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Conflation - and it's begining to look deliberate
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, April 11 2013 @ 10:46 AM EDT

You also leave out the fact that when she said:

There is no "across machines" in the definition
... that she clearly provided link to this definition.

You are then conflating her further statements of her own opinions on the topic as a whole as part of the definition response.

So, let's put everything in one tidy place. The quote P.J. had an issue with is:

"Software is all about the implementation of a function across machines."
I am a software developer of 18 years. I also have similar issues with P.J. to that statement. Especially in light of the fact that a number of software patents have been issued which do not extend across machines. You state:
PJ assumes that the author is saying that software is machines
I'm afraid that is your error. You are assuming what her assumptions are. Let me clarify how I read what she wrote that you appear to find issue with. Her full authoring surrounding where you claim to have issue is:
There is no "across machines" in the definition. No wonder the USPTO gets things wrong all the time, if patent lawyers tell them things like this. Software is instructions telling a computer what to do, algorithms and data.* There is no machine in there. There could be "across machines" functionality, I suppose, in a sense if I use an application to upload something to your server, for example, but that's not the basic definition of software.
So... how did I understand it:
There is no "across machines" in the definition.
This is refering to the statement itself that she had issue with.
No wonder the USPTO gets things wrong all the time, if patent lawyers tell them things like this.
This is clearly her own opinion on why she thinks the patent lawyers are erring when they communicate with the USPTO. She is already deviating in communication from the definition provided and her definition in response. In other words, the context is now expanding. It has expanded to what Patent Lawyers tell the USPTO.
Software is instructions telling a computer what to do, algorithms and data.*
This is a simpler clarification of the definition of software.
There is no machine in there.
This is a statement responding to something else Patent Lawyers have been saying. In other words, it moved from the context of the definition into the context of what Patent Lawyers argue with regards software.

Admittedly, this is only understood if one has been following Groklaw for some time and have paid attention to what some Patent Lawyers that post on Groklaw have been trying to argue.

Now here's the magic question:

    Can you admit that you made an assumption about what you believed "P.J. was assuming"?
If so, then it's easy to wipe the slate clean and realize this whole thread was just one big mis-understanding. Us long-timers have been responding to your statements in one context because our own assumptions (which would have been incorrect) of your response was based on the understanding I outlined above. Which in turn appears to have been based on your misunderstanding of what you viewed as P.J.'s assumptions in the very enclosed finite context of the definition while P.J. had already spoken to greater context beyond the definition.

RAS

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