decoration decoration
Stories

GROKLAW
When you want to know more...
decoration
For layout only
Home
Archives
Site Map
Search
About Groklaw
Awards
Legal Research
Timelines
ApplevSamsung
ApplevSamsung p.2
ArchiveExplorer
Autozone
Bilski
Cases
Cast: Lawyers
Comes v. MS
Contracts/Documents
Courts
DRM
Gordon v MS
GPL
Grokdoc
HTML How To
IPI v RH
IV v. Google
Legal Docs
Lodsys
MS Litigations
MSvB&N
News Picks
Novell v. MS
Novell-MS Deal
ODF/OOXML
OOXML Appeals
OraclevGoogle
Patents
ProjectMonterey
Psystar
Quote Database
Red Hat v SCO
Salus Book
SCEA v Hotz
SCO Appeals
SCO Bankruptcy
SCO Financials
SCO Overview
SCO v IBM
SCO v Novell
SCO:Soup2Nuts
SCOsource
Sean Daly
Software Patents
Switch to Linux
Transcripts
Unix Books

Gear

Groklaw Gear

Click here to send an email to the editor of this weblog.


You won't find me on Facebook


Donate

Donate Paypal


No Legal Advice

The information on Groklaw is not intended to constitute legal advice. While Mark is a lawyer and he has asked other lawyers and law students to contribute articles, all of these articles are offered to help educate, not to provide specific legal advice. They are not your lawyers.

Here's Groklaw's comments policy.


What's New

STORIES
No new stories

COMMENTS last 48 hrs
No new comments


Sponsors

Hosting:
hosted by ibiblio

On servers donated to ibiblio by AMD.

Webmaster
Koh vs. Federal Circuit | 337 comments | Create New Account
Comments belong to whoever posts them. Please notify us of inappropriate comments.
Koh vs. Federal Circuit
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, December 27 2012 @ 02:59 PM EST
I don't agree on whose part the misunderstanding lies. Judge Koh
let this case drift into a sea of misunderstanding (see posts above
Koh vs. Alsup). eg. after painfully identifying exactly which three
models were NOT sold in the US,
---
MR. ZELLER: And then the third one is the Galaxy S II i9100.
THE COURT: And that's Roman Numeral II?
MR. ZELLER: Yeah, small -- it's Galaxy S II, Roman Numeral II, then a small
i9100.
THE COURT: Okay. So the -- it's small -- it's lower case Roman Numeral I.
MR. ZELLER: Correct.
THE COURT: Two of them, and then i9100?
MR. ZELLER: Correct.
THE COURT: Okay.
---
take a look at the Judge's notes and see if she hasn't written
Galaxy S ii

OK that's a nitpick, but the courts are supposed to be about getting these
things right. And regardless of what FRCP allows Judge Koh has
"I never have briefing on Rule 50, never. Never, ever.
I've never had briefing on Rule 50 before."
so they couldn't give it to her in writing to avoid misunderstanding.

Then they have to settle which of three Samsung companies is
responsible for these three models. The Rule 50 motion is denied
for the non-US company for devices not sold in the US.
Now its my turn to not understand.

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

Koh vs. Federal Circuit
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, December 27 2012 @ 04:07 PM EST
A misunderstanding on the lawyer's part? It doesn't seem so from the transcript
that is here. The judge keeps saying that she disagrees that actual deception
of consumers is required, even though he is not saying that it is. This looks
like the prior episode that was reported on where she kept saying that another
Samsung lawyer was arguing something he wasn't.

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

Groklaw © Copyright 2003-2013 Pamela Jones.
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective owners.
Comments are owned by the individual posters.

PJ's articles are licensed under a Creative Commons License. ( Details )