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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 09 2013 @ 11:34 AM EST |
As far as I understand it "corperate personhood" was a legal hack that
should have been properly fixed 100 years ago (25 years after you state it
began, I have no idea how old it is and am only going off your number there).
You don't really want to leave quick hacks lying in production code, now do you?[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 09 2013 @ 02:14 PM EST |
If a scheme like this were to succeed there is a large probability it would end
up doing more harm than good.
This is so true. Remember, it's not just "corporations" that are
"incorporated". Churches incorporate to be able to buy land, take out
mortgages, build chapels/cathedrals/bingo halls, issue W-2 forms to
ministers/musical performers/janitors, etc.
Private schools and colleges incorporate. Red Cross and other charities
incorporate. Professional associations incorporate (you may doubt the value of
some trade guilds like the Teamsters or RIAA, but I'm not ashamed of ACM
membership!)
And political parties incorporate.
This legal fiction is the mechanism by which groups of people acting together
according to the fundamental human right called "freedom of
association".
It is not true that the first thing a dictator does is collect all the guns. The
first thing is eliminate all free associations--nationalize the corporations
certainly, but also establish a state church, politicize the trade unions, etc.
It doesn't matter whether he calls himself "left-wing" or
"right-wing". Hitler and Mao both moved quickly to establish some
churches and suppress others; you can see the same thing happening in Egypt at
this very moment.
Sure, the guns may be collected later, when there are no organizations capable
of coordinating the armed resisters. But humans are social creatures, and
freedom of association is arguably the root of all other freedoms.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 09 2013 @ 02:58 PM EST |
"However, most of the people currently trying to attack corporate
personhood with schemes like this and the people cheering them on have no
understanding of the 125 years of history behind it, why it was done in the
first place or what really causes the problems."
Unfortunately, what was a good idea 125 years ago has become hopelessly
corrupted. Like patents, that had a good intent originally, but which today are
almost 180 degrees from the intent.
The whys you speak of, such as buying land, entering into contracts, etc, are
all essential day to day functions that persons and businesses alike need to
perform. The current situation where it extends to buying politicians and
entering into cover-ups and collusion is exactly the opposite, specifically to
limit the ability of others to conduct day to day functions.
Needs to be fixed. "Personhood" needs to be explicitly limited to
routine functionality for any entity that is not an actual warm body.
"People" need to be distinct and separate from "corporate
persons"
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