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"All the statistics show"
Authored by: kuroshima on Friday, December 28 2012 @ 09:07 AM EST
Disclaimer: I am a pacifist, who would not own a gun for any
reason. I also live in a place with heavy gun control laws.

One must wonder why violent crimes, specially lethal violent
crimes, are much higher in the US than in Europe. I am
speaking in population normalized terms by the way. It can
not be that higher population density leads to more
interpersonal conflicts, because here in Europe we have much
higher population densities. It can't be because of
immigration, because here we have less stringent immigration
laws. We too have neighbours that are much less rich, so it
can't be that either.

My opinion is that it's in part cultural, in that EU
citizens have a much greater confidence in the authorities
role as keepers of the peace, a division so are less likely
to want to take justice in their own hands. They are less
likely to be armed, and so crooks don't have to escalate to
violent lethal assault, as that would greatly increase their
sentences were they to be caught. In an indirect way, having
an armed population thus leads to more violent crimes. Of
course that is only my belief belief as I have no scientific
proof.

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

    "All the statistics show"
    Authored by: myNym on Friday, December 28 2012 @ 10:40 AM EST
    Please show us those debunkings you speak of.

    Yes, in some countries where guns are highly controlled,
    homicide by gun rates are lower.

    But in some of those countries homicide by knife rates are
    higher.

    How is it possible that the degree of gun control is
    affecting knife crime? How do you explain the 7% increase
    in homicides in Canada in 2011 that were because of
    increased knife homicides?

    Please show how having basically disarmed the law abiding in
    these following cities has reduced the death rates there:

    Detroit
    Chicago
    NYC
    Washington DC

    (Everybody here who has a concealed carry permit in one of
    those cities, please raise your hand.)

    I don't live in any of those, but I do live in a large
    enough city that there are areas where the police are
    reluctant to go.

    It's not the guns of the law abiding that is the problem
    there.

    It's the guns that are already illegal there.

    How is that helping?

    You've been lied to. Just as SCO lied, you've been fed a
    pack of lies. And perhaps, you want to believe them.

    [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

    "Guns kill people"
    Authored by: myNym on Friday, December 28 2012 @ 10:54 AM EST
    Well my guns must be malfunctioning then, because they seem
    to have utterly failed to accomplish their purported design
    goal.

    But wait, they have done an admirable job of punching holes
    in paper, breaking clay targets, and one has thoroughly
    destroyed some retired bowling pins.

    So guns kill people do they? How many people are killed
    each year by pillow? Lamp chord? Hands, fists, and feet?

    Hands, fists, and feet factor into roughly 6% of murders
    annually, across the globe.

    Were hands, fists, and feet "designed to kill"? Truth is,
    they have demonstrated an amazing ability to do so.

    Oops, no wait. It wasn't the hands, fists, and feet. After
    all, they did not act independently of the brain, did they.

    Was the brain designed to kill?

    Actually, yes. The brain directs each and every one of us
    to kill daily. Even pure vegans kill vegetables.

    So yes, the brain was "designed" to kill. It's in our DNA.

    [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

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