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| Authored by: nematoad on Sunday, March 24 2013 @ 01:19 PM EDT |
"It is pretty trivial to take out the extra 'lenses' if you want to"
Seems to be missing the point that RMS is making. You should not have mess
about like this when you use free software. As RMS says it's not just free as in
beer but as in free speech.
OK, it's up to Canonical to put this sort of thing into their distro but it is
also the users' choice not to have to put up with this sort of control freakery.
Asking that FLISOL refrain from giving copies of Ubuntu is, in my opinion, the
right thing to do, and no amount of good that Canonical has done in the past
should mitigate what is a pretty nasty trick to play on people who may be new to
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| Authored by: SilverWave on Sunday, March 24 2013 @ 01:56 PM EDT |
No weird hard to use/configure gui,
No odd "lens",
Just a nice up to date desktop without the drama.
Keep Calm and Install Xubuntu
LOL
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RMS: The 4 Freedoms
0 run the program for any purpose
1 study the source code and change it
2 make copies and distribute them
3 publish modified versions
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| Authored by: rnturn on Sunday, March 24 2013 @ 03:37 PM EDT |
``I am also an RMS fan although he does tend to shoot from the
hip and does not shy away from making enemies (look at the showdown between him
and Theo De Raadt
over Linux and BSD-Unix).''
I'm a fan of
Stallman's work as well but I don't think I'd put more than half of the blame on
him for the tiffs that have arisen between him and De Raadt. He (Theo, that is)
has made more than than his share of inflammatory comments in the past. The two
certainly seem to have, um, "highly developed" egos. [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: BJ on Sunday, March 24 2013 @ 03:56 PM EDT |
A fallacy argument.
Oft repeated though, that's true.
bjd
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| Authored by: BJ on Sunday, March 24 2013 @ 04:01 PM EDT |
Sounds nice, prob. a repeated cliche too.
Actually I think you would owe him an apology
for this remark, if it weren't for the fact that
you totally seem unable to grasp the man, where
he comes from, and where we're all headed -- with
your assistance if you can or can't help it (I think
the latter) it, with his opposition as long as he
stands.
bjd
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, March 24 2013 @ 05:59 PM EDT |
That's your argument in defence of Ubuntu?
Canonical was useful. Past tense. But open source software
is a meritocracy, the hysteresis of goodwill is strictly
limited. And that's as it should be.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, March 24 2013 @ 07:33 PM EDT |
Promoting a specific operating system such as Ubuntu - which is all Ubuntu has
done - and making it popular is of no value to the free software movement if
they are not promoting freedom along with it.
Free Software is a political movement, 'open source' specifically rejects the
political nature and is merely a marketing term.
Ubuntu popularising itself isn't an excuse for adding spyware.
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| Authored by: be2weenthelines on Monday, March 25 2013 @ 10:44 AM EDT |
| Its pretty hard to abuse someone's trust unless you gain it first. [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 25 2013 @ 09:30 PM EDT |
Very little of Ubuntu anymore is compatable with other Linux distros. They've
consistently broken things to separate themselves from the mainstream Linux
community. Their defaults apps and settings are abysmal to anyone with a 'nix
background, and the stability that is a Linux hallmark is woefully absent.
Popularising 'broken' isn't good for anyone. Ubuntu has done a lot to polarize
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