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The Python Foundation Asks For Help Re PYTHON Trademark in EU ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, February 15 2013 @ 09:14 AM EST
The University of Oslo uses python as the programing language for some of it's courses. E.g. MAT-INF1100

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The Python Foundation Asks For Help Re PYTHON Trademark in EU ~pj
Authored by: PJ on Friday, February 15 2013 @ 09:40 AM EST
Here's Guido's paper from 1993, "Python for Unix/C Programmers". BibTeX:
@INPROCEEDINGS{An93pythonfor,
author = {Ss Um An and Guido Van Rossum},
title = {Python for Unix/C Programmers Copyright 1993
Guido van Rossum 1},
booktitle = {Proc. of the NLUUG najaarsconferentie. Dutch UNIX users group},
year = {1993}
So it was a conference. The abstract:
Python is an interpreted, object-oriented language suitable for many purposes. It has a clear, intuitive syntax, powerful high-level data structures, and a flexible dynamic type system. Python can be used interactively, in stand-alone scripts, for large programs, or as an extension language for existing applications. The language runs on UNIX, Macintosh, and DOS machines. Source and documentation are available by anonymous ftp. Python is easily extensible through modules written in C or C++, and can also be embedded in applications as a library. Existing extensions provide access to most standard UNIX library functions and system calls (including processes management, socket and ioctl operations), as well as to large packages like X11/Motif. There are also a number of system-specific extensions, e.g. to interface to the Sun and SGI audio hardware. A large library of standard modules written in Python also exists....

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The Python Foundation Asks For Help Re PYTHON Trademark in EU ~pj
Authored by: Ian Al on Friday, February 15 2013 @ 11:31 AM EST
The first edition of O'Reilly's 'Learning Python' was published in late 1998 and
the copyright notice is 1999.

The flyleaf says that 'Learning Python, the image of a wood rat, and related
trade dress are trademarks of O'Reilly Media, Inc.'

As well as French and German offices, an English office is listed in the flyleaf
at Farnborough.

O'Reilly Media are still there at,

Gostrey House
Union Road
Farnham, Surrey, GU9 7PT
UK

It is my understanding that, as the UK and EU are signatory to the Berne
Convention, the copyright (and possibly the trade dress and trade marks) applies
throughout the EU and specifically in the UK.

---
Regards
Ian Al
Software Patents: It's the disclosed functions in the patent, stupid!

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The Python Foundation Asks For Help Re PYTHON Trademark in EU ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, February 15 2013 @ 01:04 PM EST
I have found the following books on the companies bibliographic database

----------------------------------------------------------

Title: Python Library Reference: February 19, 1999, Release 1.5.2
Main Contributor: Guido Van Rossum
Imprint: iUniverse
Format: Paperback / softback
Distributor:

ISBN13: 9781583483732
Date Published: 1 Dec 1995
Price: USD 29.95
Availability: Out of print

-------------------------------------------------------
Title: Python Tutorial: February 19, 1999, Release 1.5.2
Main Contributor: Guido Van Rossum
Imprint: iUniverse
Format: Paperback / softback
Distributor:

ISBN13: 9781583483756
Date Published: 1 Dec 1995
Price: USD 12.95
Availability: Out of print

----------------------------------------------------------

Title: Internet Programming with Python
Main Contributor: Aaron Watters
Imprint: Hungry Minds Inc,U.S.
Format: Mixed media product
Distributor: TBS The Book Service Ltd
UK Market Rights For sale with non-exclusive rights

ISBN13: 9781558514843
Date Published: 30 Sep 1996
Price: £ 31.99
Availability: Not available (reason unspecified)

----------------------------------------------------------

Title: Programming Python: Object-oriented Scripting
Main Contributor: Mark Lutz
Imprint: O'Reilly Media, Inc, USA
Format: Mixed media product
Distributor: John Wiley & Sons Ltd
UK Market Rights For sale with exclusive rights

ISBN13: 9781565921979
Date Published: 1 Oct 1996
Price: £ 31.95
Availability: Not available (reason unspecified)

-----------------------------------------------------------

Title: Python Programming with Java Class Libraries: A Tutorial for Building Web
and Enterprise Applications with Jython: v. 1
Main Contributor: Richard Hightower
Imprint: Addison-Wesley Educational Publishers Inc
Format: Paperback
Distributor: Pearson Education Ltd
UK Market Rights For sale with exclusive rights

ISBN13: 9780201616163
Date Published: 29 Oct 1996
Price: £ 31.99
Availability: To order

---------------------------------------------------------

You can also try searching worldcat - Library catalogue
http://www.worldcat.org/


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What is the problem?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, February 15 2013 @ 02:25 PM EST
The Python foundation is not in the business of providing ANY of the services
that PYTHON is trying to register a trademark for. You'll very often find the
same name trademarked in different classes .. because, simply, there are far
more businesses than there are unique names.

Allowing you to register a trademark for a particular set if use classes is the
way the system allows for the disparity of numbers.

WHY is python.org complaining? the applicatn does not appear to be claiming
rights that would affect python.org, unless of course, they are thinking of
leaving language development and getting into hosting and shared servers?

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Costs will be awarded
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, February 15 2013 @ 07:52 PM EST
If you pursue a trademark and it ends up in court ... and you lose, you end up
paying costs.

This company can probably get it on servers, web hosting etc, but will fail on
software, lose the argument and end up paying Python.orgs costs .. they shoudl
drop it.

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1991 reference: Rob MacLachlan / CMU-CS-91-108 / DARPA
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, February 18 2013 @ 05:01 AM EST
source:
http://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub//tex/bib/python.html


PDF link to the revised july 1992 edition:
(5,7Mb - SCANNED DOCUMENT!)
http://repository.cmu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3083&context=compsci

quote:
The largest single part of this document describes the Python compiler and the
programming styles and techniques that the compiler encourages.
/quote

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