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| Authored by: Charles888 on Sunday, December 23 2012 @ 02:52 PM EST |
1) This is exactly what I meant -
an order of magnitude higher than a
comparable western society, which is
the best proxy for the setup in the
US.
2) My memory is reading 3 tunes, but
if you say 4.5 tunes, I buy it -
same neighborhood. I wrote my
comment drawing on memory.
In another post a referenced
Australia's ~18 year experience
before and after, and then read that
it was 18 mass shouting in 16 years
before, and none in the 16 years
since. Sure, i was off by 2 years,
but it does not change the
conclusion.
3) How a person commits suicide is
ABSOLUTELY relevant to gun
possession. If we are talking about
public policy, these numbers matter.
If you can draw a straight line
between owning guns and committing
suicide (absent other factors), that
means that owning guns on itself are
negative factors to public
health/safety.
4) What is so incredulous about it?
How often is anybody attacked at
home and successfully uses a gun to
defend themselves? vs. those who
accidentally (or lose it in an
argument) shoot a family member.
As to the ton of people that you
know, neither you more I know enough
people to draw any statistically
significant conclusion. We only
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| Authored by: jjs on Sunday, December 23 2012 @ 03:54 PM EST |
"3) How a person commits suicide is really irrelevant to gun possession.
What difference does it make if they do it with a gun, a knife, a razor, drug
combinations, or other means?"
It matters greatly. Many who attempt suicide are calling for help. Many of the
other forms of suicide (especially drugs) take time, and give the person a
chance of successfully calling for help. Gun suicides don't have that option.
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(Note IANAL, I don't play one on TV, etc, consult a practicing attorney, etc,
etc)
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 26 2012 @ 04:18 PM EST |
not what i learned about magnitude... refer to the richter scale, star
brightness or loudness. it depends what you're measuring.
i thought better of you.
my own personal thoughts are that people with guns should be tested regularly
for competence.
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