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A more pointed fact and question
Authored by: bprice on Saturday, March 30 2013 @ 01:03 AM EDT
Several veterinary reports about in Europe and the US. The porblem is disentangling the good stuff from the bad.
That's why random rumours and incomplete written matter of unknown provenance ("Several veterinary reports about") do not qualify as evidence.
I personally know an individual whose blood pressure was so bad the medical profession had given up and the prognosis was dire (basically invalided for the remaining expected short lifespan). After a course of acupuncture, taken on the basis of nothing to lose, blood pressure was normal and the person could return to employment.
This is how the placebo acquires a patina of respectability: one anecdote which, if correct and complete, hints at a cure. The "if" part is harder than it might seem, at first.

Here's my anecdote, a bit closer than yours. My wife and I were called into the doctor's private space, where he told us about the tumour he had found in her gut. She had been, before retirement, a RN, so she was accustomed to listening closely and accurately to doctors — her patients relied on it. However, she heard the word 'tumour' and zoned out, completely forgetting her training and experience. The news was personal, rather than concerning someone else: her mind went, immediately, away from reality and into fear. The tumour was safely excised, BTW.

Dr House is wont to utter "Patients lie!" at appropriate occasions in his dramas. The truth seems to be that patients don't (or maybe cannot) understand what the doctor is telling them, when it seems like really bad news.

Your friend's anecdote might be valid, but you and we don't have the information to evaluate his reports.

To quote 'the truth is out there' but it needs unbiased research and like the now discredited 'Clovis First' that seems to be difficult for some (certainly for vested interests).
That's why my [citation needed] challenge was for unbiased, credible research reports supporting your assertion. So far as I know, 'the truth [that] is out there' shows that neither acupuncture nor homœopathy has any effect distinguishable from null treatment. (One must keep in mind that (a) initial published studies tend to have a high rate of false positives that gets corrected by the follow-up trials, and (b) in any medical trials, the accepted error rate is 5% — one out of twenty trials is probably a false positive. That's why multiple, independent trials are an absolute necessary.)

One must always be wary of isolated, unpublished reports that are "about", especially when they are really reports of reports of reports, rather than the actual, peer-reviewed data and methodology (which are hard to read and to understand, for the layman), published in journals whose vested interest is a reputation for accuracy rather than page charges.

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--Bill. NAL: question the answers, especially mine.

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