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Judge Koh was right, unfortunately | 302 comments | Create New Account
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Judge Koh had how many "admissions"?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 18 2012 @ 01:41 PM EST
AFAIK Judge Koh had no admission by the jury foreman of any
misconduct. The lay press has been full of it, but that's hearsay.
Hogan didn't volunteer any declaration to the court, and Groklaw
is unlikely to have blinked and missed it.

Judge Koh has several times told counsel for the parties to
reduce their submissions. I suspect she wouldn't want to increase
the caseload, or force a retrial by hauling in jurors for bawling out.
Down that path lies madness.

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Judge Koh Rules - No Injunction for Apple; No New Trial on Jury Misconduct for Samsung ~ pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 18 2012 @ 03:09 PM EST
It's interesting that rule 606's exceptions are exactly the
issues Samsung was raising.

(A) extraneous prejudicial information was improperly
brought to the jury’s attention;
(B) an outside influence was improperly brought to bear on
any juror; or
(C) a mistake was made in entering the verdict on the
verdict form.

She gets around it, barely, but it seems clear that the
motivation is closure so the whole game can move on to
appeal. It's certainly not the most wrong thing she's
written, but it's fairly weakly supported.

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Let the Appeals Court to decide
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 18 2012 @ 03:11 PM EST

Her reaction and unwillingness in the last hearing on this now makes a lot more sense. But the reasoning is somewhat typical as the evidence is essentially hearsay and jury decisions are treated with the highest respect. Of course, she could address that by recalling the jury (if possible) and asking under oath but that would be extra work. Rather let the Appeals Court decide since she knows that this case is going there and it is far better for the legal system that Appeals Court overrules her on this decision than the overruling her if she had rejected the jury decision.

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Judge Koh was right, unfortunately
Authored by: soronlin on Thursday, December 20 2012 @ 11:46 AM EST
I didn't bother reading the Apple stuff. But I have to grudgingly agree with her
reading of the Samsung motion. I'm horrified that the expectations on council
for researching jurors are so high, but if they are then Samsung should have
researched. The extraneous evidence was always going to be hard to argue with so
few precedents, and so close to the fine line between introducing evidence and
utilising experience. IANAL, but I follow her argument and I can't fault it.

On the whole, if it is that close, then she probably decided correctly. As
someone else said, better to side with her jury and be overturned, than to
overturn them and be overturned on appeal.

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