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Supreme Court Thwarts Challenge to Warrantless Surveillance
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, February 26 2013 @ 03:02 PM EST
So in order for the government to get around the constitution and engage in
prohibited activities, they just have to do it all secretly!

--

Bondfire

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    Joseph Heller, What Hast Thou Wrought?
    Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, February 26 2013 @ 03:10 PM EST
    > The 5-4 decision (.pdf) by Justice Samuel Alito was a clear victory...

    Even Wired is in on the conspiracy. 5-4 is a split decision in my book,
    and a tightly split one at that, no way a clear victory.

    Tor-like phone anonomisers have been around for a long time.
    This will produce a brief flurry in their popularity before they
    are declared illegal.

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    Supreme Court Thwarts Challenge to Warrantless Surveillance
    Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, February 26 2013 @ 04:09 PM EST
    Haw can anyone say it is being done secretly except those
    doing it? And if they
    say they are, then it is no longer
    secret. The Supreme Court is definitely in
    on it for sure
    and is just as corrupt as the rest of the government as far
    as I
    can tell by their actions of late.

    Lets see ...

    1) Significant transfers of
    wealth and property from the
    citizens to the wealthy by the government.

    2)
    Significant losses of personal privacy.

    3) The governent is openly spying on
    its citizens without
    any cause whatsoever.

    4) The government has been creating
    vague laws that allow
    anyone to be persecuted/prosecuted for any activity
    that
    some government official doesn't like.

    5) Significant increases in
    governmental intrusion into
    personal and private activites.

    6) Flagrant
    disregard for the law by goverment officials
    in all branches of goverment, at
    all levels, with no
    meaningful punishment for wrong doing.

    7) Serious campaign
    to disarm the American citizens.

    Sounds vaguely familiar, like something out of
    the history
    books. I do not believe it worked out too well.

    [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

    It's all according to the book.
    Authored by: artp on Tuesday, February 26 2013 @ 07:13 PM EST
    Unfortunately, that book is "Catch-22" by Joseph Heller.

    ---
    Userfriendly on WGA server outage:
    When you're chained to an oar you don't think you should go down when the galley
    sinks ?

    [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

    not thwarting, but kicking the can down the road... and maybe creating a time bomb
    Authored by: mcinsand on Wednesday, February 27 2013 @ 12:17 PM EST
    I hope that I would be too ethical to become connected with warrantless
    wiretaps, but, if I was, then this would make me nervous. For one thing, the
    SCOTUS has just highlighted that currently-secret information as a target. For
    another, I'm reading this as a sign of the SCOTUS having a potential interest in
    reviewing the issue, if the evidence is produced.

    I am still upset over the issue of warrantless surveillance, particularly since
    it gives the groups that it targets an ironic victory. Many of those sought out
    with the surveillance are mainly upset with us for our open way of life. By
    suspending the need to go through the courts to get a warrant, a good chunk of
    what makes our way of life what it is disappears.

    Again, though, I would be nervous if I were involved, especially with what the
    SCOTUS has said. If such evidence surfaces, what happens if the court rules
    against the practice? Can the people involved really say that they were 'just
    following orders?' Wikileaks has shown a dramatic ability to bring secrets into
    the open.

    Regards,
    mc

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