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The inevitability of choosing all possible paths | 661 comments | Create New Account
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How does that differ from creation?
Authored by: OpenSourceFTW on Monday, April 01 2013 @ 12:57 AM EDT
The only difference is that a creationist assumes a supernatual source of the
activity.

An evolutionist generally does not.

The resulting theory of choice follows from the above.

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The inevitability of choosing all possible paths
Authored by: symbolset on Monday, April 01 2013 @ 01:08 AM EDT

At any instant along the temporal line the "now" of a theory that has divergents choosing all possible paths finds the extant survivors the right fit for the extant environment in hindsight, and the lost lines the dross. Mining the tailings of that dross may find some useful bits. As the environment is inevitably dynamic the challenge to survive is continually renewed and today's winner may not rest on his laurels or he will find himself a footnote amongst the dinosaurs. Claiming victory is as moot as building a castle of straw, as immortal time eventually moots all.

Or, as Shelly said it:


Ozymanidias

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desart. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
- Percy Brysshe Shelley, 1818.

Humans have won a brief spot for now at the top of Earth's food chain having claimed it for some 10,000 years and we're now full of ourselves with our physics and science, math and art. We imagine we can see the first moments of the Big Bang, and theorize about its first femtoseconds. In the fullness of time our history is a fraction of one tick on the clock, not even one full Earth heartbeat. It happened in a temporary thermal anomaly called the Holocene epoch that is not the Earth's normal condition and is soon to end, the end of which our culture cannot hope to survive. Let us not claim victory until we have lived as long as the reign of the dinosaurs (135 million years), or at least have achieved a stable multi-planetary persistent presence that could survive the type of event that killed the dinosaurs and allowed us to exist at all.

Funny thing: the same evolution happened 100,000 years ago. And 200,000, and 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 800,000 years ago, for 5,000-25,000 years each time. It's a regular pattern thing having to do with the Earth's orbit and inclination, the periodicity of the output of our sun for as long as our ancestors could even generally be considered "Man". We don't know anything about those lost cultures except that no matter what they achieved glaciers swept the evidence of their achievements into the sea. They were pulverized, oxidized and eaten by the fishes as, if we don't transcend our limitations, all evidence of us will be. 100,000 years is a long time to destroy the evidence of what we were.

It would be nice if this one time we figured a way to avoid that. It seems to me that Nature, Evolution, God, Climate or whatever other symbol you prefer for this seems to be seeking a life form that can achieve that. Maybe there I'm projecting an objective goal onto what I want to be on a dispassionate and uncaring universe - I'm cognisant of that. I think we can do it. I'm not sure we will. If we don't, I believe ?Gaia? will try again, or the uncaring wheel of orbital dynamics will bring the potential around again if you prefer. I'm not sure of eventual success of an intelligent terrestrial species that can surmount climate and ELE events if we don't make it this time because I think we're pretty special. I may be biased in this regard. I'd like us to win.

/in short: If we can find a way to survive and / or prevent a glacial era, an ELE-level asteroid or comet impact, and a nearby supernova then God / Gaia / Science / evolution loves us. Otherwise no, we were just an alpha test and we failed - we were not worthy.

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