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Charge Signs? You don't appear to be disputing my conclusion
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, January 14 2013 @ 01:40 PM EST

You mean like negative vs positive electrical charge? Or perhaps a 1.5 volt charge vs a 2.0 volt charge? As opposed to electrical charge vs lack of electrical charge?

As you yourself say:

converted to sets of charge signs
Call it a stream1, a set, a grouping, a pattern. It's still interpreted abstract information that has meaning only to the particular "language" it's set in. The concept of interpretation is abstract. The most common and widely used such interpretation being that of Languages.

In both cases of audio cds and software cds the cds have absolutely zero physical difference. They are both made of plastic and such. They are both etched with data in the form of an interpreted physical binary mark.

The only difference is the particular pattern of the interpreted mark3.

    Begining of Audio CD: 100110001011001000001100101
    Begining of SFTWR CD: 100110001011001000001100100
We can describe "Audio" software quite concisely as "an abstract language that is designed to "understand"2 the particular stream/pattern that humans interpret as sound".

Meanwhile, "software" software can be concisely described as "an abstract language that is designed to "understand" the particular stream/pattern that humans interpret as 'machine language'".

In both cases, they are nothing more to humans and computers as the English language is. The standard that defines a particular audio set/pattern/stream/combination is to software as the Rosetta Stone was to the Egyptian Heiroglpyhs.

Given the audio cd does absolutely nothing physically different to the computer that the software cd does: Is digital audio patentable "as applied to the computer"?

Is a book that outlines how to build a cabinet - also contains an interpreted language with instructions that can be followed to produce a particular output - patentable?

Is a sheet of hole-punched paper as applied to a player piano to "play a particular piece of music" patentable?

I think once the Supremes see through all the obfuscation and realize what software really is:

    Nothing more then an interpretive language!
I think the Supremes will likely agree at that point Software - whether applied to a device or not - is not patentable subject matter.


1: That's how I used the particular term stream by the way. Not indicate a "stream of electricity" but the "particular pattern of the interpreted {choose whatever word(s) you want to use to identify the actual physical binary state}".

2: I use the term "understand" in this instance extraordinarily loosely. The hardware "understands" nothing. The humans design the hardware so the human feeding the hardware with input get the same result. 2+2 always equals 4 both from the perspective of the individual designing the calculator and the individual who just punched the calculators keys.

3: Like the pattern of marks that create a mystery novel vs the pattern of marks that are on a book of instructions of how to build a spice rack. It's still the physical aspect of "ink on paper" (or equivalent) with the only change being the abstract human interpretation.

I would find it truly interesting if someone created a duo language. A single "software language" that could:

    Be run to produce mathematical results
AND
    Be run to produce music
I wonder if someone did that and gave a physical demonstration to the Supreme's if the understanding of "software" being nothing more then an interpreted language would click.

What would be even better (I think) is if they modified an input mechanism into the computer to accept the "electric signals" of a telegraph key as input. Then program - live in front of the Supremes - a simple software set which would then be run both as a mathematical formula as well as music.

Maybe program the simple interest formula with inputs. That would allow different values to be fed into the formula for the interest rate and principal. This would both:

    A: produce the correct interest amount
and:
    B: dynamically change the music piece that is played
That'd be pretty cool. Other then the "telegraph key as input" part - it could be totally done with any computer hardware that has a programmable aspect, a display and a sound producing system. That might also help with the understanding:
    Dig out that old Amiga, Apple IIe, 286
    Get a modern day device (whether tablet, pc, or whatever)
And do the same to all of them.

Even more impressive is if someone created a hydrodynamic pipe organ whose components were used to perform the simple interest formula - the sounds of the "music" of said "software" coming from the pipes all the while the particular pattern ended up producing the interest paid.

RAS

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