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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 18 2013 @ 07:57 AM EDT
You know, I'm reminded of a study here.

I think it was by a guy called Milgram.

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Authored by: Kilz on Monday, March 18 2013 @ 08:33 AM EDT
In my country the authorities have recently changed the law so that home owners who wish to build their own home must get the work certified by a qualified builder. Now I know there's a lot more physical labor and public safety involved in building a house than in a desktop OS, but having done both I suggest the order of complexity is comparable, and is sufficient to deter some would-be builders. To have to build your system is regarded as somewhat Stallmanish to the majority of folks who do not read Groklaw. However are those who cannot or will not install additional plugins when required further down the path of indolence, or choosing no?
You are trying to make a point by a false premise that the installation of software is just to hard for the user. Possibly another false premise is that its only available to a specific distro. The software that is available to ALL known linux distros. Not just some. Not just the one I use. But ALL. Its a choice to install it. If you choose a distro that cant install software, well thats a problem. But its not the fault of the person posting the media.
If you will not install a piece of open source software that is capable of viewing the media and you are complaining it will not run you have lost the point that it will not run. You can make a point that it will not run because I have not installed the viewer that is needed by your chosen OS.
Let's look again at PJ's comment" There is now [a video on this page] for those with the stomach for to watch the entire hearing and who have the ability to view something in [.wvx format], which doesn't include me.

Perhaps PJ has chosen not have plugins which view .wvx. Note that .wmv is the default video container format on the most widely used desktop OS, and a player is provided by the OS vendor. wvx appears to be a stream playlist wrapper which is unwrapped server-side to provide the content in whatever format. Note also that the inability of W3C to agree on a codec or format for html5 video leaves the field wide open for content providers to use anything they choose. For the record VLC is reporting the video as Windows Media Video 9 (WMV3) English 320x240 29.97 Planar 4:2:0 yuv Windows Media Audio 2 (WMA2) English stereo 32000Hz 16bits/sample
If you will not install software, open source software, to view something. You cant complain it wont run. You are using a false premise to prove a point that the media isn't available to all. The only point you can make is that the software isn't viable by people who haven't installed the necessary viewer for their chosen OS.
Refer also to the thread under the previous story

The DMCA conference streaming seems to use Silverlight
Here is the proof that the point you are making is that the media is not viable to all. Silverlight is not available to Linux users. Moonlight is, but it doens't do a good job and isn't available for all distros. In this case you can prove that the media isnt available to all, its a good point. No one is saying the point isnt valid, just how we prove it to be valid. You cant do that if your method of showing its valid is easily proven false.
Whats happened in the article we are posting under isn't the same. You are comparing pears and apples.
1. The software to view the file is available to all Linux distros.
2. Said software plays the media.

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Authored by: PJ on Monday, March 18 2013 @ 04:39 PM EDT
Perhaps PJ has chosen not have plugins which view .wvx.

Exactly correct. And I should not have to.

PS Most people in the world now use Android or Mac OSX, by the way. The desktop is practically over, and so is Microsoft. So to continue to use a format that most people don't use, now that mobile is in many cases the primary way some use the Internet, is old fashioned thinking.

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