trust issues...

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Recursion is the opprobrium of the mathists.

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Comes Transcripts
Authored by: hardmath on Tuesday, April 16 2013 @ 12:09 PM EDT

If you have a half-hour to spare, Transcribe!

Ideally post the HTML here in Plain Old Text mode, or use the email to PJ link if that's more convenient.

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Recursion is the opprobrium of the mathists.

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Intellectual Vulture
Authored by: DannyB on Tuesday, April 16 2013 @ 12:26 PM EDT
Will Intellectual Vulture get to keep it's past ill gotten gain?

Probably.

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Not a new trick
Authored by: DCFusor on Tuesday, April 16 2013 @ 03:32 PM EDT
This kind of thing has been going on for awhile. The benefit to the parent of
the outsourcing is obvious - it can suck profit if the subsidiary wins, but is
insulated from loss if it doesn't.

A few years back, this trick was played for a nat gas pipeline that wanted to be
run through my country, destroying farms in the same families since the American
Revolution. The energy company in question created a holding company to manage
the pipe (after building) and gave it zero financial resources, though it was to
take all liability in the event of an accident, which seemed likely given that
they didn't exactly have a good safety plan.

We managed to find this out and point it out to FERC (fed regulatory outfit) and
the mainstream media - they were planning to leave us out swinging in the wind
before they even built the thing. This aided us no end in getting the project
stopped, as it was obvious on the face of it what was going on.

We formed our own little analog of groklaw (using your example) to crowdsource
and find out all this info, and it worked! And they almost quoted that saying
"we'd have gotten away with this if not for you pesky kids".

Keep up the good work people - it does influence events and makes change for the
better in other fields as well. Your example helped us...

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Why guess, when you can know? Measure it!

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Patent privateering is similar to murder by proxy
Authored by: globularity on Tuesday, April 16 2013 @ 09:21 PM EDT
Outsourcing patent based extortion is similar to outsourcing murder, the law
developed tools to handle that long ago. Hit the decision maker as well as the
proxy.
Any company hit by patent lawsuit by proxy should hit the company who supplied
the proxy it's weapons. Destroy the economics of such schemes and they will
die.
It makes no difference if the company who supplied the proxy its patents has a
part in the instant scam they only need to know why they are being sued.

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Correct the asymmetry
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, April 17 2013 @ 11:30 AM EDT
Perhaps Google et al. should set up their own PVE - Patent Victimisation
Entities, shell companies which will inherit all their patents and grant
perpetual licenses to practise those patents to Google. Any PAE attacking Google
will be invited to sue the PVE which granted Google the license.

Then, instead of a PAE demanding an extortionate amount of the profit they
decided Google made from a patent infringement, they can sue for the pot plants
and office furniture that comprise the PVE's total assets.

Every patent can have its own PVE! Hurrah for the American patent system!

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Google, Red Hat, et al. Ask FTC & DOJ to Investigate Antitrust Implications of Patent Outsourcing to Trolls ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 18 2013 @ 04:24 PM EDT
How is patent outsourcing to a troll not Champerty and
Maintenance?

They're meddling with a third party to encourage a lawsuit
(maintenance) with the intent of getting gains from the
proceeds of the suit (champerty).

And that's when the trolls are not simply engaging in
vexatious litigation (barratry).

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