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It is standard policy
Authored by: KayZee on Sunday, February 03 2013 @ 04:12 PM EST
From the article

“Works created by employees and/or students specifically for
use by the Prince George’s County Public Schools or a
specific school or department within PGCPS, are properties
of the Board of Education even if created on the employee’s
or student’s time and with the use of their materials,” the
policy reads."

So "all your base are belong to us."

I certainly do not recall when enrolling in
grade/middle/high school that I or my parents signed away
all right to work I created. Have times changed that much?

Is it standard for that end table from wood shop to belong
to the school? Is it standard for my college entrance
essays, written on my own time, own resources, to belong to
my high school? I don't think even Facebook goes as far as
saying anything you post to your wall belongs to Facebook.
Sure you give Facebook permission to use it, but don't give
up your copyright. Didn't Instagram just have a big dust up
over trying to claim ownership?

Why should your school system have copyright ownership over
your homework or other creations?

The article even quotes legal scholars saying this policy
goes too far.

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"nothing new or controversial"
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, February 03 2013 @ 05:10 PM EST
It sure is controversial and immoral. It is seems like an attempt to legalize
theft to me. In Germany copyright always remains with the originator and cannot
be signed away

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It is standard policy
Authored by: tknarr on Monday, February 04 2013 @ 01:16 PM EST

I think there'd be some question, because the students aren't being paid to create the work. Quite the contrary, it's the other way around: the students are the ones paying the school. I'd think the school would be on shaky ground when it comes to such a contract. Where's the consideration for the copyrights? Not the education, the students are already paying their tuition and fees to get that. I'd think the school would have a hard time arguing that there's a valid agreement when the students give up copyrights and get nothing in return that they weren't already paying for independently of the copyrights.

Work for hire? That normally goes within an employer/employee context, and I really don't think the school wants to go there. If students are employes then the school's required by law to pay them minimum wage for the time they're there, withhold taxes, pay the employer's share of SSI, pay unemployment and other taxes, the list goes on. And if the students aren't employees, then the rules about the written agreements are even more stringent than they are otherwise. IIRC the agreement specifically has to be for each work, the way the law's worded excludes a blanket agreement on everything.

And if proposed 3-strikes laws are actually put into effect, what then? All it takes is one annoyed parent who's also a lawyer and the district could be facing 3 accusations of copyright infringement and a lawyer arguing that the law says right there that the infringer's Internet access must be cut off after the third strike. And if you don't think some parent in any district wouldn't be that much of a jerk, I direct you to the behavior of parties and counsel in numerous lawsuits of late.

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