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Corrections Thread
Authored by: artp on Monday, January 14 2013 @ 01:34 PM EST
Help! I can't type, and I can't get up!

"Eror" -> "Error" in the Title Block, please.

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Userfriendly on WGA server outage:
When you're chained to an oar you don't think you should go down when the galley
sinks ?

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Off Topic Thread
Authored by: artp on Monday, January 14 2013 @ 01:36 PM EST
For those people who can't stay on to... What did you say?

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News Picks Thread
Authored by: artp on Monday, January 14 2013 @ 01:38 PM EST
URL, please.

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Userfriendly on WGA server outage:
When you're chained to an oar you don't think you should go down when the galley
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Comes Goes Heres
Authored by: artp on Monday, January 14 2013 @ 01:40 PM EST
See the link above for "Comes v. MS".

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Userfriendly on WGA server outage:
When you're chained to an oar you don't think you should go down when the galley
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New Low's
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, January 14 2013 @ 03:02 PM EST
Pretty Sad at how Much lower Apple seems to find a way to stoop to when you
think they reached the lowest possible spot already. They dig the hole a bit
more deeper.

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Unhelpful analysis
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, January 14 2013 @ 04:05 PM EST
For all the popularity it will entail, I am going to note
that a lot of the extra commentary included with the
analysis in the OP is unhelpful, serves to obfuscate issues,
and leads to people in these comments not understanding the
issues. To the extent that groklaw tries to bridge the gap
between the tech and legal audience, it doesn't help.

What do I mean (specifically). For example, "Are there any
patents in this world that are worth such amounts, let along
Apple's 'rectangle with rounded corners' nonsense patents?"
This one sentence (variants of which have been seen in
various posts) does so much!

First, it puts all of the patents asserted at the level of
"rectangle[s] with rounded corners[.]" Maybe you think that
all of the patents asserted are ridiculous, but choosing the
one that you think is most inflammatory as the baseline
obfuscates, as opposed to illuminates.

Second, the preceding paragraph delineates the difference
between the asked-for price for Samsung's SEP patents
(FRAND) and Apple's patents. While I know that many of the
individuals here place a high premium on SEP patents, that
two are not perfectly comparable; one cannot make a clear
comparison between a SEP (encumbered) patent and a non-
encumbered patent; if comparing two patents is like
comparing apples to oranges, then comparing a starting and
contested SEP demand to a patent is like comparing apples to
spacesuits (and, yes, pun intended).

Third, the infamous "rounded recatangle" patent is a design
patent. Sort of like the ol' trade dress (but a little
different, and which was also asserted) and the associated
trademark. Design patents are not the same as the usual
patents for software that most people have so much trouble
with. If people want to research on how cases have examines
design patents, trademark, and trade dress in the context of
a less controversial field, I suggest looking at decisions
involving bottles (often alcohol) where one can assert that
"there's only so many ways to make a bottle", yet successful
actions have been maintained by companies for a particular
expression of their design associated with their beverage.
Put in more regular terms- Absolut spends a lot of money
making sure you know what their bottle looks like.

None of this has to do with the merits of the case, or even
of the validity of the particular design patent asserted
(that becomes a factual claim, and I don't know enough about
it).

Anyway, most of this is likely to be decided by the Fed.
Cir. anyway. I have a feeling that Judge Koh has had enough
of *both* parties in this litigation.

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The real danger for the Merchant of Fruit
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, January 14 2013 @ 04:38 PM EST

All those lies about supposed losses because of competition (because that is what they fear the most) probably have their roots in the following: Is Apple's iPhone No Longer Cool To Teens?

“Teens are telling us Apple is done,” says Tina Wells of the youth marketing agency Buzz Marketing Group. “Apple has done a great job of embracing Gen X and older [Millennials], but I don’t think they are connecting with Millennial kids. [They’re] all about Surface tablets/laptops and Galaxy.”

So they follow the decades old mantra of "if you can't beat them, sue them". Now that those lawsuits are going the way of the Dodo as well I'd reckon this fruit is cooked (pun intended).

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Apple cutting orders for iPhone 5
Authored by: N_au on Monday, January 14 2013 @ 06:28 PM EST
This headline has appeared on 2 online news sites in Australia. Both say that
Apple has cut their order for screens in half because of "due to
weaker-than-expected demand".
So their holy war against Android is having an effect, but not the way they had
hoped.

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