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Facts only please

Authored by: celtic_hackr on Sunday, December 23 2012 @ 01:20 PM EST

I have to call you out on this.

1) An order of magnitude means a power of 10. This would be true if and only if
you mean by countries, Japan.

2) Families with guns are 4.5 times more likely to be shot than families without
them. Not 3 times.

3) How a person commits suicide is really irrelevant to gun possession. What
difference does it make if they do it with a gun, a knife, a razor, drug
combinations, or other means?

4) Your statistic of "1000 times more likely" is so incredulous, I
won't even comment.

That said. I know lots of people with guns and none of them have been injured by
guns over the past 21 years I've known them. But that isn't statistically
significant number of people. Of course, it could be that once you include more
people, including people who probably should be trusted with sharp objects, that
changes. Maybe we hear about those 4.5 tomes more likely due to

[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]

Facts only please - Authored by: Charles888 on Sunday, December 23 2012 @ 02:52 PM EST
- Facts only please - Authored by: myNym on Sunday, December 23 2012 @ 05:31 PM EST
  - Facts only please - Authored by: Charles888 on Sunday, December 23 2012 @ 08:24 PM EST
    - Facts only please - Authored by: myNym on Sunday, December 23 2012 @ 09:09 PM EST
      - No need for an amendment... - Authored by: Charles888 on Monday, December 24 2012 @ 01:19 AM EST
        The weapons you list are all heavily regulated. - Authored by: myNym on Monday, December 24 2012 @ 01:32 AM EST
        Why would I need an amendment to regulate any kind of weapon then? - Authored by: Charles888 on Monday, December 24 2012 @ 01:41 AM EST
        Why would I need an amendment to regulate any kind of weapon then? - Authored by: myNym on Monday, December 24 2012 @ 01:48 AM EST
        The 2nd amendment does not supplant the Preamble! - Authored by: Charles888 on Monday, December 24 2012 @ 02:06 AM EST
        The 2nd amendment enumerates a pre-existing right - Authored by: myNym on Monday, December 24 2012 @ 02:12 AM EST
        You don't want to plainly say it because you know your position on 2nd is extreme. - Authored by: Charles888 on Monday, December 24 2012 @ 02:35 AM EST
        Nuclear weapons are a strawman - Authored by: myNym on Monday, December 24 2012 @ 02:48 AM EST
        So what? But you are right on Treaty. - Authored by: Charles888 on Monday, December 24 2012 @ 09:34 AM EST
        PS - re-read the 2nd - Authored by: myNym on Monday, December 24 2012 @ 02:54 AM EST
Calling for help - Authored by: jjs on Sunday, December 23 2012 @ 03:54 PM EST
- Calling for help - Authored by: myNym on Sunday, December 23 2012 @ 05:16 PM EST
  - The advent of gun control started since confederation - Authored by: Charles888 on Sunday, December 23 2012 @ 08:40 PM EST
    - I'll try to get you a better citation, but you can start here: - Authored by: myNym on Sunday, December 23 2012 @ 09:35 PM EST
      - Try finding data on suicide ATTEMPTS per type vs suicide SUCCESSES - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, December 24 2012 @ 02:02 PM EST
        Try finding data on suicide ATTEMPTS per type vs suicide SUCCESSES - Authored by: myNym on Monday, December 24 2012 @ 02:17 PM EST
        Suicide statistics as they relate to public policy - Authored by: Charles888 on Tuesday, December 25 2012 @ 01:15 PM EST
        Suicide statistics as they relate to public policy - Authored by: myNym on Thursday, December 27 2012 @ 08:19 PM EST
Facts only please - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 26 2012 @ 04:18 PM EST
- He said "order of magnitude" - Authored by: myNym on Wednesday, December 26 2012 @ 04:36 PM EST

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