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Authored by: squib on Saturday, February 16 2013 @ 09:41 AM EST
Should not a farmer be able to sue Monsanto for infecting his/her field with tainted soy beans?

Under the Polluter pays principle they should but they have a very powerful lobby to sweet talk politicians into accepting that in Monsanto's case, black is really white.

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Monsanto wants to recreate agriculture in its own image
Authored by: artp on Saturday, February 16 2013 @ 12:42 PM EST
Disclaimer: I used to work for Fisher Controls, which was then owned by Monsanto. Monsanto guts every company they buy, to make money to pay the purchase price.This is one of the many drawbacks of mergers and acquisitions. The economy loses on every one. One last word(s) before I comment on the current article: Love Canal.

With his mere 300 acres of soybeans, corn and wheat, Vernon Hugh Bowman said, “I’m not even big enough to be called a farmer.”

When I was a kid, 300 acres was more than the average farm size. Now my 200 acres of pasture (out of a 280 acre farm) is rented to a farmer who owns 2000 and rents another 1500. That used to be a dozen farmers and their families, trading at retail stores in small towns across the country. And my renter is smaller than three other corporate farmers who are my immediate neighbors.

Such a ruling would “devastate innovation in biotechnology,” the company wrote in its brief. “Investors are unlikely to make such investments if they cannot prevent purchasers of living organisms containing their invention from using them to produce unlimited copies.”

Monsanto has made the mistake of investing is an area where there are no controls on replication. Sounds like the **AAs, doesn't it? Now they want the government to fix their stupid mistake.

Soybeans breed true, for the most part. There are hybrids, also, but it isn't necessary. Corn is a "promiscuous pollinator", but is almost 100% hybrid, meaning that it doesn't breed true. You will never see a lawsuit like this involving corn. If you replant corn kernels, you will get a field of sickly-looking, stunted stalks with small ears. Rapeseed (canola) is like soybeans. It breeds true from seed and is not hybridized. All three are almost entirely GM crops.

Mr. Bowman said that for his main soybean crop, he honored Monsanto’s agreement, buying new seeds each year containing the Roundup Ready gene, which makes the plants immune to the herbicide Roundup. That technology is hugely popular, used in more than 90 percent of the nation’s soybeans, because it allows farmers to spray fields to kill weeds without hurting the crop.

First, the soybeans from the elevator aren't low quality from a feed standpoint - they are low quality for replanting. Their germination rates are lower than certified seed. They aren't as uniform.

But look at the last statement. Monsanto makes Roundup. Monsanto makes Roundup-ready seed, used in 90% of the crop. Why isn't this an antitrust case? Antitrust enforcement has been gutted - Republican and Democrat - since 1980. The AT&T case finished, and the Microsoft case happened. But after that - basically nothing.

Monsanto says that a victory for Mr. Bowman would allow farmers to essentially save seeds from one year’s crop to plant the next year, eviscerating patent protection.

In other words, Monsanto wants the government to continue to radically change the nature and structure (like SSO?) of the agricultural industry.

To put this in perspective, let's take a look at one of the more successful seed saving organizations - Seed Savers Exchange in Decorah, Iowa. Their catalog has a lot of different heirloom and open-pollinated varieties. They also have a member's catalog.

Seed Savers Exchange Yearbook, an encyclopedic volume which, in 2013 offers 12,495 unique varieties (and 19,888 total listings) to members from members, making it one of the greatest sources of heirloom varieties in the world. The yearbook is a meeting place where gardeners share what they have grown, and learn from others with similar interests. It is mailed in late January.

Consider this - if Monsanto wins this lawsuit, then every additional crop that gets a GM variety will effectively shut down part of this catalog, and take out an age-old means of selecting and spreading new and improved varieties of seed.

Here's another implication. There is an article listed on the Seed Saver's home page entitled "Seed Savers Exchange Ships Two More Crates to the Svalbard Global Seed Vault" . This also will be shut down, made irrelevant or useless, if this lawsuit goes the wrong way.

“As one of 1400 seed banks in the world, Seed Savers Exchange is proud to deposit an additional 366 varieties in the Svalbard Global Seed Bank in Norway, bringing our total deposits to more than 2,000 varieties. The global seed bank, with 725,000 total deposits, represents man’s best efforts to ensure that today’s seed varieties are available for future generations.” – John Torgimson, Seed Savers Exchange president.

I make no bones about Monsanto being evil. They make Microsoft, Oracle and tSCOg look angelic. None of those last companies kill people. But they all want the economy to be reshaped to suit their own desires. As we say around here, "Get a job!"

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Help protect viruses and worms please...
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, February 19 2013 @ 01:31 AM EST
"Silly, i know... But: is not that the same as what Monsanto
is attempting to do? Sue anyone who even accidentally gets
his/her field infected with modified soy beans...."
Sorry, but no. In the cases I've looked at the farmers want to accidently infect
their fields so they don't have to buy directly from Monsanto.


As another analogy of the computer situation: Should not a
farmer be able to sue Monsanto for infecting his/her field
with tainted soy beans?
Last I heard if a framer came and complained to Monsanto, Monsanto would help
them clean up the contamination.

MosueTheLuckyDog

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