decoration decoration
Stories

GROKLAW
When you want to know more...
decoration
For layout only
Home
Archives
Site Map
Search
About Groklaw
Awards
Legal Research
Timelines
ApplevSamsung
ApplevSamsung p.2
ArchiveExplorer
Autozone
Bilski
Cases
Cast: Lawyers
Comes v. MS
Contracts/Documents
Courts
DRM
Gordon v MS
GPL
Grokdoc
HTML How To
IPI v RH
IV v. Google
Legal Docs
Lodsys
MS Litigations
MSvB&N
News Picks
Novell v. MS
Novell-MS Deal
ODF/OOXML
OOXML Appeals
OraclevGoogle
Patents
ProjectMonterey
Psystar
Quote Database
Red Hat v SCO
Salus Book
SCEA v Hotz
SCO Appeals
SCO Bankruptcy
SCO Financials
SCO Overview
SCO v IBM
SCO v Novell
SCO:Soup2Nuts
SCOsource
Sean Daly
Software Patents
Switch to Linux
Transcripts
Unix Books

Gear

Groklaw Gear

Click here to send an email to the editor of this weblog.


You won't find me on Facebook


Donate

Donate Paypal


No Legal Advice

The information on Groklaw is not intended to constitute legal advice. While Mark is a lawyer and he has asked other lawyers and law students to contribute articles, all of these articles are offered to help educate, not to provide specific legal advice. They are not your lawyers.

Here's Groklaw's comments policy.


What's New

STORIES
No new stories

COMMENTS last 48 hrs
No new comments


Sponsors

Hosting:
hosted by ibiblio

On servers donated to ibiblio by AMD.

Webmaster
Apples and oranges | 348 comments | Create New Account
Comments belong to whoever posts them. Please notify us of inappropriate comments.
You forget the users.
Authored by: jesse on Tuesday, April 09 2013 @ 01:38 PM EDT
There are a ton of users that "pay" for it by developing improvements
and sending that back.

You can't do that with any other phone system. Especially not those belonging to
MS.

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

Evidence please
Authored by: PJ on Tuesday, April 09 2013 @ 02:31 PM EDT
Microsoft gives away IE for free. Is that
predatory?

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

Further Evidence Please!
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 09 2013 @ 02:47 PM EDT

Last I heard, MS was paying people to use Bing.

I don't know how you're using Bing that's different from my use. I can access Bing off my Linux box through a non-MS browser giving full proper credentials for what I'm using without being prompted for a subscription. Is Microsoft using predatory pricing with Bing?

Or did you mean the Android OS was no-cost and therefore predatory pricing?

If Android - with the Apache licensing - is predatory costing, then so is Apache itself which anyone can download the source code of for free and use. And Linux, and BSD protected code. However - The Courts have already made clear that's not a practice of predatory pricing from the definitions of Anti-competition.

You say Microsoft can't build a business against such software. Please provide evidence of what is legally preventing Microsoft from downloading Android (or Linux), making their own version (by simply compiling it) and releasing it for free.

RAS

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

Apples and oranges
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 09 2013 @ 03:48 PM EDT
Not sure Android can even meet the definition of predatory pricing... which is
using less-than-cost pricing to corner market share or drive out a competitor.

What is the market? Android isn't a phone, its an OS. So in the phone market,
they aren't predatory, in fact, they encourage the competition to use it.

The OS market? Apple doesn't allow others to use IOS, so nothing there
(probably why Apple didn't sign onto this charade...). Microsoft sells Windows,
but according to reports, no one likes it and the complaints aren't about price.
Not to mention numerous industry analysts who have called on microsoft to open
up Windows and set it free so it could grow. M$ has not wanted anything to do
with that. That isn't about "the market", its about Microsoft's desire
to own and control that market.

Android provides an environment. Competition is free to play in that
environment, fork it, build it, whatever. Hardly predatory, and very
pro-consumer.

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

Groklaw © Copyright 2003-2013 Pamela Jones.
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners.
Comments are owned by the individual posters.

PJ's articles are licensed under a Creative Commons License. ( Details )