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| Authored by: Tkilgore on Monday, March 25 2013 @ 12:59 PM EDT |
> As I understand it, Finnish and Estonian (and
Hungarian-Magyar), form a language group unlike anything else
(can anybody elaborate in a reply?),
Indeed, that is the "official" version. But things like the history
and origins of a language are fraught with politics. I do not know much
Hungarian, but my wife is a native speaker. She also spent a couple of weeks in
Finland years ago, on a tour by the university choir. Naturally, both the people
in the choir and their Finnish hosts were very curious about the alleged
connection of the two languages, and they spent a lot of time looking for
similarities -- and came up with very little. Her impression was that the
connections between Hungarian and Finnish are tenuous and far-fetched.
Her tentative opinion, and mine, is that Hungarian seems to be an amalgam of
Iranian and Turkic language sources, which took place so long ago that there do
not seem to be any cracks at the joints. But it is certain that a lot of very
old words in Hungarian come either from Iranian or Turkic sources. Other
circumstantial evidence for this theory may be seen in where the Hun and Magyar
people seem to have come from -- the steppe region north of the Caucasus. Also,
one may consider that the ancient Scythian and later but still ancient Sarmatian
populations of this area were speaking Iranic languages. Nevertheless, this
alternative theory is definitely not the official theory, and it is clearly
politically incorrect to point to such possible origins.
Perhaps it is not exactly evidence, but sometimes in old folk tales and legends
there is a grain of truth. In this case, I refer to the old legend of the two
brothers Hunnor and Magyar. They were out hunting one day in a large party. Each
of them had 50 retainers. In the forest, they stumbled upon a group of women:
two Ossete princesses, and each one of the two had 50 ladies in waiting. Hunnor
married one of the two princesses. Magyar married the other. Their respective 50
retainers married the respective 50 ladies in waiting. And from these origins,
so the story goes, arose the Hun and the Magyar people. The ancient Ossetes are
the present-day Abkhaz, and their language belongs to the Iranian branch of
languages.
The above is, of course, just a very ancient folk tale. No more than that and
also no less. Modern science, as we know, can do ever so much better and is
completely objective.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 25 2013 @ 04:33 PM EDT |
Basque is also one of the Finno-Ugric language group.
I have no idea why.
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| Authored by: cjk fossman on Monday, March 25 2013 @ 09:10 PM EDT |
by a very good friend who was, at the time, majoring in
Slavic Linguistics at Ohio State.
We owe the connection between the two languages to Attila the
Hun, as Turkey and Finland represent the two ends of his
sweep across Europe.
That's what they were teaching at OSU in the early 1960s,
anyway.
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| Authored by: PJ on Monday, March 25 2013 @ 09:51 PM EDT |
From the standpoint of money, the US matters
more. It's not that it doesn't matter at all,
obviously, but if you want an injunction, you
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