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You have not pointed to a single physical embodiment of software: Fail! | 364 comments | Create New Account
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An FPGA is what?
Authored by: myNym on Tuesday, January 08 2013 @ 10:27 PM EST
A "Fully Programmable Gate Array".

Programming an FPGA is using it as it is entirely intended.

Programming a CPU is using it as it is entirely intended.

Neither of the above is generating a new piece of hardware.

No part of software is a new piece of hardware.

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You have not pointed to a single physical embodiment of software: Fail!
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 09 2013 @ 12:05 AM EST

NO The challenge was to disprove that ALL software is abstract.
Sorry... that was not the challenge. Let's re-iterate the challenge from the original post:
    Point to a single example of the physical existence of Software!
You can try and claim a rewording of the challenge all you want but the challenge is right there for all to see. I never once said to disprove all software is abstract. I said to provide a single piece of evidence showing the physical embodiment of software. I did say that if you couldn't point to a single physical embodiment of software, then you can not prove software is anything but abstract. That's a logical conclusion drawn from the fact that you fail to provide a single physical embodiment.
I have proven that some software is physical.
No, actually. You haven't. You've stated the following facts (my words) which are not in dispute:
    CPU is physical
    FPGA is physical
    HDL (hardware description language) is abstract
    HD Language can be embodied in software
And then you tied them together with a logical fallacy hinted at in your words:
    HDL can model the FPGA, this is a concrete process, therefore HDL is physical
Why is it a logical fallacy? Just because you can model the physical with the abstract, and the modeling is incredibly useful, doesn't somehow turn the abstract into the physical.

An electrical engineer can draw the FPGA with pencil and paper. They can even duplicate the pattern of expected behavior via numerous abstract methods such as mental tracing of the diagram. That doesn't somehow turn the picture and mental tracing into a physical FPGA component.

Sorry - you've failed.

RAS

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I should add: you have proved the converse of the challenge
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 09 2013 @ 12:32 AM EST

You did prove with your example that the CPU/FPGA could be modeled in HDL which means:

    The physical can be embodied in the abstract!
Not all physical of course. One still can't display a steaming cup of coffee on the monitor and then proceed to drink it.

RAS

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